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What happened to Duolingo?

What happened to Duolingo?

Last year I finished Duolingo English to Spanish in September. It took me 110 days. I thought I would go back and look at it this week for the heck of it. Needless to say I knew it would be easier since I now live in Mexico with a non-English speaking amiga and still study every day as well as conversing with everyone in Spanish the entire day. The program now is so simple, not because of my improvement, but the incredible changes they made.

There used to be 20 questions instead of 7. You had 3 hearts, 4 if you bought another 1 with lingots. If you used up 4 hearts by getting 4 wrong you had to start the entire lesson over again. Many a time you got to the 20th question with no hearts, got it wrong and had to start again. When you did finish you earned 10 points for completing the lesson plus 1 point for every heart you had left. Lingots were extremely important to buy that 4th heart.

You had to translate from English to Spanish and from Spanish to English. Why are they only translating from Spanish to English? That doesn't help much when you are trying to form a sentence in Spanish.

Duolingo helped me so much in learning Spanish. I am glad I finished the tree before these changes. Does any know what lead to these changes? I certainly hope that people were complaining it was too hard. Learning is supposed to be challenging.

3 years ago

36 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/bumbleandtumble
bumbleandtumble
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Okay...that is weird, because that is not happening to me. Sure, everyone is experiencing the strength bar instead of the hearts, but you also said that you only translate from Spanish to English? that is strange, because that is definitely not with me......and you also noted that you only have 7 questions? what? that is not so with me.....hmmmm :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rsmall64

Yes, it is weird because all of the lessons that I look at now have the same number of questions as before not 7. It's like an update hit my program, it is very strange, but I am glad to see it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/P.Salamander

It's an AB test actually.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rsmall64

On checking again the only lessons that have more than 7 questions are the ones with matching pictures. Maybe since I have completed the tree, the format is different. Has anyone else experienced this?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gramborm

It seems to me that the number of questions adjusts depending on how well you do/how many times you've done the lesson. I'm still learning the basics and repeating lessons. The first time I usually have 18 questions, the second goes to 10, and the third usually 7-10 depending on my ability.

Maybe you have ascended the basic language skills here and need to move to something harder!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/airn4116

Strange, the only one of those things that i'm experiencing is the bar.

I completed the tree about a month and a half or go... I practice at least 30-60xp worth ever day and only miss one day every two weeks or so. I've constantly redone many of the lessons and I usually always have at least 17 questions, if I get all of them correct.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeanG6
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My number of questions has always been 17 since they stopped the hearts system in December. But then about a week ago, my number has increased to 24. If I get every sentence correct, I have 24 sentences. If I get 1 wrong, it goes up to 27. And so on. What's up with that?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hamstersrock7

Yes, I say EXACTLY what blackjackninja999x says.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bumbleandtumble
bumbleandtumble
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Thank you.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Luisssss12

i think that he wanted to say 17

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oletuv

I don´t like the changes either, but I´m more concerned about how little the Duolingo sentences database has improved over the past 18 months. I´m mainly reviewing both Spanish-English-Spanish courses daily to keep my day streak, and I am still getting the same silly errors on perfectly valid answers that were reported ages ago. With more than 30 billion users on these courses one would think they should have improved their answers database a lot more by now. I´m really considering to leave Duolingo now since it does not give me much any longer.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

I think you mean 30 Million users, unless every person on the planet has multiple accounts. :) And I think many of us need to accept the fact that there comes a time when other sites/resources may be more beneficial to our learning than Duo. I dabble here daily, but the meat of my learning has been Non-Duo for quite some time.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rsmall64

I agree totally. I have been using a number of other resources. The most difficult thing for me in Mexico is understanding the spoken word at such a rapid speed. An age old problem for people learning a new language, but it getting much better. Another funny thing is when they see you speak English they want to practice their English instead of speaking Spanish.lol. Many Mexicans are very surprised at an American speaking Spanish. Most Americans think everyone speaks English. You are treated differently if you speak the language, for the better of course.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Talca
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It got dumbed down awhile back. Still useful, but it's a good system that could be a great system. Instead they waste their time on Klingon etc,

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob2042

Exactly!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Maldito23
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What part of Mexico are you living in? I just got back from Guadalajara and nobody there seemed surprised when I spoke Spanish. I got quite a few reactions of surprise and amazement from people all over Costa Rica, though.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/airn4116

Same here. I went to a border town once and most people didnt even react to me speaking Spanish they just carried on like normal haha. Many of my Latin american friends in the states react with more surprise then the people living in Mexico did.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rsmall64

I am in Mazatlán by way of Ensenada. I have been down here for about 1 1/2 years. I think the reason that people are surprised is because I am older, 66, and they are not used to seeing people my age speaking Spanish. The people my age are usually tourists who can order a a bottle of water but that's about it. The younger Mexicans in their teens are the ones that are surprised the most. I can ask them a question in perfect Spanish with a good accent and they look at me like I'm speaking an alien language. They go and get some who older that speaks English and I and I repeat the same thing and they understand perfectly. They just don't expect to hear Spanish and it's a real disconnect. Not all younger kids of course. It's kind of funny.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeanG6
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I've had similar experiences in the U.S. I will speak Spanish to someone who appears to know Spanish, and they respond with a blank stare. I repeat it again with the same result. Then I ask in English, "you speak Spanish, don't you?" and they respond "Yes". I repeat my sentence a 3rd time in English, asking how would you say it in Spanish, and they reply with the exact phrase I originally said to them twice. And I tell them, "I just said that!" For some reason they don't comprehend Spanish when they don't expect to be hearing it. Funny.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/airn4116

@DeanG6

haha yea I've been through that... i do wonder how much accent is involved tho. I'm not sure how good your accent is, most of my friends tell me mine is good but I think that perhaps spanish speakers aren't as used to dealing with foreigners accents as maybe english speakers are? Pure conjecture here but I think it's possible.

I know i've heard of some native spanish speakers having trouble being understood within their country. Like one guy from andaluz on YouTube talking about his troubles in madrid.

With my friends a lot of times when I start talking to them they're deers in headlights for the first sentence but once the ball gets rolling they seem to have an easier time, could be they just need to adjust and get used to hearing non-native speakers speaking their language.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WanderingMonk
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Since Klingon was added Duolingo has gained a lot of users from other planets all over the federation.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KimSinglet

LOL!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dxd00dle

I love it, lighten up folks!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rogercchristie
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At least there don't seem to be so many colloquialisms and local dialects, and therefore fewer silly arguments in the Klingon discussions. :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oletuv

Hehe.. yes more than 30 million, not billion :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KimSinglet

I have been using Duolingo for about a year, and have to admit, I haven't been faithful to it, like some of you. I do it for awhile and then leave and then come back to it. I still enjoy it, and have a lot more to learn, because I'm not as far along as some of you. However, since the last time I was on the site, I too, have noticed that things are more forgiving. I've also noticed that it seems easier to get through the lessons, without getting down to the last question, finding you were wrong and having to start all over again! That was frustrating to me, BUT, on the other hand, it made the lesson more challenging. Someone did mention that they have found another site they have been using. What is that?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DeanG6
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My experience is opposite. I used to be able to get through a lesson answering 17 sentences correct. Now I have to answer 24 sentences correct. It takes forever to do just one lesson.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/shalee73

Well, I'm new here so I never experienced the old Duolingo, but to me having to restart a lesson when you get the last question wrong sounds more frustrating than helpful! Perhaps they just didn't want to discourage users? You still need to get a certain number of questions right to fill the strength bar and finish the lesson. Hopefully they are re-giving sentences that we get wrong later in the lesson? I don't know I've never really paid close attention to that, but that would be a way for people to get more practice with what they don't know without them having to repeat everything they do know.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FLchick
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I started under the old Duolingo three hearts system 18 months ago and still visit daily. I, for one, prefer the kinder, gentler Duo.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GigiKaren
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Me too. There were times I'd have to do a lesson over so many times it was beyond frustrating... especially when often enough I lost hearts due to typos, and in trying to edit an answer pressing the right arrow key acts as "enter".. argh! Now, if it takes much longer, it's just more practice. :D Also, I do so much better in the morning than late at night when I'm nodding off. I don't know why! lol!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/L8rgator

I don't mind the change in the heart system, but I'm very frustrated with getting the same question over and over in the same lesson. If i get it right, then dont ak me two more times! Mix it up a bit. During the heart system it was much less repetition. In this system i feel like I'm treated like a kindergartner. But learning alot less. Its like simple flashcards now.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mexicana21

well duolingo has been having some problems this year.. but it is easy and simple... i mean yeah there is some little glitches but all is well i really enjoy duolingo and it does help with learning a new language i'll support duolingo no matter what...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BirgirV
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Is Spanish by nature a challenge? If you need that, learn Chinese or Arabic or maybe Polish. I use Duo to review some and add a few. Every now and then I go and add a little and then mostly practice. Just letting the language seep in is good enough for me. I enjoy seeing the similarities and the differences of the latin languages. And how much Dutch is related to German, English and the Nordic langs. Sometimes I see Gaelic words that are still in use in Icelandic after more than thousand years since Viking times. Epli, úll, Apfel, appel, pomme, manzana, mela, macã. Hestur, Pferd, paard, capall, cheval, cavalo, caballo, cavallo. Pure fun!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Feraz.I

Hi, I too was experiencing only seven questions and spanish to english translations. It was like that for about two weeks and then switched back to seventeen questions. I hope it never switches to the 7 question format again as it was absolutely terrible.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Feraz.I

I think it was a A/B test. Hopefully a failed one.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LuvGMMLinkNeal

Kinda weird.

3 years ago