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Are we sure that this is a picture of parents...? And a grammar question

So, one of those beloved "choose the image that matches this word" questions yielded this:

Now, I understand that батько means father, and батьки means parents, but I could be wrong. (Someone please correct me if I am!) So...this picture doesn't actually represent parents, does it?

Secondly, can someone perhaps explain the use of the apostrophe in Ukrainian words? It seems kind of random to me and I've yet to see it come up in the tips and notes (I'm slogging my way through Letters 3).

Thanks! I'm enjoying Ukrainian so far, although I have to admit it's been difficult. Finally getting the hang of the letter sounds and typing, at least. :)

May 29, 2015

11 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SergioRuido

Yes, images sometimes seem confusing. It is something that we found with the DL image database - they do not always match the search requests exactly. I still remember some unexpected and funny results that I got when trying to add an image to quite straightforward and common nouns..)) We wish contributors could upload their own pics, but so far that is not an option :/

May 29, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WordFitlySpoken

Oh, I see. That seems like it would be frustrating. :/ Okay! Next time I come across it, I'll find the handy dandy report button.

May 30, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tatiana.mir

We use the apostrophe in Ukrainian words after "б, п, в, м, ф, р" before "ї, є, ю, я". Exsamples: п'ять, м'ясо, бур'ян, він б'є, комп'ютер....

May 31, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WordFitlySpoken

Thank you! Very nice to have a rule for that.

June 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tatiana.mir

I was glad to help

June 1, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JamesB84

Yeah, батько and тато mean father and dad respectively. The picture seems to be a mistake. I would report it. The apostrophe is used to let you know to pronounce both letters individually. Take the word м'ясо. The "m" and the "ya" are pronounced separately as opposed to mushed together. Someone else might be able to explain this better.

May 29, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WordFitlySpoken

Thank you, that makes perfect sense.

May 30, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TseDanylo

Do not report it, we cannot choose which exact picture we get and this can cause confusion. This is something you should report to the staff

December 12, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Vinnfred

JamesB84 explained correctly about how apostrophe influences pronunciation. If you were writing a dictation, you would hear that this word needs the apostrophe. But you are learning here how to write in Ukranian, so you just have to memorize which words have the apostrophe, it's just the part of their spelling

May 29, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WordFitlySpoken

Ahh, thanks! Now when I come across one of those "type what you hear" exercises, I'll remember that. :)

May 30, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TseDanylo

Another thing to remember is that ь makes the consonant soft (palatised) and the ' makes the consonant hard. For example, the word п'ю is not pronounced like the word "pew" because our tongue curls a bit when we pronounce the p. Compare the difference in the p in the word "pew" and "poo" (sorry this is the only example I could think of haha) because the apostrof is there, we pronounce the p as in "poo" and follow it with "you". A trick to do this is to keep your tongue flat and rested at the bottom of your mouth.

December 12, 2016
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