https://www.duolingo.com/letter_s

"Stop the clutter" Does this warning make anyone else wary about posting questions?

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Whenever I have a question about an answer I usually go to the comments. Now I am met by this statement. " Stop the clutter. Please do not report mistakes here and read the comments below before posting" I feel that this is the way I learn here and we are basically not being encouraged to ask about our mistakes. Many people may be nervous about posting. How do you feel? Does this warning comment prevent you from asking a question?

9/14/2013, 10:47:32 PM

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https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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No, I think it's great they put this message back.

No reason to be nervous, the message just asks to not report error here.
You can ask questions, all the questions you want (that haven't already been answered in the actual discussion), ask if what you think to be an error is really one before reporting it (best thing to do ;)), ask for precisions about something already asked but that you still don't understand perfectly (or at all) etc...

The main reason, IMO, for this message is to avoid having reports in the sentence discussion pages, because it's not the place for them but most of all, I believe, because by using the Report a Problem button (or the Support button) it'll contact Duolingo Team directly, when a report-post in a sentence discussion page could be not seen by Duolingo...

9/14/2013, 10:59:33 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Daniel-in-BC

I have seen literally more than 100 comments on a discussion page and many times the same question is repeated over and over again. A helpful person answered the question earlier, but still people ask. All DL is asking is that you first read the comments to see if your question has already been answered.

I just wish there were a way to consolidate in those situations because I just give up scrolling at some point.

9/15/2013, 4:46:06 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Hohenems
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Moderators delete redundancy and inane comments when they come across them. 100 comments on a page suggests that a moderator just hasn't been there yet.

9/23/2013, 10:00:05 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Evan.Tracy

Nowadays, there are pages with over 600 comments on them... There are hundreds just in the Spanish to English course that have over 200 comments on them. I wish people had actually obeyed this order to stop clutter.

4/18/2018, 7:58:29 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/pont
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No. The warning says (1) don't report mistakes here and (2) read the comments before posting. Nowhere does it tell you not to post a comment.

I regard this warning as a service to new, nervous users. Consider the scenarios:

(1) Warning retained. New user sees warning, reads existing comments, and finds that their question is answered -- goes back to lesson, or posts a useful addition to the answer. All is sweetness and light.

(2) Warning removed. New user dives in and posts a comment without reading the discussion, repeating a question which has already been asked 29 times on same forum. New user gets five angry replies from cranky users telling them to read the discussion first, is taken aback by this aggressive response, feels that DL users are a mean and unfriendly bunch. "How was I meant to know I had to read the discussion first?" Runs away to Memrise, is never seen again.

I prefer scenario (1). Similar scenarios exist for the "don't report mistakes here" injunction.

9/15/2013, 6:21:16 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

If you read the comments first you may not need to ask a question.

9/14/2013, 10:49:11 PM

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Yes, that's true and I usually do. But the comments are where I find the most information here. People are very helpful. I am just hoping that this does not prevent people from asking questions.

9/14/2013, 10:51:33 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnatan
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No, not really. A lot of people used to post "Such-and-such should be accepted as a correct answer! Why isn't it?" and then there would be many people telling them to report the mistake. Hopefully it encourages people to report the mistake where Duo staff can see it and not complain in the comments. If someone has a grammatical question, it's perfectly fine to ask about it and a lot of people do.

9/14/2013, 10:58:08 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Viaggiatore

I hope it doesn't discourage questions, but there is a lot of repetition.

9/14/2013, 10:50:41 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/letter_s
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Thanks for your comments. I for one have felt that this was not encouraging questions. I suppose that people who are not inclined to comment will not make a comment here. I do hope they ask questions as many things are explained there. To tell the truth, when I first saw this admonition, I did feel like going elsewhere, where it was more welcoming. But I want to learn and need to ask questions, so I will continue to do so and I hope others will.

9/15/2013, 6:54:27 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/_Klaus

Duolingo should have an attached forum where people can relax and chat. Ideally, Duolingo would provide free coffee and fried owls.

4/26/2014, 5:38:55 PM
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