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Talk about demotivating LOL! (fluency)

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Before, I was 70 something percent able to read written Spanish. Today I wake up to find this new fluency thing and that I am only 55%. I just completed two strengthens, and now I am 54%!

Kinda feeling a bit demotivated! hah

3 years ago

31 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Rob2042

How can anyone be considered fluent at any percentage with a vocabulary of only 1,500 words?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rocko2012
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Yeah it is an exaggeration to boost our confidence like the old percentage was. I also do not trust its relative comparison worth much either I have 58% and have scored 114,000 points in about 3 years. The OP has 8000 points and is at 54%.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BryanAJParry
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Tht's what I'm saying. It's not accurate anyway, so why do my confidence down? :'( I'll get over it, tho ;-D

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/truelefty
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what the streak

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SimoneBa
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I must say, DL has dumbed down incredibly from a year ago, when the exercises were so much more challenging.

And you cannot ever achieve fluency on Duolingo. You can only get there by talking to real human beings. A LOT. But instead of giving us at least decent voice recordings, which would be a start, they fob us off with fantasy percentages of skills this system is not designed to teach in the first place.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SteveLando
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What a stupid thing - they should concentrate on making advanced courses instead

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rob2042

Exactly, but as others have pointed out, those of us who have made the effort to actually learn a language are a minority and apparently don`t count.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/webnauta
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That's a strange stuation... In my case, I've reached the level 25 in my reverse tree a few days ago and when i returned my old tree, I was 52% of english fluency... i thought that's an impossible situation because i had not entered to my old three since december 2014!!! I don't understand anything...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/geraldmkj

I'm doing my reverse tree also, and it's amusing to see that it says I'm 26% fluent in English while I am a native English speaker and therefore 100% fluent, and if not completely 100%, then 99.9999%

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/truelefty
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Well, it's an average, as if you were not a native English speaker

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Teen_Polyglot

I was at 41% and after doing my lesson I went down to 40%. Not as bad I guess but still discouraging.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dr-Pen
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At least I'm not the only one with this problem. Although, I think Duolingo is just basing this measurement on the material that it's teaching, not our actual ability.

Also, I'm at 53% even though I'm at level 25, translation level 6 etc. And I've spent half of the morning just to try to bump it up by 1%. Still no luck so far.

Like others have said, there should be more advanced topics added, like adding in some more common Spanish words (like what Memrise has).

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/credunkulous

I don't believe it is 70 percent capability of reading written Spanish. If I am correct it used to say " you know ___% of (X) language" Which just means you have heard the words. This rating is something similar but with some added parameters and reasoning. It is true like people have said, you don't truly know the language through duolingo. They can't teach you everything. But through it, you have learned a lot of words and immersed yourself in a community of language learners like yourself and begun a long journey in to a world full of cultures that are different from your own.

I have no idea why people think this game has become easier. They just figured out how to make it easier FOR US. That is what we wanted them to do right? As loyal participants in Duolingo's fiscal adventures, all we ask of them is to give us a simple way to begin learning a new language. I believe they have done just that, and continue to improve on that.

Not a rant, just a note that I hope will humble some of you out of your rage fits.

felicitaciones por tu logro fluidez

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidSinghiser
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Maybe it's a difference in meaning. One is just the ability to read text and the other includes other abilities in the equation. I can read a lot more than I can write, speak, or understand from listening.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Feraz.I

I am apparently 53% fluent. I do not feel 53% fluent at reading, or writing or speaking or any other way you try to cut it!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jorge4890
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I think everyone of us know our level without taking account of what they say to us.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ReckHarvey

If only they added features we've been asking for.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elgatobandido
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We need a larger vocabulary here. At least 2500 words, not counting different conjugations of the same verb.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ReckHarvey

and actual genders for the flash cards, which seems like such a simple request.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sernstberger
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Mine has shown up as 56%. I have a golden Spanish tree, and have been doing this for nearly 2 years straight. Not sure what I need to do to raise it (more immersion?), or what the highest attainable percentage is here... or what it really means as far as this website is concerned. My husband hasn't yet finished his tree, and he is at 55%. Not sure that it makes much sense. Any thoughts on this?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/airn4116

It seems to me that its based on some really silly parameters. People of all levels are getting numbers all over the shop. No se preocupe! :P Just derive how you feel about what you know of the language based on how much you can understand and your ability to hold a conversation.

As long as you keep at it, that will only go up! Whereas this (kind of unnecessary <_<) feature seems to just go up and down almost randomly.

(i think it's based on your word strength but tbh, that system seems broken. There are very common and easy words that I'm certain I wouldn't make a mistake on that Duolingo says i have a 1 out of 4 on the strength.)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/loboblancodav

Para serte sincero, una aplicación, página web o algo digital, es simplemente una herramienta para que de una serie de datos y estadísticas para darte una "idea" de tu progreso, pero el mejor juez sin duda alguna eres tú mismo. Según mi % de fluencia es del 23% (o menos) pero yo sé que mi inglés es más que eso, ¡ no te deprimas por eso! estoy seguro de que, si le has estado poniendo todas las ganas de mundo y eres constante, entonces Duolingo está equivocado.

¡Saludos!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BryanAJParry
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IMO, if something doesn't really tell us anything or help us at all, DL should probably not bother with it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lindseygustad

Interesting...I'm only on level 7 of Spanish but my fluency percentage says 40%. Maybe it's partially based on how well you do in the lessons? I'm still reviewing what I learned in college so it's been very easy so far and I don't have any trouble with the lessons. Unlike Swedish, where I painfully pick my way through.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cathgrl
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Where do you see the fluency percentage? I've never seen it. I am new to DL.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BryanAJParry
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Top right hand side of your language page.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/truelefty
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Where? I can't find it

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GregTrotter

Duolingo are A/B testing this feature so you may not have it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/truelefty
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Oh, yet another A/B test!

Thank you :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BryanAJParry
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Jeez. I'm starting to think that Duolingo itself is an A/B test for Memrise and that we'll all wake up tomorrow to find that Duolingo's been scrapped.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EricRaphae

I do not really pay the percentage much attention. I judge myself more based on how well I can read stuff outside duo and my ability to interact with native speakers. It tells me "55%", but i feel it is way lower for me ..... for now

3 years ago