"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Translation:Hoşça kal ve bütün balıklar için teşekkürler.
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I'm hoping there are enough Douglas Adams fans taking this course that we can give this translation 42 up-votes and then leave it there ;-)
"so long" is a way of saying goodbye in English, and So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish is the fourth book of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy trilogy written by Douglas Adams.
Anyway, Why do we put " tesekkurler at the end ??? Why dont we put it after "Hosca kal ve..." ??
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Okur okumaz Otostopçunun Galaksi Rehberini akla getiren cümledir. Buraya eklemeyi iyi düşünmüşsünüz :D
You just gave me a chuckle. How can there be a dördüncü kitap in a trilogy? I like it....it might have something to do with being in another dimension.
This is just the kind of humour you can expect from Douglas Adams - if you haven't found out already. He claimed no trilogy is complete without a fourth part.
never heard just so long i usually use that for real meaning like it takes so long cok uzun and i am pretty sure i have heard it in sentences like so long so far
thank you for your respond
Is "için" always preceded by a noun in the nominative? Does it change at all for pronouns?
I have the same question. Of course it's different in every language, but I'd have thought it could've been "balıkları" or something.
It's with nominative if the word is a noun (like here) and with genitive if it is a personal pronoun (senin için).
Why stating tesekkurler immediately after the word and is incorrect? Ve tesekkurler butun baliklar icin. Someone please explain.
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When a word + için is used, it usually comes before the rest of the phrase that it is in - yardım için teşekkürler rather than teşekkürler yardım için. It may be more of a convention than a rule, but in Turkish modifiers that make something specific usually come first, so because it is specifying what you are thanking for, it comes before thanks.
I'm not certain, but I believe that would mean "thanks for the entire fish" rather than "thanks for all the fish" (the second one indicating that you received more than one fish).
It's a bit ambiguous in English, since the word "fish" can be either singular or plural: "That's a big fish!" / "He ate three fish."
- için = for
- balıklar için = for the fish
- balıklar için teşekkürler = thanks for the fish
- bütün balıklar için teşekkürler = thanks for all the fish :-)
What is the difference between "bütün" and "tüm". They seem to have the same meaning but somehow they're not interchangeable.
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I don't like this... "bütün balıklar için teşekkürler" sounds to me like "thanks for the whole fish (plural)", as opposed to the "partial" or "incomplete" fish.
I think "tüm balıklar için..." or even "balıkların tümü için..." (which to be fair could mean "all of the fish") sounds better.
Something to review perhaps.
"Teşekkürler" can stand on its own. (I don't know why, to be honest, but it's just like English: Thanks!). However, "teşekkür" needs an auxilary/helping verb ("etmek").
- Teşekkürler = Thanks
- Teşekkür ederim = I thank you ("sana/size" is implied)
You will find "etmek" popping up all over the place to help out. :-)
"So long" bunun hoşçakal anlamına geldiğini bilmiyordum. Google Translate bile bu şekilde çeviri yapmıyor. Acaba bu yaygın bir kullanım mı? Yoksa bu halinide bilelim diyemi paylaşıldı?
The whole thing is "bütün balıklar için" -- a post-position phrase that serves as an adverb in this sentence. It is modifying/specifying what the "thanks" is about.
Putting -ler at the end of a word shows that it's plural, like kedi (cat) and kediler (cats). Writing only "teşekkür" would be like saying "Thank!" instead of "Thanks!"
Hey selcen , thanks for your info , because i thought there was a typo so thanks for telling "so long's" meaning
"So long" has two meanings in English. It depends on the context. It can be literally "I can't believe this is taking so long" or it can mean "goodbye." When meaning "goodbye," it is quite informal. As Selcen wrote in the comments above, So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish is the fourth book of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy trilogy written by Douglas Adams, so this sentence is kind of an in-joke. There is also a famous song by Woody Guthrie entitled "So long, it's been good to know yuh" (you). https://youtu.be/zqiblXFlZuk
Is it ABSOLUTELY wrong to place "için" before "bütün" in this sentence? And if so, can you tell me why and give me a few examples? Thank you. I've not been able to be as active with my lessons lately and it's showing...eek!
I can't tell you why except that's the way it is. "Bu sizin için" would be an example: "This is for you."
İ writen " çok uzun ve teşekküler tüm için balıklar" and answer isn't correct. :( explain pls!!!
I notice two problems with your sentence.
First: "So long" is an informal English term that can either mean "goodbye" or "very long". Here are two sentences showing the difference:
"That cat's tail is so long!" (length)
"So long, see you tomorrow!" (goodbye)
In this question, the speaker is basically saying, "Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish".
Next: you've got the second part in the wrong order.
Bütün balıklar için teşekkürler.
All the fish for thanks.
All (bütün/tum) the fish (balıklar) for (için) teşekkürler (thanks).
You also forgot the "r" in teşekkürler, but Duolingo is often forgiving with spelling.
Why is "hosca kalin ve baliklarin icin tessuker edirim"? wrong? ;-;
hosca kalin
"So long" is a very casual phrase, so the informal hoşça kal makes more sense in translation.
ve baliklarin icin
Için requires the genitive only for pronouns, so you don't need it on balıklar -- but you do need to add a word that means "all."
tessuker edirim
Using the full teşekkür ederim is usually translated as "thank you" instead of "thanks" -- but if it is accepted as an alternative answer, it might have too many typos to make it through.
Would Elveda be ok here in place of hoşça kal? I dimly remembered seeing it elsewhere and liking it because it drew a distinction that english doesn't have -- something less like the general "bye" and more like "farewell" or "adieu" in a situation in which the people in question were not likely to see each other ever again.
It seems to be a better fit and it's not accepted.