https://www.duolingo.com/PabloEscribir

Old skill strengthened from completing new lesson

Haven't seen this posted, so figured I'd report it.

I recently completed the 2nd lesson in the "Present Perfect" tense for Spanish. After finishing the lesson, "Countries" was strengthened (I had completed countries already, but it needed strengthening). This bug occurred on the desktop version.

April 14, 2015

7 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/JeffA2

I don't think it's a bug. What happened is that in doing the new lesson, you also revisited some of the decayed word that were causing "Countries" to be decayed. You'll often find that later lessons help strengthen parts of earlier lessons.

April 14, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/tu.8zPhLD72zzoZN

That is right. This is not a bug. There was even a post suggesting people work their way backwards when strenghtening lessons to take advantage of this.

April 14, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/PabloEscribir

I'm nearly 100% positive I didn't encounter a single country name in that entire lesson. But this doesn't seem right. Why do I have to go back and strengthen present verbs then if nearly every lesson has verbs?

April 14, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/JeffA2

The thing to understand is that the whole gold/decay mechanism is based not on skills, but on words. Each lesson introduces a certain number of new words. Each word has a strength associated with it -- Duo's estimate of how well you know that word. When you use a word correctly in a question, the strength increases. When you use it wrong, it decreases. Also the strength decreases over time.

When the average strength of the words in a particular skill goes below 80%, then that skill decays and is no longer gold. The algorithm isn't really measuring your general knowledge of "verbs" or "present tense" or "countries." It is simply a measurement of your knowledge of the words that happened to be introduced during that lesson.

It can lead to some counterintuitive behavior, but mostly works fine. I suggest not worrying too much about the algorithm and just continue on.

April 14, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/PabloEscribir

Fair enough. I mostly just wanted to bring attention to it, but if it's not even an issue, then no worries

April 14, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/hrickh

I posted the same thing about a week ago here for the Turkish course (the search function here on the forum sucks, IMO).

I was told it is normal Duolingo behaviour.

For what it's worth, the gilded, unlrelated skill turned back to blue within hours, so I don't think it matters all that much in the grand scheme of things.

April 14, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/PabloEscribir

Yea, I figure I can just do the course on my own anyway if I feel the need, so not a huge deal

April 14, 2015
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