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"Cette femme est plus âgée que je ne suis."

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December 22, 2012

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https://www.duolingo.com/Heather_Watkins
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I've only ever seen "ne" used for negation. It doesn't seem to be negating anything here, though. Can anyone tell me the function of "ne" in this sentence?

December 22, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/delapouite
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It's called a "ne" explétif, which means that this adverb is not mandatory and has nothing to do with the negation one ("ne...pas").

It only appears in subordinates parts (after "que") with certain verbs or constructions like the present example.

By the way, the usual form of this sentence is more often : Cette femme est plus âgée que moi.

December 23, 2012

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By the way, the correct form is "cette femme est plus âgée que je ne LE suis".

December 24, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/gnaag
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I am confused. What is the funcion of that LE in your version?

December 27, 2012

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Its function is the replacement of "âgée". Yet I must admit that this turn of phrase has more words than necessary. To say the same thing, enough to say "elle est plus âgée que moi".

December 27, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/jamesrtyrrell

I was told "This woman is more elderly than I" is wrong. I don't think it's the best sentence in the world but I don't think it's technically wrong, thoughts?

January 6, 2013

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Yes it is, because "elderly" is a noun, a polite word for "old person". Therefore you cannot use a comparative (more... or less...) with a noun, only with an adjective.

the simple adjective "old" is sufficient.

In French : "vieux" (singular/plural - masculine) and "vieille" or "vieilles" (singular or plural - feminine)

January 6, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jamesrtyrrell

Elderly is an adjective not a noun. "An elder" is a noun. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elderly?s=t

Because it's an adjective with 3 syllables it therefore requires the use of most/more/less etc before it when used as a comparative or superlative.

It certainly isn't a very common statement though, so probably not worth including here.

January 6, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/tbradley6

Elderly can be used as both, for instance the elderly come here often. But I would consider you correct also.

January 9, 2013

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Thank you for this new info.

January 6, 2013
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