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It's rather weird they introduce mangent in listening, how was I supposed to know if I never got anything with it :/
i agree. you can't hear the "ent" ending, and they haven't taught us it to know it should be there. tricky tricky.
gabrielle- You shoud know hearing LES that it's plural, Mangent and mange are pronounced the same. You only have the article to guess.
I still can't hear the difference between le femme mange and les femmes mangent
The feminine singular for "les femmes" is "LA femme". If you focus on the start of the sentence, you should hear the difference between "LA" and "LES".
Well that works if you're using a feminine plural, but what if it were starting with a masculine plural? Then how do you tell the difference in sound. like( Les garcons mangent) In that case I don't think you would pronounce the "s" at the end of "garcons" since "mangent" does not start with a vowel. I'm guessing the only way you would be able to tell is in the context of a paragraph. It seems it would be so much simpler if the "s" were always pronounced at the end of plural words, but I guess I will just have to get over it. c'est la vie :)
It's in the pronunciation of "le" and "les". "le" sounds like "luh" and "les" sounds like "lay". That is how you tell the difference.
"Mange" is driving me insane. Can someone help me distinguish between mange manges mangez mangeons mangent?
You have almost everything to learn the conjugation of verb manger in indicative present:
- je mange, tu manges, il/elle mange, nous mangeons, vous mangez, ils/elles mangent
You do not pronounce the ent at the end of mangent or and other word that ends with ent. It would simple just be mange.
Only at the end of verbs does the suffix -ent not sound "an". But it does at the end of adjectives (différent, présent...) or adverbs (souvent, lentement...).
French verbs are extensively conjugated and the ending of the verb changes according to the grammatical person:
- "la femme mange" is singular
- "les femmes mangent" is plural
Look, in English, you know how to conjugate "I eat" and "he eats".
So, in French you also have to conjugate verbs; the trick is that French conjugations are far more extensive than English ones:
- je mange (I), tu manges (you, informal), il/elle mange (he/she/it), nous mangeons (we), vous mangez (you, formal or plural), ils/elles mangent (they)
I sweat I can hear a little "ah" in between femmes and mangent. Is that how it's meant to be pronounced?
What you hear is a 'schwa':
Whenever you hear a vowel sound at the end of a word ending in a mute -e, the reason is that the next word starts with a consonant sound that is more or less 'incompatible' with the previous consonant. this vowel sound is not 'a' but a shwa, with the sound [ə] (= 'a' in again).
You have to be aware that it is systematic in poetry and when people enunciate properly. It is a sign of formality and very much in use in the south of France.
- cette fille me plaît = [setə fijə mə plɛ]
How would you see the differents between fille and femme for the sentence?? I'm still kind of confused.
une femme = a woman
des femmes = women
une fille = a girl
des filles = girls
But if a sentence is feminine and there is more than one subject wouldnt you make it es not ent?
No sentence is feminine per se. Only nouns can be masculine or feminine and the adjectives modifying these nouns.
- les femmes blondes: "femmes" is feminine and plural, so the adjective "blondes" is feminine and plural
- les hommes blonds: "hommes" is masculine and plural, so the adjective "blonds" is masculine and plural
Verbs conjugations are related to the grammatical person, singular or plural, and the conjugations for "il" and "elle" are identical, as well as "ils" and "elles":
- la femme / elle mange
- l'homme / il mange
- les femmes / elles mangent
- les hommes / ils mangent
It is just a different accent, one which enunciates more precisely. The final part of "femmes" is pronounced with what is called a schwa. Such an accent is typical of southwest France. It is normal.
No, "woman" is singular; "women" is plural. It is "les femmes mangent". "Les femmes" is plural (the women) and "mangent" is the 3rd person plural conjugation of the verb "manger".
- numerals are: un (masc), une (fem) = one
- definite articles are: le (masc), la (fem), les (plural) = the
- indefinite articles are: un (masc), une (fem), des (plural) = a/an, [-]
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLURAL AND SINGULAR WORDS WHEN THEY ARE PRONOUNCED THE SAME EXACT WAY!!!!
The only difference is in the pronunciation of the article:
- singular: la femme = LAH
- plural: les femmes = LEH
The full conjugation of the verb "manger" in indicative present is given 8 times this very page; explanations also appear in the Tips & Notes at the bottom of the main lesson page; if you hover on "mangent", you should be able to access the conjugation tables as well.
If you don't see these on your screen, please use a PC.
At the end of "femmes", what you can hear (sounding 'uh') is a schwa.
It is a sign of careful enunciation, common in the south of France and required in versified poetry.
Please take a look at this: https://frenchcrazy.com/2013/04/the-french-schwa.html/
it sounds exactly like le therefore its impossible to tell the difference
"le" is masculine singular and pronounced [luh].
"les" is plural and pronounced [leh].
So there is not any room for confusion here.
Because with only "les femmes", you don't know they are married.
To translate "femmes" to "wives", you would need more context, like a possessive "nos/vos/leurs femmes" = our/your/their wives.
Focus on the article: LES sounds like [leh] and LA sounds like [lah].
Nous_ une orange. 1. manges 2. mangeons 3. mangez 4. mange 5. mangent
I'm always confused about these. What are the rules?
You have to learn conjugations with the pronouns:
je mange, tu manges, il/elle/on mange, nous mangeons, vous mangez, ils/elles mangent
I have a question, so if you have a plural like femmes, you will have to add s's in certain places like "les" and manges and stuff? I don't really get it! It's confusing!
The basic rules are these:
- all determiners, notably articles, are different in masculine (un/le), feminine (une/la) and plural (des/les).
- most nouns and adjectives get an -s for plural
- all verbs are conjugated according to personal pronouns:
-- singular: je mange, tu manges, il/elle mange -- plural: nous mangeons, vous mangez, ils/elles mangent.