# CHALLENGE your friends! Do you accept, decline, or have a counter offer? Reward for winning: Lingots

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Let's have challenges!

Here is how it would work: You propose a challenge to a friend. Let's say you want to have a race with your friend to see who can get to 5000 total skill points first. Then the friend has an option to either

• accept
• decline
• counter offer

your proposal. Say the friend thinks 5000 points is too many but still wants to have a competition. Then the friend could counter offer and request 4000 points if wanted.

This would show in your stream, and you would get a notification when a proposal was made to you. Also, to make this even more fun, if you win the challenge there could be a reward of lingots!

NOTE: I know people have discussed this before, but I have only seen it in a few comments, so I thought I could start a discussion :)

September 18, 2013

Great idea! Instead of more lingots being added into circulation, the participants could wager lingots, adding them to a pool. Whoever wins gets ALL the lingots from the pool. Here's how I think it could work:

1. Somebody posts the proposal to some of his friends. (He chooses which friends to propose to.)
2. They either accept or decline.
3. If somebody accepts, he has to wager a certain amount, but it must be more than whatever the last wager was.
4. If he's the first person to wager, he can choose whatever amount he wants.
5. Note that as each person wagers, the minimum amount goes higher and higher... so it pays to be the first person to wager!
6. They pool their wagers. The wagers are not the same.
7. The game begins!
8. When somebody wins, they get all the lingots that were pooled.

Almost like gambling, except it's possible to win, and there is no randomness and no guessing.

September 19, 2013

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But I don't want my young child to be exposed to dark world of gambling!

September 19, 2013

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It wouldn't be a dark world, because it's not really gambling, but I still also agree with you that maybe it would be better for kids not to participate in this. Maybe so kids wouldn't be part of this, DL could ask your age, so they know whether they can let you have it or not. Your age wouldn't be public, though.

September 19, 2013

But how do you know if kids don't lie just to play the game?

August 16, 2016

good idea

June 4, 2015

I'm new to duolingo and I thought that I have seen somewhere this kind of contest. And i persuaded a friend to join, and lets the game/contest begin . And now im wandering around duolingo.. where is contest??? cant find it?!?!. Looking got me here. I am reading this comment and I just can't believe what I see. Contest is not gambling. Gambling is investing something, and trying to multiple value of investment by doing nothing. And contest means that you need to put some effort to win. If you are running on a local marathon you need to pay entry fee (lingots here), and on the end of the marathon, if you put enough effort, you get reward! That is not gambling. That is something that will teach your children to try more for better result/award! I'm wondering, what kind of parent you are, and what do you teach your children? Do you teach them that winning in contest is right earned by birth, or you have to try and train more than the next guy/girl!

WE WANT CONTEST!!!

:D :D :D

February 3, 2016

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It's sarcasm...

February 3, 2016

I agree completely. I, too, do not vaccinate my seven children.

January 22, 2019

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Love it!!!

September 19, 2013

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what would happen if the wager is bigger than my personal lingot amount?

September 19, 2013

There are multiple options. I figured I'd leave that out of my main post, for the sake of simplicity.

There could be a maximum wager, which would be the least number of lingots that anybody has, and once the wager gets that high it stops getting higher.

Or maybe once the wager goes above the number of lingots you have, then you are automatically counted out.

September 19, 2013

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This option would be ok if there were only adults on Duolingo. Like you said it is almost like gambling.

I like clarabouch's initial idea more (without wagering lingots). if Duolingo accepts "challanges" I recommend implementing an element of uncertainty. When the challenge starts user's information becomes private until the conclusion of the challenge. This could motivate people to try even harder but it would probably be difficult to implement

September 19, 2013

This wouldn't really be gambling. A gamble is a game of chance, whereas this would all depend on how confident people are in their own ability to work harder than the others. It also creates an incentive for everyone to learn faster than they would without the wager. If DL wanted to incorporate gambling, they'd add a virtual slot machine or roulette wheel, which would be entirely based on chance. This is completely different.

September 19, 2013

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Strictly speaking it is a defined as "To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest (gambling)". Although I see no problem with this kind of gambling, no money is involved, the effects are not really negative, losing lingots is not really a big deal as it doesn't affect the use of the program.

In fact, if the users believe gambling is bad, then they should criticize the "double or nothing wager" item in the duolingo store. As it is 'a contest' with 'an uncertain outcome' and because it takes your lingots if you don't keep your streak.

September 19, 2013

But how do we propose a challenge

July 10, 2017

But how do we propose a challenge

July 10, 2017

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What do you think about weekly and monthly TOURNAMENTS (everyone can choose to participate) with prizes for 1. 2. and 3. place??

There could be language specific tournaments and general Duolingo tournaments.

Depending on the number of users participating prizes could be given to first 10 or 20 users. Participation fee could be around 5 lingots. One of the problems is where to put the leaderboard. (tournament tab ? )

example categories:

• IMMERSION: who translated the most sentences.
• LESSONS: who can earn more points doing only lessons (doesn't matter which type non timed or timed practice, new lessons, old lessons)
• TIMED PRACTICE: who can earn the most points (only count points from timed practice)
September 19, 2013

GREAT IDEA. THE WINNER SHOULD GET AROUND 100 LINGOTS AND THE OTHER PEOPLE LESS. THE TOURNAMENT TAB CAN GO RIGHT NEXT TO THE DISCUSSION TAB. THERE COULD BE MORE CATEGORIES FOR DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, AND MORE CATEGORIES FOR EACH CATEGORY, SUCH A S BEGINNER, INTERMEDIATE AND, MASTER. AMAZING IDEA

January 24, 2017

Wow, great idea!

September 19, 2013

That's a great way to introduce a lot of competition!

September 20, 2013

I agree with the PastryCat. Bring it on !

September 20, 2013

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Great idea. Competition will help motivate people to study

September 20, 2013

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I won't say it's a GREAT idea, cuz i'm not convinced at all, however I still think it's a good idea, so you have my vote up.

September 19, 2013

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Man, all you duolingo folks have such brilliant ideas!!

I say YES to the 'challenge' proposal!

September 22, 2013

NO

June 4, 2015

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I just thought of this myself and gave myself a pat on the back for having a really spectacular idea. Then I searched the discussion and inevitably found that someone else already had this really great idea. Please implement this really great idea had by many. Being able to wager lingots against friends would make competition way more exciting.

February 13, 2014

But how can I start a challenge?

September 5, 2014

You're too late. There's no challenge option no more

January 20, 2015

how do you send a request to do it

April 23, 2015

u dont

June 4, 2015

how do we get to that point

September 23, 2015

How do you propose a challenge? That's what I want to know. But great article. You could be a writer!

November 29, 2016

YESSS

January 18, 2017

how do i join?

February 17, 2017

I LOVE this idea!!!

July 8, 2017

How do we propose a challenge with a friend

July 10, 2017

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October 1, 2015