https://www.duolingo.com/paulaha88

Learning via Telenovelas: "Amores con Trampa" looks promising

Telenovelas (TN's) are a great way to learn or improve your Spanish. That's how I learned. People often ask me which one to watch. Since they're always changing (a TN runs between 6 and 14 months from start to finish; they're not perpetual like soap operas), I usually don't have an answer. But last night I came across one that recently started and it looks promising.

Amores con trampa, 8-9 pm M-F, on Univision. It has Ed Yañez and Ernesto Liguardia; both are very good. It shouldn't be as dark as the narco-novelas. If you decide to watch, maybe we can talk about it here on the board. I'll be watching tonight.

My tips for learning Spanish via TNs: http://www.redshift.com/~bonajo/spantnstudy.htm

Caray Caray, blog of English speakers co-watching TNs to improve their Spanish. The blog stream for this show: http://caraycaray.blogspot.com/search/label/Trampa

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/languagelover0
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Hey, thanks for the tips/links. These look helpful, I will be sure to check them out.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tnel1
tnel1
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That looks like some cheesy good fun! That barn in the middle of the city is a fun graphic and portends of some fish out of water action.

http://television.televisa.com/telenovelas/amores-con-trampa/

Wish I could watch it with ya! :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paulaha88

Why not? We could have the Duolingo Club Trampas!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/tnel1
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Not sure I can see it online. :( I've been really wanting to add a Spanish language telenovela to my learning repertoire, but I only get one Spanish channel from Spain. I heard so many people over the years say they picked up languages this way though. I know it has helped me immensely with German. It's a huge skill, for me, just to get my brain to stay in another language and not want to tune out that which it doesn't recognize. :) The best part is you get hooked in to a daily show so you practice daily - much better than movies in that sense. Plus you get used to hearing the same actors speaking...lots of benefits.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cipoll

I started with La Fea más Bella on the Televisa Telenovelas youtube channel. I don'treally like over dramatic or super dark-themed stuff, and I found this one pretty cute. It has its drama of course, but it's also funny and catchy! :D

Also, I LOVE your tips, great work!!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paulaha88

Don Fernando. Tan divino!

Nunca va a poder existir nadia más como Don Fernando. (cap. 64)

Can you still find Fea on that site? Can you please give me a link? I tell people about it but I don't know where to send them. Ping me if you ever want to talk about Fea. I could discuss the plot, themes, character development, etc. until the cows come home! BTW, are you watching Jane the Virgin, Mondays, 9 pm on CW? Jaime Camil (Don Fernando) is hilarious in that!!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cipoll

Of course, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=ELz4R5dGuKbl8 :D When I have free time I watch so many episodes in a row. My friends judge me. I'm around capítulo 78 at the moment, I will definitely come talk to you as soon as I get back into it!!

I'm in Europe so I don't get CW here, but I'm sure I can find Jane the Virgin elsewhere - I will give it a shot, how can I say no to Jaime Camil?? :D

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paulaha88

TE ADORO!! Do you have ANY idea how many times I've wanted a link like that? In fact, hoy mismo I'm going to share it with somebody.

Cap 78? That's during the "Hippy Ed" phase. How fun. Imagine this: Ed as a symbol of Fernando's higher self. It's not actually the case, but it gives you an interesting perspective on those five episodes.

EDITED. Cipoll's link doesn't work in the US, but she found another one: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4BuLDi6hNcJDlOyaU_wQvk1HNF0GeJzI . That one works here.

This TN is based on the Colombian original which is probably the greatest TN script ever written. It's pure magic!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Helen_Hohenheim
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Is this actually some new version of Yo soy Betty, la fea from 1999? It looks extremely similar judged by the intro. (Anyway, I loved that telenovela so that would be good news, thanks for the heads up:)))

Edit: Nevermind, I just started watching the episode and it's actually pretty much identical, a very faithful remake:)) (I just feel very old now for watching the original version on TV in 2003 or so, haha)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paulaha88

It's the Mexican version from 2006/07.

  • The plot is the same except the Mexican tacked on a 50-cap extension at the end; that was a travesty because it disrupted Gaitán's perfect plot. In fact, in the first 50 cap's, the script is identical, word-for-word.
  • The Mexican inserted episodes in a few spots. Some are improvements (Hippy Ed, Cuernavaca) and some are a disaster (the horse commercial).
  • The Mexican show is lighter with more comedy in some spots. The sound and production quality is better. The cuartel is far more annoying. One character is redeemed in the end; he should've been destroyed as he was in the Colombian because IMHO he's actually the villain (no, not Daniel).
  • The Michele character has a much bigger role in the Mexican version.
  • Orozco does a much better fea than the Mexican one, A. Vale. As for the galan, I know this is heresy, but I believe that in many ways Camil does better than JEA (don't throw things at me!). He was absolutely magical in this. I will grant you though, in certain scenes JEA was superior.
  • The timing of la fea's transformation is very different, and I liked the Mexican choice better on that question.

I highly recommend it. Watch for parallels between la fea and Alicia (Patricia). Watch for the significance of cars in the show - every spot where a car is featured in the plot, it represents autonomy and power. Watch for foreshadows, especially in the first 10 cap's.

Put a note on my stream if you decide to watch it. I can direct you to a few other notes that will supplement your watching. I can't post them here; they would be spoilers.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Helen_Hohenheim
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Wooow, thank you for all the info, that's very exhaustive and enlightening!! :) I'll definitely look into it!

I'm actually really curious about all the changes as I've just recently re-discovered the Colombian version on youtube and found out that I still remember A LOT, so my motivation to watch it again consistently might not be high enough. (I can't wait to re-watch my favorite episodes though!) However, in the Mexican version I could still watch pretty much the same story but with the suspense of a different build-up and new twists. (I can also already see the two main actors could potentially have good chemistry, although no one will beat AMO and JEA for me:) )

I really can't wait to start watching it and will surely contact you later on stream. Thank you so much! :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Potshot

Presently on Telemundo in my area they are showing "Tierra de Reyes". The other one is a narco type called I think Lords of the skies or something like that. I haven't kept up with it though. Tierra de Reyes which translates Land of Honor is ok. There is another one they are showing called Avenida Brasil I think. I haven't been watching it though. Tierra is pretty good though and I plan to keep up with it. Anyway I will check out Amores con trampa if it is on in this area.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paulaha88

Almost every place that has Telemundo also has Univision. The reverse is not true - many places have Univision but not Telemundo (I believe).

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Potshot

I have both here.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/paulaha88

If anybody wants to head up a Fea-Watching "club," count me in. I just don't want to spearhead it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChimpiAV

Hello guys, my name is Adán Ayala, I am a Spanish Teacher from Mexico. I have a lot of experience using media and TV shows (much better than soap operas) as a form of immersion. They can be extremely productive as long as you know how to work and get the most out of them. I realized that my students after finishing their methods and programs in our school developed only some writing and limited speaking skills, and that is very far from being fluent. Most of them didn´t have many opportunities to practice or someone with whom to practice. Part of the problem was their lack of vocabulary, a small understanding of slang and idioms and very little training on their listening comprehension. I must say that the real challenge for me as a teacher was to find good content with subtitles and transcriptions to work and help the students analyze in a controlled class setting. But in the last years, some big networks and streaming services have invested more in Latin American and Spanish productions which is awesome, and it gives us great material to learn. Their topics and contents are closer to the global culture and interests than the traditional so-called "telenovelas". Please send me a message if anyone of you is interested in conversational classes using this method or you can contact me at adan@spanishlive.online or visit my website on http://spanishlive.online/

4 months ago
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