https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ketoacidosis

A small change, but I like it a lot

I am not sure if this is an actual change, or if I just think I am noticing something different. After completing a lesson, I am no longer given a suggestion to translate an article.

That means I am not shown what percentage of articles it thinks I can read, but I am glad I am not being shown this message.

I like this, because I can start the next lesson sooner, and there is a bit less time wasted between lessons.

Is this also happening for you? What do you think about this?

Edit: I made an account on Duolingo for my mother, and after she completed her first lesson, she got a message saying, "You are now 1% fluent in French." I hope this doesn't replace the old message.

May 12, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/asawp

I was actually commenting to myself just today that I hadn't seen one of those notices in a while! I had assumed that it was because all my skills were very weak but I strengthened them and still no annoying notification! I am so glad it's not prompting me to translate anymore, although it does detract from the encouragement factor. I was always happy to see the percentage I could read go up.

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ketoacidosis

If you're interested, this might be a somewhat accurate estimation of how much you can read. This is from Fluent Forever, by Gabriel Wyner:

Learning the 1000 most common words covers roughly 85% of spoken words, and 75% of written words. Learning the next 1000 most common words will give a 5% boost to each.

  • The 80% with 2000 words applies to nonfiction; you can know about 90% of words when reading fiction with knowledge of the top 2000 words.

Wyner writes, "On the surface, those 5 percent may seem like a relatively small payoff for a thousand new words, but in practice, they make a significant difference. Instead of running into issues with every fourth word you read, you’ll have pushed it back to every fifth word."

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Garrett2015

My tree surprised me this week by losing a LOT of gold leaves each day (far faster than I could keep up with), so like you I just thought it was because my skills were too weak - ouch! I'm glad it's not the case!

I like how much faster the process is, although I do admit I did enjoy seeing my estimated reading abilities, as it was a little ego boost with each lesson. :-) I've been collecting screencaps to keep track and to show friends, haha. I made it up to 76.3% a few days ago - I wonder where I'm at now?

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jgstcd

I think it's happening for everyone. What do I think? On the one hand the percentages duo was suggesting were often ludicrous, in one direction or the other. On the other hand, the reason why duo have dropped that is that they are moving away from Immersion. I think that's unfortunate in itself, and particularly when coupled with the way the lessons are structured.

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kiehehe

Why are DL moving away from Immersion?

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ketoacidosis

When Duolingo first started, there was a bigger focus on "learn a language for free while translating the web," with the idea that crowd-sourced translations can be just as accurate as professionally paid translators.

TED Talk by Luis von Ahn shortly before Duolingo was released.

I have heard that they are focusing more on affordable language certification than sponsored translations now.

May 13, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kiehehe

So, they use the articles that we translate and sell them on?

(I say WE, I am currently incapable of translating lol)

May 13, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LeIouch

They get revenue from translating English articles into Spanish for CNN and BuzzFeed but that's it for translations as far as I'm aware. Supposedly they derive some revenue from certifying peoples English language skills through some sort of test though I'm not sure how popular this is and if it's even recognised by employers/universities etc.

May 13, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jgstcd

That was going to be the business model at one point, but it appears not to have worked.

May 13, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kiehehe

What other sources of revenue do they have? Thanks for the answers by the way :)

May 13, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/emeyr

I like your description:...it thinks I can read... Também não sinto falta da notícia.

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sheldolina

Yes, this has been happening to me for a while now. It's an A/B test, I think.

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sarmady

I was never suggested to do translation!

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/b05aplmun.ca

It must be an ongoing A/B test. I am still getting suggestions to try translating (never mind that I, in fact, use the immersion section regularly).

May 12, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andrewr756

I noticed this has stopped as well, it is good to not see it after every lesson (even though it only takes a couple of seconds to click past it lol!) but it would be nice to be able to see it somewhere on the site - I checked the 'words' and 'immersion' sections and it is not showing there.

May 12, 2015
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