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This sentence alone has made me decide I can never use Esperanto outside of the internet. I would start laughing just trying to say mi fartas bone
Someone below suggests some native English speakers might want to use Mi sentas bone.
But that would basically be saying that your senses are working fine. Also, "senti" is transitive, so I don't think that that sentence is grammatically correct.
"Feel" as in "to have perception by touch or by any nerves of sensation other than those of sight, hearing, taste, and smell" , not "to perceive a state of mind or a condition of body", which is "farti". It is related to English "sentient", which means "having the power of perception by the senses; conscious". "Senti" in a English sentence is like this: I feel that Tammy 2 is here.
OK. I am only level two and going by dictionaries. I was working backwards from sento, 'feeling' but now I see it's in the sense of 'sensation' and not 'emotion'. As a lojban speaker would say, malglico. [Sorry, typo.] I've continued on your stream due to lack of space.
Or here in Sweden, where "Fartkontroll"(pronounced like "fart-control") means "Speedcheck"
Früher habe ich Esperanto gesprochen, wie Ihr. Und dann habe ich einen Pfeil ins Knie bekommen.
Geh zu Hause, Esperanto. Du bist betrunken.
:P
I know, I'm kind of annoyed about this word; I'll never be able to say it without worrying that other people are going to laugh.
I don't know why this was downvoted. For every errant downvote I'm donating one dollar to a genuine troll.
Downvoting is kind of thing here in Duolingo, people are just negative?! I don't know...
Yeah, it just gets to me a bit. The idea is that Duolingors are moderating the site themselves for free but downvotes are hardly ever based on what the guidelines say. People use them as agree/disagree buttons so unpopular opinions just disappear. It's just a pet peeve of mine. It's completely destroyed Reddit.
Hey, well if you wanted the infinitive, it's farti. and that literally means "To fair"
Now they not only accept your answer but list it as the preferred correct one! (How things change in just one week!)
They accepted it today (two days later). Still in beta and making changes, I guess.
Oooh, in Australia we actually use "to go" in this context as well. e.g. I'm going well, I'm going good, How are you going?
+1 for being an Aussie. On top of that, this is a widespread usage in the UK. I had to point this out on the Dutch list too where it was, apparently, news to all the Americans :-)
In America, the term "to go" is usually used in that sense by saying "it" instead of "you" or "me". Like, "how's it going?" "It's going good." As opposed to "how are you doing?"
I've always thought of "it" referring to the day, or something along those lines instead of the person being addressed. Like "How's it (your day) going?" With "going" of course meaning the passing of time. It still wouldn't literally mean "how are you" though, so it is similar to the Australian way of communicating this.
Notice they're mentioning it as an aside and not demanding it be included. Also, I'm yet to see any evidence of its widespread use in the UK. That's not what the voting system is for but have an upvote from me since the system is entirely ineffective.
English speakers tend to prefer the phrase "Mi sentas bone" as an alternative... for obvious reasons.
EDIT: "sentas" is the wrong word, I think I meant "sanas" (Kiel vi sanas?).
But that would basically be saying that your senses are working fine. Also, "senti" is transitive, so I don't think that that sentence is grammatically correct.
I'm glad you cleared this up. What would be the best way to express that you are alright emotionally with a verb?
The word used in the sentence of the discussion thread, "farti", or if you really wanted to, "bonfarti".
Hmm. OK. I can see you don't attach much weight of some of the English speakers unnecessary aversion to this word. I would try to suggest a few compound words but I don't think it would be right to butcher a language you've spent more time on than me.
Did some more searching, and found out that although Phillite's orginal sentence is incorrect, he could make it correct by saying "Mi sentas min bona", but I am not sure if the sentence would mean "I feel good (as in morally excellent; virtuous; righteous; pious)" or "I feel good (as in the adverb well)".
The people who named the planet Uranus didn't know English, so they didn't know it wouldn't sound good in English either. I'm guessing the same goes here for Esperanto?
Both William Herschel (discoverer and namer of Uranaus) and L.L Zamenhof (inventor of Esperanto and its verb ‘farti’) knew English. Apparently they just didn't care!
They rename it in the future (ama) to stop all these jokes: Urectum. Also, companies selling products internationally have an incredibly hard time giving their products names that don't have negative connotations somewhere on the planet so I imagine astronomers and linguists with more limited resources would probably just let it slide.
fun fact: originally, the discoverer and namer of Uranus wanted to call it George.
imagine if that was a thing... HEY I CAN SEE GEORGE FROM HERE! ...that doesn't really work. Unless you have a friend called george....
Now's the time to question whether I should continue learning Esperanto... "My fart has ❤❤❤❤❤" hahah
I think it should allow "i feel okay", since bone apparently means good/well/okay(feeling).
(it was marked wrong for me)
If not, what am I missing?
The word fartas specifically means "do" or "does". Bone is also an adverb. I guess "I feel okay" and "I'm doing well" mean almost the same thing, but I think DuoLingo wants to make sure you know the grammar of the sentence and why it's constructed this way.
Correction:"Fartas" means feel whereas "faras" means does/do. The closest "Fartas" can get to being do is doing because people sometimes use doing in a sentence to desribe their feelings.
Maybe because "I feel okay" is really only used when you are having an equal mix of good and bad things going on in your life or after you got close to seriously injuring yourself whereas "I am feeling well" is used when you are truly feeling great.
Yeah. "I feel okay" implies that actually you feel like cr** but you don't really want to go into it with that person.
Feelings can be deceptive - you can feel, well, but not actually be doing well. According to PIV (Plena Ilistrita Vortaro), the verb farti concerns your actual state of health. So we'd say in English, "I am well", "I am doing well", or even "I am healthy", although that would be "Mi estas sana" in Esperanto. "I feel well" would be "Mi sentas min bone".
the verb "farti" actually means "to fare", so literally, the sentence is: "I am faring well". It isn't the most colloquial saying in english, but it is in esperanto
No. Two things are wrong with that: one, you're saying "I IS", not "I AM". Two, you're saying "I is GOOD". We wouldn't say that in English, we would say "I am WELL". I'm guessing that bone is the Esperanto equivalent of well. Sorry if I get this wrong, I'm not very experienced with Esperanto.
"Mi estas bona" is wrong, but for a different reason. "Estas" can mean "am", "is" or "are". No, it's because "Mi estas bona" means "I am good", not "I feel well" or "I am doing well".
I would have thought that "I feel fine" should have been accepted as a translation. Any idea on why fartas doesn't mean "feel" in this sentence, but "I am fine" is? Really got me confused
So, apparently feeling well has to do with me farting whilst I have a.......anyways.... hilarious!!
I actually checked this discussion out because I thought everyone would be discussing why I heard "fatas", not "fartas". I was surprised I was that wasn't the case.
Thanks to this long thread, the mnemonics for this phrase are just to powerful to ever forget how to say something as trivial as "I'm fine".
I'm sure I'm gonna be ultra-sensitive at picking up a person's potential smirk whenever this expression is used in conversation.
Sigh. Hope I can control the urge not to burst into laughter.
I typed "I an doing well" by accident and my answer was considered wrong. The typo detection needs to improve!
"Faras" means to make or do something, for instance, "Mi faras mian laboron" ("I do my work") or "Li faris korbon por sia patrino" ("He made a basket for his mother").
"Fartas" means "to do" in the sense of how someone's getting on, as in "Kiel vi fartas?" ("How are you doing?" or just "How are you?")
Yes you could. "Kiel vi fartas? "Mi fartas bone", or simply "Bone, dankon".
Um............... is there Esperanto for this that I can actually say aloud without being laughed at......... lol seriously.
Say it as it is, but make sure you pronounce the r correctly, then it won't sound like a word for schoolchildren to giggle at!
