https://www.duolingo.com/rashtrakut

How are people finding it to type in Ukaranian

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Personally I am struggling with the switching keyboards thing. Have added the Ukranian keyboard on my Windows 7 PC (have not yet tried it on Windows 8 and the language has not shown up in my app yet). But it is too much of a pain to type in the Kyrillic text. I wish there was a floating keyboard like the special characters in the other languages...and how Memrise and others implement it...so I can click on the letters on the screen. Without that I may reluctantly have to pause the process. Open for other suggestions...

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/susanstory
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Yes, it is a pain to keep switching keyboards. I'm using Google Input Tools. Google Translate has little keyboards so you can type in a language. It'd be nice if Duolingo could put a little keyboard like what Google Translate has.
Anyway, it was slower, but I did Ukrainian and I'll still do it, regardless of the pain of changing keyboards, due to my dad knew Ukrainian and I want to learn Ukrainian.

He never took any courses to learn Ukrainian. He just picked it up during his lifetime. He had a Ukrainian grammar book, a dictionary, a Ukrainian hymnal, a Ukrainian Bible, and basically conversed in Ukrainian every chance he got.

I think at the end of his life, he considered himself bilingual. At least in the hospital, they wrote "English and Ukrainian" but they had a question mark next to "Ukrainian".

He was also interested in other languages too and had Norwegian friends too, but I think he never got past "Kan du snakker Norsk?"

He knew "Bonjour" in French and that's about it. When he was 81, and I was 27, he told me how one time he went to the post office and said, "Un timbre, s'il vous plait" and he was really proud of himself. At the time, I was young and had no idea how he felt. I Now I'm starting to understand better how older people feel.
The only time I ever heard him admit he was old when he was on his deathbed, and he wagged his finger to the director of nursing, who looked to be about 25, and said to her, "You'll know what it's like when you get old."

I think those were prophetic words.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vytah
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  1. If all you want is a layout cheat sheet, launch On-Screen Keyboard (Win-R → type "osk" → Enter). You can also click on it to type.

  2. I have used MS Keyboard Layout Creator to create a custom phonetic keyboard layout, but I heard it doesn't work on Windows 8. There may be other phonetic keyboard layout available, Windows 8 might have one built-in.

  3. To quickly switch layouts, I assigned keyboard shortcuts for switching.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WordFitlySpoken
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I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but my on-screen keyboard is only coming up in English even though I have the input language set to Ukrainian. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

EDIT: Never mind, I got it to work now. For anyone else with this problem, I closed on-screen keyboard, opened it again, and then swapped to Ukrainian.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ACastle_10
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It has been really challenging for me. The language is hard enough, so adding on the need to learn a new keyboard layout makes it quite tedious. I am not going nearly as fast as I would like to be.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kaylastack
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I've been using the google input tools for chrome and I've found it very efficient. It's easy to remember which letter is which because you type what it sounds like, and switching between English and Ukrainian keyboards just requires CTRL+space. There are a few characters I haven't yet figured out how to romanize, but I'm sure a bit of googling should solve those problems quickly.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SteveLando
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Where do I find this google input tools for chrome?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kaylastack
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https://www.duolingo.com/SteveLando
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Oh:), of course, I thought it was something in the chrome, on the computer:) Sorry for that:)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BarryBryce
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I'm using the course on an Android device, which lets me swap keyboards by swiping the spacebar

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https://www.duolingo.com/rashtrakut
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On a browser or the app? It has not yet shown up in my app

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https://www.duolingo.com/BarryBryce
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Browser. Not just 100% as convenient as the app, but working fine :-)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rashtrakut
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Just tried it out with the SwiftKey keyboard.... Worked great.... Also discovered the need to download both the Ukrainian and Russian keyboards when I had to move to the English keyboard to get the і in дід

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Slayeb
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I added the keyboard on my Windows 8.1 laptop. It's super easy to switch keyboards to, all you do is click space + windows key. I've manually learned where all the keys are at by trial and error. It's a little frustrating learning where all the letters are, but now I find it rather easy to remember where they're at. The only key that is tricky to hit is Ґ and ґ because you have to hit ctrl and alt too. My real problem is learning to write by hand in Ukrainian. I don't understand why д looks like g. Nevertheless, I've got a Russian friend who know Ukrainian so it's not a big deal.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NicholasO12

I'm finding it really easy as I already know a fair bit of Russian and already well used to the Cyrillic keyboard. Having said that I know it was a real struggle for me to learn to type in Cyrillic when I first began learning Russian. And I put alot of emphasis on learning to type when I first began in Russian.

I will say getting Cyrillic language stickers for your keyboard is a must. Focus on learning where the letters are on the keyboard one at a time. C is the same in both English and Cyrilic. Annoyingly A is ф and F is А. Wonder who came up with that idea?

I would suggest starting learning the keyboard (asuming you are very famailiar with the english QWERTY keyboard) with the letters ав and олд as well as с. Then branching out to фіпрми before the key letters of the top row укенгш/ Also learn that я is in the bottom left corner where Z is early, as you will be using that letter alot when starting, And practice typing words often. Make a word document with lists of all the new Ukrainian words you come across. You don't need to know where every letter is, but know roughly where all the common letters are (in the top row .e.t.c. and then you just need to search whenever you come across rare letters. Thats how I did it, and now I can type at around 10 words per minute in Russian

The one letter I have had problems with in Ukrainian is ґ. I need to press control, alt and u simultaneously to produce this letter

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https://www.duolingo.com/xaghtaersis
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I switch to my phone and use that keyboard. I can just use the mobile site xD. I do Ukranian to work on my cyrillic.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jgstcd
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I'm finding it a lot easier since switching from the standard Cyrillic keyboard to the (slightly misnamed) phonetic variant. I'm not sure how to do that on Windows however.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bookrabbit
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It is easy to swap keyboards on my kindle, as long as I don't mind using the Turkish keyboard for typing English. Scrolling all the way to the English one would be a pain. Of course it would be even easier if I removed the other options, but I still use them.

Amazing, I think this is the first time the kindle comes out best!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/angus.shoppee

PSA: you can quickly switch keyboards on windows by pressing [windows-key]+space... sorry if that's obvious but I want to mention that just in case.

It seems i'm quite lucky with this course, as I'm using windows 8 on a touch screen laptop, so fortunately I'm able to use the Ukrainian keyboard in touch mode without having to worry about pressing the right keys. I haven't tried using the on-screen keyboard with the mouse, but I feel this may be too slow. On my computer, there's a little keyboard icon in the taskbar, bottom right, that you can click on to bring up a really large on screen keyboard which can handily be switched to ukrainian and back. I don't know if this is a touch screen only feature or not; there may be some way to force-enable it even if it is. I think the only painless to do this course, unfortunately, is to order a Ukrainian keyboard - which I think I shall do soon - or short of that, to cover the keys on a spare keyboard with Ukrainian stickers. The problem with the latter is that english keyboards are not wide enough to fit the " ґ " key. I hope you can find a way around this problem, удачі!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/notdeadluna
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I'm already somewhat familiar with the Russian keyboard layout so it's not really much of a problem for the most part.

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https://www.duolingo.com/stuffradio
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On a Mac computer, you can create your own shortcuts. I have a shortcut that allows me to easily switch between keyboards. I am using a windows keyboard on my mac mini, and I defined the Alt + Spacebar keys to switch languages.

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https://www.duolingo.com/rashtrakut
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I prefer using the PC (particularly for timed practice), but will likely stick to the phone for this (and Russian). So easy to swift keyboards on swiftkey. Looking forward to this showing up in the app

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