"Más joven, naturalmente."
Translation:Younger, naturally.
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It's part of the grammar, I've learned. If you put "mas" before the word, it's like adding "er".
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Hmm. Not really, more young/old/tall/fat/smart etc etc are all incorrect, younger older taller etc. is correct
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I think what SaulM means is that adding "er" and "more" are both used in the English language. Some words, "young", "smart", etc. require the "er" suffix. Other adjectives only use "more", like "more interesting" or "more intelligent". I can't think of any cases where either or could be used.
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One syllable words get the "-er" suffix. Words with three or more syllables get "more" prefixed. Two syllable words are one or the other. I don't think there are any words where you can choose which form to use.
http://www.ef-australia.com.au/english-resources/english-grammar/comparative-and-superlative/
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Shakespeare and the King James Bible, generally considered the touchstone of modern English, used double comparatives: "This is the most unkindest cut of all" (Julius Caesar), "more nearer" (Hamlet), most straitest (Acts 26:5) &c. The disuse is because of grammarians, like Lyndley Murray and their lower middle class neophytes who didn't wish to sound common. One often notices the petit bourgeois hyper-correction using "I" as an object.
Be proud of the language in all its dialects and form, the brilliance of Burton (The Anatomy of Melancholy) and Burton (Where eagles dare).
Pax
As a native speaker of English, "more young" is most certainly not incorrect. Not the first thing I would say, but it's possible.
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As a native English speaker, I can tell you that "more young" is not correct.
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No, no, no. That's completely wrong. Don't confuse people. Most single syllable adjectives cannot be modified with "more" or "most". For almost all one-syllable adjectives you must add the suffix -er for "more" or -est for "most".
Young can only become "younger" or "youngest". Although there are a few exceptions ("fun" becomes "more fun", not "funner"), "young" is not one of them.
In everyday speech I'd ignore this, but there are people on this site who are also learning English. You should not misinform them.
These are the rules for superlative adjectives: http://www.grammar.com/states-of-adjective-er-or-more-est-or-most/
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We may need to check the validity of your native English speaker title, because it is most certainly NOT correct to use that. It's basic English.
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more young is not correct, being younger is like saying you have less age, imagine: "I have more less food than you" as a comparison
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Native speaker here, as well. "More young" is a less common construction, even an awkward one, but it is not grammatically incorrect. "More fat" is a common English expression....
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You are mistaken. More young is never correct. It may be understood, but it is definitely a strange thing to say.
You may find the rules for superlative adjectives here: http://www.grammar.com/states-of-adjective-er-or-more-est-or-most/
"Young" is not an exception to the single syllable rule.
If a teacher actually spoke like the one in your example, she would need to be replaced. If she's making that mistake, she'll probably pass on other bad information to the kids.
The only adjectives that take 'more' are polysyllabic adjectives, whereas monosyllabic adjs like fat young smart take -er because theyre basically very short.
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I can give an example: suppose a school teacher is talking about boys in her class to a third party and the third party comments about one of them, "Jimmy is smaller and always seems to lag behind the group." She replies, "Well, he's more young than the rest." ---- No native English speaker would find this a strange, awkward, or confusing thing for the school teacher to say in this situation.
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Yep - I lost a heart with the same guess. Until recently, DL seemed to usually want a more literal translation. I suppose guessing what it wants like this is part of the learning experience.
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I would say that it is, Joe. If you don't use the words duolingo is teaching from each section, you've got to study up and go do the lessons.
While I agree with Ryan's explanation, why aren't these guides — and others — provided within the lessons themselves? We're having to either guess or Google.
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A detailed lesson would be nice, but I'm pretty content with learning through trial and error and through peer comments. I never really absorb actual lessons unless I keep failing until I learn the rules. It's like being thrown into a card game that you've never played before. You pick up the rules as you play it.
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I agree with this. The disappointment at getting something wrong drives you to do better. Also the lessons I fly through I forget, the ones I repeat a couple of times stick with me.
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I get frustrated when loosing hearts and having to start over, especially when I'm on the last answer but repetition is the father of learning.
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So I just dropped you off in the middle of latin america. You now will immerse yourself in the language or you will go without what you need. This is an online virtual immersion program. No guides, no dictionaries just tips here and there and your fellow students. This is a good thing and a new way to learn. That's why DL has excellent reputation in doing translations of websites. I hope you embrace it.
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What is wrong with using other resources to help you learn? You should have multiple other pages bookmarked to help you understand what you are learning. No one site is perfect.
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Sounds like you're asking for a guide to English! What is called the comparative for obvious reasons, used to compare TWO things, is made by putting -er on end of a short adjective - thus: bigger, taller, older, younger - maybe with a tiny modification if adjective ends in -Y, so uglier, happier. And put "more" in front, cf más, for longer adjectives - I'd say anything with 3 or more syllables definitely use "more" in fact, off top of my head, even 2 syllables if it it doesn't end in -y eg more perfect.
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I think that's a good sign that you are starting to think in another language and not pausing to translate everything.
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haha, I did this after a month on DL, lost a lot of hearts, but it was good to repeat the lessons.
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Because that would be like saying, "Mucho más joven". As RyanM mentioned above, if you place "más" before "joven", it makes the word "Younger" as opposed to "More young".
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Correction: That makes understanding this much more easy = ... mucho más fácil
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Ok but that's stupid. Why sometimes we have to go for translating literally and other times we go for the "best translation". Duolingo has to have some kind of standard and stick with it throughout the website.
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Don't be silly. Saying that "x is MUCH more y than z" is a damn sight different thab saying "x is more y than z" in both languages.
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As a native speaker (English) I would find "more young" grammatically awkward! Looking around on this I found a rule which makes sense to me: if the adjective is 1 syllable then the comparative should be adjective+er: I.e. young - younger, old - older, but if the adjective is 2 or more syllables then the comparative should use "more + adjective" e.g. respectable - more respectable, beautiful - more beautiful.
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This is usually true, but watch for exceptions. This is English, remember. Everything has exceptions. You can't add -er to 'fun', for instance.
EDIT: I have another counterexample that works the other way. 'Happy', which has two syllables, does take the comparative form 'happier'.
EDIT 2: I think the guideline should just be rephrased to say and 1- or 2-syllable adjectives can usually take the -er comparative.
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I agree with matteo. Younger is the correct comparative to imply more youthful. More young would imply a larger quantity ( e.g. more young people) not a degree of age (she is younger than her sister).
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Younger to indicate maybe a few years. Much younger to indicate more than just a few years. Different generation maybe? That's my two cents from the New Orleans dialect of American English.
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What's wrong with the answer: "naturally younger"? it's the same phrase as younger naturally.
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Actually, not quite. The comma in "younger, naturally" is important. it implies that this might be the answer to someone else's question or comment. Q: "Are you older or younger than your sister?" A: "Younger, naturally" In this answer there is a slight implication that the question should be unnecessary because obviously I look younger. "younger naturally" without the comma sounds like it might be a phrase out of a makeup advertisement --- "Use our makeup and you will look younger naturally" (as if no one will notice the makeup). However, context is everything. Hope this helps.
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Itsmesd, i see the discussion on the diference of the two. Yes the comma here is very important in writing it eitherway. Provided the comma is there, the meaning is the same.
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I learnt menor as younger but now I'm being marked wrong for using it here, can anyone advise please?
Más joven, naturalmente......if it only means younger,naturally...why is the más there?????
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Because the Spanish literally say "more young" they do not have a word for "younger". The más is more.
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Can't imagine a situation or any dialogue where 'Más joven, naturalmente' would be used. Help me to depict what would be going when you say 'younger naturally'!
'Naturally younger' and 'younger naturally' can be interpretated in the same way no?
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Why is it not menor, not mas joven anyway? I wrote menor on this statement before and it counted me wrong!
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that's exactly what my mom said to me when i asked her how she looked after applying botox
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I hate when it says I put the wrong word. No, right word but I spelled it wrong :-( Also, damn accents!
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What is with this ageism? Older is also natural and younger is not superior.
I don't know where to leave feed back so I am going to respond here. I was at 52% fluent and they dropped me down to 40% and I have been really upset and sad. It has affected how I am doing.
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I typed "younger naturally" and i was marked wrong. I've never done the punctuation before and its never held it against me until now.
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Ha, I used "more younger, naturally". Seems like I need to work upon my English before I try my hand at Spanish. Lol
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want to know why santa is the creepiest holiday mascot. because you better watch out, you better no cry you better not scream I'm telling you why santa claus is coming to town. also he sees you when your sleeping he knows when your awake, he knows she you've been bad or good so give up for goodness sake
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I don't see any diference between " younger, naturally" or "naturally, younger". Any reason the second should not be acceptable?
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The word order matters. You could reasonably say either in English, but Duo cares about which comes first.
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"Naturally", as it's written here, means "of course". I think this would make more sense with a longer sentence.
"You look younger, naturally" means the same thing as "Of course you look younger." "You look naturally younger" would mean that you, by nature, look younger.
"very young" is a judgement, not a comparison like 'younger', thus translating the former as 'muy joven'
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I put " Particularly young, naturally." What is the problem with that?
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Crushtone & Alwin, be advised that Duo drop-down GAVE "particularly" as the first option! I only looked at it to LEARN something in case Duo wanted to introduce an idiomatic phrase to substitute for "more young," because the proper English word would be "younger." So, since Duo put "particularly," stupid me, I put it, too, so Duo could laugh & count it WRONG! Yep, I learned something. ...
I disagree that "more young" is ungrammatical in English. "Younger" may be preferred, but it is not required.
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Oh, yes! "more young" is UNgrammatical! "Younger" is not preferred; it's the grammatically correct one.
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There are several things grammatically wrong with the sentence(s?) you just posted, but "more young" is not one of them.
