https://www.duolingo.com/Lenkvist

"Black"

December 22, 2012

40 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Lenkvist

I had only seen one form of noir and I did not know that colours can change form.

December 22, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/SonantSarah

Noir, like other adjectives, has a masculine (noir), feminine (noire), and plural form. The plural can be masculine (noirs) or feminine (noires)

December 23, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/diskonoga

this made my owl cry

December 26, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy

thank you. Now I have a better understanding of the various endings of adjectives

December 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/myleju

thank u for the explanation :D

December 25, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/dianushkapd

Ooooh... I see. Thank you!!

January 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidGerrard

So, is it that the noun being described is feminine? Like would it be "Il a une robe noire" because robe is feminine?

January 5, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy

correct, according to comments on this site.

January 7, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/arronhunt

So... Je a noirs means "I have blacks"?

January 7, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf

No, that sentence does not make sense.

Imagine you are talking about your collection of jeans. You can say "j'en ai un noir" (I have a black one). In plural: "j'en ai des noirs". (In French, "a pair of jeans" = un jean).

Now for feminine words, like "chemise" (shirt): "j'en ai une noire" for singular and "j'en ai des noires" for plural.

January 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/DemiReticent

Clarification: the "en" mentioned in the examples can be roughly translated here as meaning "of them"

J'en ai un noir = I have a black one (of them)

Or in another way (not grammatically correct in english), "I, of them, have a black one"

January 18, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/robsonpierre

Thank you for the explanation \o/

January 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ammunandana

yeah i totally agree with you.

January 12, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/atorresbcs

a little unfair as 'noirs' is plural but it asks for Black not Blacks

December 27, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/JupiterAdept

Don't agree because it is an adjective most of the time. "black apples" --> "pommes noirs" so "black" translates to "noirs" is this case.

January 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf

No, "pommes noirEs"

January 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/JupiterAdept

Right you are!

January 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf

You're right, but adjectives of colours are extremely tricky : as soon as the colour is a fruit (orange), it becomes invariable: "des carottes orange."

December 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy

are you saying that fruit colors are always singular even their object is plural?

December 27, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf

Yes, examples:

Un pantalon marron, des pantalons marron, une robe marron, des robes marron.

December 27, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy

thank you. clears that up

December 29, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/bwna

Mind=Blown

January 14, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/robsonpierre

thanks

January 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Jonassenher

I didn't learn any other forms of noir than noir and noire.

December 26, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/Sean88888

Based on what I've learnt here so far I only know noir and noire

January 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/tiffmfow

It should teach all the forms first- I hadn't seen the plural of black yet so I shouldn't get this wrong!

January 4, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy

I learn from my mistakes as well as from the correct answers. Now you will remember, probably more than if you had guessed and got the answer marked as correct.

January 4, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/slaughter02

unfair

December 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/tok2kayode_Lagos

i understand why it seems unfair. I missed noires too. But I guess getting the answer wrong sometimes is good; helps u to learn.

January 5, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Foffern

Same problem. It was the first time I saw other the thwo other options, so that just had me guessing.. And know I have to do the whole thing all over...

January 8, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ryan159632

Making a mistake, even when it isn't your fault, is a good way to learn. If you get a question wrong because you didn't have all the information necessary, next time you will (hopefully) remember being wrong.

January 9, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/fernandolrm

oh yeah coz im a psychic

January 12, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/fernandolrm

oh yeah coz im a psychic

January 12, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/NomadaJaime

Remember that French, like Spanish (my native language), is a Latin derived language, and in those, adjectives have both gender and number, and must match in gender and number with the noun they go with.

January 14, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Haydee190992

I didn't understand what's the diferent between noir, noire and noires?

January 15, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/1malao33

Noir: masculine, singular Noire: feminine, singular Noirs: masculine, plural Noires: feminine, plural

January 19, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Nostelyma

Noires has not yet been used in the lesson. We've seen noir, and noire, but not noires. How could we know it existed? Nice to see the explanation in a comment, at least.

January 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Nostelyma

Noires has not yet been used in the lesson. We've seen noir, and noire, but not noires. How could we know it existed? Nice to see the explanation in a comment, at least.

January 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf

Duolingo never gives any explanation about grammar and syntax.

When you discover a new word or construction:

  • either you guess (in this case, that according to singular/plural and masculine/feminine words, there are several forms for the same adjective: noir (masc. sing.), noire (fem. sing.), noirs (masc. plur.) and noires (fem. plur.).)

  • or you go to the main "Discussion" page and use the Search feature to check whether somebody else has asked a similar question (which is the case at 99%) and you read the answers already given by other learners.

January 20, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/DinoLee1758

this makes me get away from learning french. i dont want to give up.

January 26, 2013
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