"Тридцять шість гривень"
Translation:Thirty-six hryvnias
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In order to know about construction of cases you need to know about declension groups in Ukranian and about soft/hard/mixed group. That's a really really complex topic. If you are that interested I may write the whole post about it. But do you really need it?
I think, there should be such a post. If you write one, I'll give you several lingots (that's all I can do for you now). I'm a native Ukrainian speaker, but I would be extremely disappointed if I were left with "it's far too complicated, don't bother yourself with it". We all are here to learn, and everyone's needs are different: there are businessmen or tourists who need a basic grasp, and there are linguists who want nitty-gritty details. Anyway, good luck with the post!
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There are three endings a genitive plural can get: -ів, -ей, and no ending. Feminine nouns almost never get -ів, masculine never get zero ending, apart from that the rules get a bit murky.
In case of гривня, you have a zero ending, then you have to use a soft sign (ь) to preserve in writing the palatisation of н, and then you add an e as an extra vowel to make it pronounceable.
The extra vowels in Ukrainian are о and е. I suspect е is used near palatalised consotants and о otherwise, but I bet there are counterexamples to that.
859
It's not just about gender, but declension group. There are masculine nouns, that end in a vowel, so they behave themselves similar to feminine nouns. Basically we have 8 different patterns of declension
949
You can find them in the web version of Duolingo (open duolingo.com in your browser). Non-staff-run courses do not have tips in the app.
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The pronunciation of цять at the end of numbers sounds to me like "set", and not, as i would expect, "tsyat". This has been consistent across all lessons. Is this the effect of the soft-sign?
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Yeah, that's stupid that some answers get accepted even though they should not. On the other hand, it works for English and some other European languages where 3 is something like "tre"/"tri", same as in Ukranian and Russian. I mean, they are really hard to screw up unless it is a typo :)
859
Well, that hapenned to me a lot in French course. (getting typos when those where in fact mistakes)