"Jenta har ikke et eple."
Translation:The girl does not have an apple.
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It sounds clear to me, but if you're not used to distinguishing between the two sounds in your native language then it's perfectly normal to struggle with it initially. You'll get the hang of it! :)
One thing that can be of help with listening exercises, is asking yourself whether what you think you're hearing is actually grammatically correct. 'jente' on it's own would not make sense grammatically in this sentence, it would have to be either 'jenten', 'jenta', 'en jente' or 'ei jente'.
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But "jenten" is not grammatically correct. "Jente" (girl) is female and becomes "jenta" (the girl) not "jenten."
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"Jenten" is not grammatically correct in Nynorsk. But it is grammatically correct in Bokmål and some dialects.
There is no difference in meaning. You can choose either as a translation for "the girl." See the tips and notes section for more info.
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In Bokmål you can, it is correct. All feminine nouns can use as masculine.
From https://www.duolingo.com/skill/nb/Basics/tips-and-notes
All feminine gendered nouns can be classified as masculine gender as well. In theory, one could treat all feminine nouns as masculine ones, but most Norwegians still use the feminine form, especially for certain words. The choice really is up to you! Both en kvinne and ei kvinne are grammatically correct, and the tendency to use the feminine gender depends on geography and dialect. We have decided to teach it where it is most natural to use it, with words such as jente meaning girl, for example.
Ei jente = Jenta / En jente = Jenten.. its a dialekt thing. Bergen for example doesnt use Ei but here in Stavanger we do.
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In some places in Norway, there are three genders. In the dialect taught here, there are two, as masculine and feminine merged recently into common gender. Jente is feminine, and takes ei instead of en when it is in the three-gender dialect. The feminine plural in three-gender dialect is -a.
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So the word "not" or "ikke" will come after the word have? So it would literally be if you were to translate it to English "the girl has not an apple"?
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It seems so. The same way for other verbs. For example "Jeg er ikke en kvinne" would be translated roughly as "I am not a woman"; or "Jeg forstaar ikke Norsk" would be "I understand not Norwegian" -- even though, in this last case, the English sentence should be "I don't understand Norwegian".
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Try replacing 'not' with 'no' and it makes sense again in English, although it's not a pretty version of the sentence.
Ikke can be 'not' or 'no' as in:
'I understand no Norwegian' -> it's still probably grammatically bot 100%ly correct, but it makes more sense as ro why it's structured this way.
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What is the difference between the definitions and the pronounciation between jenta and jente?
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If you translate what it exactly says word by word, it reminds me of older english.
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That is not proper grammar for english. When translating yoy often to change word order to fit the grammar of the target language
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Is the break between the final e of "ikke" and initial e of "et eple" a normal thing? Do the words blend together in conversation?
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If you speak properly you pronounce them both but they will come close after one another.
Does anyone else find it's confusing that Jente Jenta and Jenter all sound virtually identical
Keep listening to Norwegian, and you'll learn to tell them apart. New sounds take some time getting used to, that's all. :)
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When translating it is best practice to keep as exact as possible. 'She' in place of "the girl" is how pronouns work and has similar meaning but if you say she the target may know for example if you mean the girl, the woman, the mother, etc.
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It translates to "the girl" but there isn't a word to denote "the", is this proper or should there be a word to denote "the"? Thanks.
Norwegian uses a definite suffix rather than a free-standing definite article, so it's the ending -a that translates to "the" here.
Alguien puede informarme si puedo hacer mi curso de noruego pero en español es q todo me sale en ingles
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el o cursoueguesel curso de noruego se puede hacer sólo en inglés. Lo siento mucho.
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Is saying "En jente har ikke et eple" akin to saying "Jenta har ikke et eple"? Or is there a difference, grammatically?
Your first example means "A girl does not have an apple". The definite form is made by adding a suffix, like '-a' in the case of feminine nouns :)