"Wir mögen Sie."

Translation:We like you.

December 22, 2012

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ausputzer

i've got some emails about my comment and i hope i can clear it up with this post what i meant:

the problem with this "Wir mögen Sie" is, that in Germany you use a respectful personal styling for unfamiliar persons in documents. That means if you would write in a letter "wir mögen Sie" the "Sie" with a capital "S" means you address the "wir mögen (we like ...) directly to this single unfamiliar person, because the "Sie" is directed only for this person alone. But if you write in a letter "wir mögen sie .." the "sie" with a lower case "s" means you address a group of persons.

A quick example like a business email could look like this: "Sehr geehrter Herr XXX, ich möchte Sie gerne sehen ... " (Dear Mr. XXX, i would like to see you ... example for address a unfamiliar person in a honorific way"). On the other hand if you would write "..., ich möchte sie gerne sehen" it would mean you would like to see for example a rock band and not a distinctive person. Around the 1900 if you would have address a persona in the common low case style you would have insulted this person, nowadays they don't take it that seriously but still it shows respect and of course that you know what you are doing!

This form of writing is also used by "Du" e.g. "Magst Du mich?" ("do you like me?" familiar Person like a Friend, who you address by his forename) or when a third person is meant with "Er" e.g. "... Du sagst, Er mag mich ... " ("you said he likes me" talking about a third person with your friend in a letter).

So it is important for non native Germans to see the difference right away in the spelling of personal pronouns, if it is meant as singular, plural or even as honorific. That's why i miss by the translations maybe a short hint like "personal conversation" or "business letter", cause even i as German would translate "We like you" as follows "wir mögen dich/sie" with lower case "s" or "d" and i would get a error cause of wrong spelling ... its just confusing without a hint!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/myra

Thanks for this! We are working on better hints and explanations. In the meantime confusing issues like Sie vs Du and Sie vs sie are great topics to discuss here in the comments.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/insomniaxy

I think "mögen" is more like "I like" than "I love". If I want to say "I love" I would use "Ich liebe"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lea-Chou

That makes sense. Thank u~


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Llynnya

If you only hear the sentence it's impossible to know if it's 'you' or 'them'. So if only the sound is played, both should be right.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jdmvcvg

Could this also be construed to be "You like us?" or what is the key to which is the subject in this sentence other than word order


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/insomniaxy

No, it can t be constructed like that. "You like us" would be "Sie mögen uns". Uns - accusative (and dative as well) case of "wir". So you can say "Sie mögen wir" and still it means the same "We like you" (probably when you want to emphasize, that YOU are the one we like) but with this word order it can be understood also as "We like her" or "We like them" - "Sie" is the first word of sentence, thus we don t know if it is "Sie" or "sie" I hope you understand what I`m trying to say:)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jdmvcvg

Yes, I understand, thanks!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jahudam

So then you could say "Uns mögen Sie." And that would be an unusual way to say "You like us." correct?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/insomniaxy

correct. I just don t know how "unusual" it is, because i am not native speaker...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/requin230

It is correct but in an unusual word order. Normally it would be "Sie mögen uns - they like us"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FatAlan

I think you may have clarified something for me there. If you just hear the sentence 'Wir mögen Sie' (i.e you don't know if it's capitalised or not, could it be any of the 3 possibilities i.e. 'We like you (capitalised formal), them (uncapitalised plural) or her (uncapitalised feminine singular accusative)?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ausputzer

i dont know who is handling the German translation from Duolingo, but you guys should maybe consider to explain the German salutation forms before giving anyone a translation task. Cause you mix the formal form of address from Bussiness Letters and such with the normal street conversation and thats really not helping at all! ... i'm native German and i have to think twice


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mfischernhelp

Hi, Why do i say --- Wir mögen Sie --- as --- We like you --- and --- Ich danke Ihnen --- as --- I thank you? Can I say --- Ich danke Sie --- or --- Wir mögen Ihnen? Thanks!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ausputzer

be careful you are mixing right now the cases (nominative/genitive/dative/accusative). In short, no you cant. Correct would be ...

unfamiliar single person - "Ich danke Ihnen"

unfamiliar group of persons - "ich danke ihnen"

familiar single person - "ich danke Dir"

familiar group - "ich danke euch"

unfamiliar single person - "Wir mögen Sie"

unfamiliar group of persons - "Wir mögen sie"

familiar single person - "Wir mögen Dich"

familiar group - "Wir mögen euch"

for more help have a look at ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_pronoun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genitive_case#German

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dative_case#German

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusative_case#German_pronouns


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mfischernhelp

Thank you, Ausputzer! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mustache92

Are there any other ways to say this sentence?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/furrypony

I heard ¨Wen mögen Sie?¨


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HeinrichIV

would "wer mögen Sie" be acceptable as correct? "Wer" sounds like "Wir" although with very different meanings.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mizinamo

No. Wer, like English "who", is considered singular (even if you suspect that the answer may be multiple people), so wer mögen is not possible.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SVLR81

Please get rid of the male voice you are using the pronounciation is confusing


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/greta.kon

Why is is it "Wir mögen Sie" and not "Wir mögen Ihnen"? "Wir mögen dich" is correct and not "Wir mögen du".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/InvertedGo

Certain verbs in German require the direct object to be in dative. Danken is one of them but mögen is not.

That's why it's Wir mögen Sie buy Wir danken Ihnen.

Here's a link: https://www.thoughtco.com/frequently-used-german-dative-verbs-4071410

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