Malayalam for English speakers
I would like to help build the Malayalam for English speakers course. To those who don't have any idea about the language, Malayalam is the native language of the people who live in the south Indian state called Kerala.
Speakers of Malayalam are called Malayalis, and there are about 38 million native speakers. Kerala is pretty famous for its abundant natural beauty and is one of the top tourist spots in India. The state gets quite a lot of tourists and I have seen many of them wanting to learn Malayalam both online and offline. Many foreign nationals also tend to stay in Kerala for extended periods to chill, so knowing Malayalam would definitely help them. Malayalam would also help Indians who are working in Kerala but don't know the language.
There is sufficient demand for the language. I am willing to build this course, but I will need help.
If there are any Malayalis on DuoLingo, please respond. Let's do this. :)
Thank you, mate. Of course, it remains to be seen if Duo okays it. Need more Malayalam speakers here because the language is a bit complex. The standard dialect varies from the spoken one. Not to mention that the spoken version varies from place to place. :D
I can speak Malayalam quite fluently so tell me if you need any help, btw i''ve given you about 35 lingots to help if you need it :)
I can read write and speak both Malayalam and English, let me know if you need help.
How do you say something is better than something else. Like my house is better than your car.
നിന്റെ കാറിനേക്കാൾ എന്റെ കാറാണ് നല്ലത് (Ninte kaarinekaal ente kaaraanu nallathu) - My car is better than your car.
Can help but how much help is required? I am a Malayalam speaker, writer and can type it also. But unfortunately a very busy person.
I feel like most of the courses which have been developed were done by 3 to 4 contributors, but certainly it would be involved and like would require several hours of hard work every week - but if you could help that would be fantastic!
I'm afraid I can't help with building the course, but wanted to give you a bit of encouragement! I've got two co-workers plus another work-related person who are from Kerala, so I would be very interested in having a Malayalam course available.
Good luck :)
I speak some Malayalam, but I can't read any of it. My family is Malayali though, so I'd actually love a Duolingo course on it - if only to help me with my atrocious accent when I speak the language. ;)
It is quite complex to learn to read compared to other languages, but only due to the compound letters. If a duolingo course does not come out, you can make a quizlet or look one up. You just need the basic letters. You can make more sense of the compound letters that way.
I think that's a great idea. I actually have a couple of friends who speak the language, and I wouldn't mind learning a little bit of it myself.
I have been following this thread for long. It is so sad that fictional languages like Klingon is being prepared into a course. It hardly has any fluent speakers except a handful of nerds (sorry, but had to say it!). Malayalam has millions of speakers. I am ready to contribute for a course in Malayalam if it ever gets started.
Is there any way that we can bring more attention to this? I'm not very active on DuoLingo currently but that's because the language that i really want to learn (Malayalam) is not on it! I wonder if the group here could start compiling ideas/lesson plans in a google document maybe to kick off this course?
You guys should do that, i really want to learn malayalam fully because my family is from there. I want to be fully proficient in speaking
I support the idea and I will totally test it if I see the course. You will need to find other native/fluent speakers in both languages and I hope you succeed ! Good luck.
question - has the course been okayed by Duolingo - or how did you apply to be a Course Contributor?
As far as I know, not yet. It should be listed on https://incubator.duolingo.com when it goes to incubation. I applied through https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply. Malayalam is not mentioned in the list of languages, so I mentioned it in the 'enter other' option. Got a mail then saying, duolingo will get in touch once there is an opening, this was in August 2015.
I got the same thing except in 2018, so it looks like they haven't changed much on their decision of making a malayalam course which is really sad!
You got a Lingot for this, not only do I need more experience in Malayalam (which is sad since I'm from Kerala), but the language needs to be more mainstream.
Have you read the novel The God of Small Things? You should check it out. Good luck!
I'm very interested to learn malayalam. I think it's an amazing idea. Amma is my Spiritual Mother and I'd like to be able to speak malayalam with her in darshan. Thank you!
I am a Malayali and I can definitely help build this course. I really hope that Malayalam for English speakers becomes an actual course.
Malayali here. Eager to help. But I do not see it in the list of languages one can contribute to in the application website. So, as soon as it goes up we can all contribute!
Has anyone ever heard of Mango languages? I came to know of it very recently and was amazed- it is a language learning platform like Duolingo, but has more than 10x the languages Duolingo offers, including Malayalam! The curriculum also seems very developed. It looks like what this community has been waiting for these past years already exists! Very good user interface as well.
Only downside is that it is not completely free to everybody- it is free through certain public libraries in the U.S. and Canada. If you do have access to these libraries and want to use Mango languages you must pay around U.S. $175 per year :(
Regardless the app has a free trial/first lesson is free or something- try downloading it and see what you think!
I am a Malayali and am willing to help in developing the course contents. I had submitted an application to Duolingo for setting up a Malayalam course and there was no follow-up.
Same here. Apparently Duo prioritizes courses differently than we all think. If you have noticed, there is no Persian in Duolingo even though it is an important language. They have Turkish but not Persian and that makes no sense. Any attempt to contact Duo in this regard is met with silence. I tried on social media as well. Zero response.
Thank you so much for offering to help!
This sounds wonderful, I'd love to see more Indian languages on Duolingo!
Eventually, a language representing the Dravidian family should be added. Tamil and Telugu will be strong contenders, but I'd be more interested in your language (at least the basics) because Kerala is an interesting destination that I hope to visit one day.
Agreed! Malayalam should become a priority language; we should bring ask friends who share our desire to come here and vote for the original post, and also seek out individuals who are fluent in both languages and could potentially offer to help - the more people we ask the more likely we'll find the person we need.
love to see it happen. Ive been to Kerala twice now, and would love to learn it. Too bad I can not help!
Any language that distinguishes between /t̪ /, /t/, and /ʈ/ is one I’d call a worthy challenge, especially if it’s spoken in the state with the highest literacy rate in India.
I am a Malayali in Ireland and I'm learning Irish and Spanish and hoping to learn my native language Malayalam sooner or later. I've given 3 lingots. I'm not sure how to help.
Holy ❤❤❤❤, there are Malayalis in Ireland? I had no idea but it makes sense. Do you speak Gaelge?
I just donated all my lingots (13) or this application. I hope you will achieve this wonderful goal!
I can help with that. I am a native speaker of Malayalam. I was thinking about posting a similar thread couple of days ago but then thought may be there will be already one. Did you apply to Duolingo to start the course?
Yes, I had quite a while back. I guess they're still waiting for enough number of people to sign up
I believe the original poster has applied for the incubator. Only when Duo approves it, the course will start to be built. We all can then contribute as native speakers.
i am a malayalee, but i cannot read or write it. i also wish i could understand it a little bit more. this would definitely help a lot!!
As a language enthusiast, I'd love to have Malayalam on Duolingo. Considering how widely its speakers are spread on the globe, it is worth learning.
When will this course be ready? I can talk Malayalam fluently but cant speak it so I'm looking very forward to this.
If anyone can help me with Malayalam, I appreciate it. I've been studying a few months now.
There is a book available at archive.org for learning Malayalam. Here it is - https://archive.org/details/VidvanC.L.MeenakshiAmmaLearnMalayalamIn30Days/page/n13
I am fluent in Malayalam and I would like to help you with building the course. P.S do i have to type in malayalam while applying to be a course contributer or does manglish qualify ?
We all would love to help but sadly the course isn't started yet. We have been waiting for 3 years now.
I'd love to take this course! I know how to read Malayalam but I'm bad at speaking and writing, so this course would be very helpful. Thanks!
I'd really love to learn this language, and I reckon it could be implemented due to the new character learning software (like that used in Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Hindi)
Wow, I sincerely hope Duolingo will make this happen! My parents are from South Kerala (Nilambur and Rani) and speak fluent Malayalam, but I was born in the United States and speak very little of it. I would love to learn the letters and more words in Malayalam. Please let me know if you need any help, I can ask my parents and my brother (who takes Malayalam classes) to help out through my account.
We have all been waiting for this. But I am not sure how the website operates when it comes to starting new courses. I gave a request to start this but there hasn't been any response. The funny part is that they have a course in Klingon which is fictional.
I wonder if the company that runs this is looking for the appeal of the language to a predominately American audience? If this is the case, they are unlikely to select Malayalam, ever.
If you look through the admin posts on the incubator, there is a section where they explain that they are unlikely to do Malayalam in the near future. They say it's because the language is difficult to capture because there are many different ways to speak it (or something along those lines). It's very unfortunate and I think we should keep asking for it, but in the mean time, Mango languages has a Malayalam course.
Hey guys, I have an instagram account @eli.kutty I post lessons, flashcards, and writing practice. Follow me there and give some feedback and we can try to study together. Also, I like chatting with native speakers for practice.
I am still waiting for this. Three years on and still no Malayalam course on Duoliingo.. nobody seems to care :(
Since duolingo is not interested, I thought I should share this with you. There is a book now available at archive.org for those who are interested in learning Malayalam.
Jebas, there is a book now available at archive.org for those who are interested in learning Malayalam.
Ah well. A lot of Malayalam speakers are willing to contribute. Unfortunately, Duo is more interested in developing fictional and overrated languages like Klingon and High Valyrian. I have no idea how they prioritize.
As a Malayali I'm going to have to disagree with you, while I do agree that Duo ought to add languages such as Malayalam (the faster the better), I don't think fictional languages are overrated. For example, as a self-labelled geek, I would absolutely love to learn a language like Kryptonian. I don't think these constructed languages are overrated but rather absolutely fascinating. Don't get me wrong, I love "real" languages, especially how they evolved, but I think conlangs are also super cool
You are right. Common people outside the "geek" culture have practically no interest in fictional languages like Klingon (which also has a limited scope as the vocabulary of it is mostly limited to stuff like spacecraft, warfare etc.) There are constructed languages such as Esperanto (which both of us are learning) that are spoken in the real world.
Sure, fictional languages are nice to learn as academic interest or for "geek culture" stuff but prioritizing them over real world languages seems a bit too much. Klingon is probably of zero interest outside Star Trek. Similarly, outside of Game of Thrones fandom, I have no reason to believe that anyone would be interested in High Valyrian.
Even though I do not know how Duo prioritizes languages, I have reasons to believe that Duolingo has conducted some form of research to see which all languages are people actually interested to learn. Malayalam has 38 million speakers but we have no data about how many foreigners actually want to learn it. Perhaps Duo has the data and they decided that may be it is not a project they want to take up in the near future.
It is possible that more people want to learn Klingon and High Valyrian because of Star Trek and Game of Thrones. There is no equivalent TV series that features Malayalam that would draw people to learn the language.
These are just my thoughts. By all means learn Kryptonian or High Valyrian or whatever fictional languages you like. I am nobody to discourage you.
Don't forget to vote (saying cuz i didnt get that this was where we were supposed to)
For all those people who can help as much as the can, go to the incubator and sign up.
I would be happy to help, but can't write and read very well. I can speak fluently though. Hope it helps! Good luck :)!!!
I would love to help but sadly even as a native speaker I can only speak and listen but not read or write.
great ideas its good that you had brought this up i am a native malayali living in the uk speaking fluent malayalam but cant read or write that well wish you can do this as soon as possible just started on duolingo today best wishes
No use. I have sent them two reminders about the existence of this thread. I also gave a formal request in the Incubator. No response as of now from Duolingo. The funny thing is that they have created a Klingon course. That's a language with hardly two dozen speakers. They should give more priority to Malayalam which has 38 million speakers. I don't understand their logic at all. But then it is a private company. All we can do is request. Sadly.
Are there other services that help us learn using similar methods? We should not feel like this is the only place we can go to for Malayalam.
Mango Languages has a Malayalam course in place. I have been learning through that, and it's not as easy to use as Duolingo, but it looks like a good course. They have an app, but can also be accessed from their website.
I am malayalam and I would help with this course. Hope to see it comes soon
I've tried so many times to learn Malayalam as a kid. But my parents would often be too busy with work to continue my classes or I would get distracted. It sucks not knowing how to read/write your mother tongue. It's also super hard to talk with family back in India too.
As a native speaker of Malayalam, I can say that it is a great language. Unlike other languages, Malayalam lacks grammatical genders and subject verb agreement. Those are the easiest aspects of Malayalam. The hardest parts are learning the alphabets of Malayalam since there are many. But the good thing is you can learn the pronunciations of other languages much more faster if you speak Malayalam.
I would like to learn it, as I have met nice people who speak it, here in the UK, and that is always a motivation :-) But whoever does, please look at the courses that teach other scripts, because some do it well, and some not so well. The Arabic course seems very good, so far. The Hebrew course, (last time I looked), totally failed to teach the letters and sounds. The Greek course is good, and the Japanese course does a decent job, as far as I have got. The Hindi course is incredibly frustrating, because the transcription into English is so poor. I can relate the sounds to the script, (which is already challenging), but not to the English equivalents. Please learn from these courses and make one that will take you from the very basics to something much higher. :-)