Malayalam for English speakers
I would like to help build the Malayalam for English speakers course. To those who don't have any idea about the language, Malayalam is the native language of the people who live in the south Indian state called Kerala.
Speakers of Malayalam are called Malayalis, and there are about 38 million native speakers. Kerala is pretty famous for its abundant natural beauty and is one of the top tourist spots in India. The state gets quite a lot of tourists and I have seen many of them wanting to learn Malayalam both online and offline. Many foreign nationals also tend to stay in Kerala for extended periods to chill, so knowing Malayalam would definitely help them. Malayalam would also help Indians who are working in Kerala but don't know the language.
There is sufficient demand for the language. I am willing to build this course, but I will need help.
If there are any Malayalis on DuoLingo, please respond. Let's do this. :)
I have been following this thread for long. It is so sad that fictional languages like Klingon is being prepared into a course. It hardly has any fluent speakers except a handful of nerds (sorry, but had to say it!). Malayalam has millions of speakers. I am ready to contribute for a course in Malayalam if it ever gets started.
Is there any way that we can bring more attention to this? I'm not very active on DuoLingo currently but that's because the language that i really want to learn (Malayalam) is not on it! I wonder if the group here could start compiling ideas/lesson plans in a google document maybe to kick off this course?
As far as I know, not yet. It should be listed on https://incubator.duolingo.com when it goes to incubation. I applied through https://incubator.duolingo.com/apply. Malayalam is not mentioned in the list of languages, so I mentioned it in the 'enter other' option. Got a mail then saying, duolingo will get in touch once there is an opening, this was in August 2015.
Has anyone ever heard of Mango languages? I came to know of it very recently and was amazed- it is a language learning platform like Duolingo, but has more than 10x the languages Duolingo offers, including Malayalam! The curriculum also seems very developed. It looks like what this community has been waiting for these past years already exists! Very good user interface as well.
Only downside is that it is not completely free to everybody- it is free through certain public libraries in the U.S. and Canada. If you do have access to these libraries and want to use Mango languages you must pay around U.S. $175 per year :(
Regardless the app has a free trial/first lesson is free or something- try downloading it and see what you think!
Agreed! Malayalam should become a priority language; we should bring ask friends who share our desire to come here and vote for the original post, and also seek out individuals who are fluent in both languages and could potentially offer to help - the more people we ask the more likely we'll find the person we need.
Same here. Apparently Duo prioritizes courses differently than we all think. If you have noticed, there is no Persian in Duolingo even though it is an important language. They have Turkish but not Persian and that makes no sense. Any attempt to contact Duo in this regard is met with silence. I tried on social media as well. Zero response.
There is a book available at archive.org for learning Malayalam. Here it is - https://archive.org/details/VidvanC.L.MeenakshiAmmaLearnMalayalamIn30Days/page/n13
Wow, I sincerely hope Duolingo will make this happen! My parents are from South Kerala (Nilambur and Rani) and speak fluent Malayalam, but I was born in the United States and speak very little of it. I would love to learn the letters and more words in Malayalam. Please let me know if you need any help, I can ask my parents and my brother (who takes Malayalam classes) to help out through my account.
If you look through the admin posts on the incubator, there is a section where they explain that they are unlikely to do Malayalam in the near future. They say it's because the language is difficult to capture because there are many different ways to speak it (or something along those lines). It's very unfortunate and I think we should keep asking for it, but in the mean time, Mango languages has a Malayalam course.
Since duolingo is not interested, I thought I should share this with you. There is a book now available at archive.org for those who are interested in learning Malayalam.
Jebas, there is a book now available at archive.org for those who are interested in learning Malayalam.
As a Malayali I'm going to have to disagree with you, while I do agree that Duo ought to add languages such as Malayalam (the faster the better), I don't think fictional languages are overrated. For example, as a self-labelled geek, I would absolutely love to learn a language like Kryptonian. I don't think these constructed languages are overrated but rather absolutely fascinating. Don't get me wrong, I love "real" languages, especially how they evolved, but I think conlangs are also super cool
You are right. Common people outside the "geek" culture have practically no interest in fictional languages like Klingon (which also has a limited scope as the vocabulary of it is mostly limited to stuff like spacecraft, warfare etc.) There are constructed languages such as Esperanto (which both of us are learning) that are spoken in the real world.
Sure, fictional languages are nice to learn as academic interest or for "geek culture" stuff but prioritizing them over real world languages seems a bit too much. Klingon is probably of zero interest outside Star Trek. Similarly, outside of Game of Thrones fandom, I have no reason to believe that anyone would be interested in High Valyrian.
Even though I do not know how Duo prioritizes languages, I have reasons to believe that Duolingo has conducted some form of research to see which all languages are people actually interested to learn. Malayalam has 38 million speakers but we have no data about how many foreigners actually want to learn it. Perhaps Duo has the data and they decided that may be it is not a project they want to take up in the near future.
It is possible that more people want to learn Klingon and High Valyrian because of Star Trek and Game of Thrones. There is no equivalent TV series that features Malayalam that would draw people to learn the language.
These are just my thoughts. By all means learn Kryptonian or High Valyrian or whatever fictional languages you like. I am nobody to discourage you.
i am a native hindi speaker and would like to learn the language out of no other reason but personal interest. This application has much to offer. It really helps to get languages ingrained in your memory. If you and some others can team up that would be brilliant. If you can really get this course done, I can guarantee, I will be one of the first to join!
I think there should be a lot more languages in general, but YES! I would love to see Malayalam in Duolingo! I don't speak the language, although I believe that if Duolingo is gonna have High Valarian, a language from GAME OF THRONES, it should at least have languages that people in the world speak as a native language, and should look for more languages that people want to see on the language selection page. I'm happy that you're willing to put in the time to teach someone a new language. I hope Duolingo adds Malayalam to their language selection. : )
I'm a Malayalee born in an English-speaking country and unfortunately my parents didn't see the value of teaching their mother tongue to their children. Even more unfortunate is that many Malayalees overseas believe the same thing, there are thousands of us with Malayalee heritage that have little to no ability to communicate in Malayalam. On top of that is the lack of resources for studying Malayalam. You can find hundreds of resources for studying any of the top languages at all different levels, but what can an adult learner find for Malayalam? There is very little high quality materials out there. If DuoLingo were to be the first quality free course in Malayalam, I know thousands would take it up from across the world for years to come.
Have you heard about Elikutty? She an American married to a Malayaali, she is teaching the Basics of Malayalam with the help of some Malayaalis. As long as there are no enough resources for learning Malayalam, I believe we should support all small resources people are making. Check her IG account ( https://instagram.com/eli.kutty?igshid=1oa581rr447ua )
Has the course started yet? I wish to learn Malayalam. Super initiative by the OP!
I was wondered when I was first found out that how my native language (Malayalam) is connected to Portuguese language. Until this time I didn't know that I was using some words in my day to day life which is actually Portuguese. So I researched more about this topic Which is very interesting you must check that out Here Maybe you are also using some words which is taken from other languages. Always be curious Language lover
No use. I have sent them two reminders about the existence of this thread. I also gave a formal request in the Incubator. No response as of now from Duolingo. The funny thing is that they have created a Klingon course. That's a language with hardly two dozen speakers. They should give more priority to Malayalam which has 38 million speakers. I don't understand their logic at all. But then it is a private company. All we can do is request. Sadly.
As a native speaker of Malayalam, I can say that it is a great language. Unlike other languages, Malayalam lacks grammatical genders and subject verb agreement. Those are the easiest aspects of Malayalam. The hardest parts are learning the alphabets of Malayalam since there are many. But the good thing is you can learn the pronunciations of other languages much more faster if you speak Malayalam.
I would like to learn it, as I have met nice people who speak it, here in the UK, and that is always a motivation :-) But whoever does, please look at the courses that teach other scripts, because some do it well, and some not so well. The Arabic course seems very good, so far. The Hebrew course, (last time I looked), totally failed to teach the letters and sounds. The Greek course is good, and the Japanese course does a decent job, as far as I have got. The Hindi course is incredibly frustrating, because the transcription into English is so poor. I can relate the sounds to the script, (which is already challenging), but not to the English equivalents. Please learn from these courses and make one that will take you from the very basics to something much higher. :-)
Help & Vote for MALAYALAM using the Link if it is not a bother. I have created a new Post about the Language along with its Cultural History. ബുദ്ധിമുട്ടാകില്ലെങ്കിൽ മലയാളത്തിനുവേണ്ടി സഹായിക്കുക. ഞാൻ മലയാളഭാഷയെക്കുറിച്ചും അതിന്റെ സാംസ്കാരിക ചരിത്രത്തെക്കുറിച്ചും ഒരു പുതിയ പോസ്റ്റ് സൃഷ്ടിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ട്...
I do not really speak Malayalam, but i am from India and i speak in Telugu. And I would LOVE to learn Malayalam. And i am intrested in learning all 22 languages in India because i just love learning languages, expecially on duolingo. So i hope you finish the application soon enough and succeed! Good Luck with that application!!!
Of course all of us support you. Our language will die out if we don't do something constructive. Till recently even I was intimidated by the language . As a malayali out of kerala , I always felt that there is a need for a course that is interactive and engaging and suitable for even the average person . Hatsoff to your thoughts.
They can use this flag. https://www.google.com/search?q=kerala+flag&sxsrf=ALeKk03a42U3c7yE-1rCHv7Ryw4Bj6miA:1603281875740&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=vYrJ2wp-jdny9M%252CwxZqWbBOP-4n7M%252C&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kTEqxatpkNIJVwsJYl0EDJcDKBefg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjChba10sXsAhWPjFkKHYEiCsMQ9QF6BAgMEFY&biw=1280&bih=662#imgrc=vYrJ2wp-jdny9M
Hello there! It's nice to know you guys are interested in Malayalam, try using mango languages. It's better if you know someone who could talk to you in malayalam. I know it might not be possible, but I would recommend it for a fast progress. -from a fellow malayali :-)
Well, I am surrounded by Malayalis; therefore the interest. Otherwise, I think I wouldn't have known about your language. But sadly, this method hasn't been working much. I know some words but I need help with the grammar in order to start making sentences. Anyways, I appreciate the suggestion. I downloaded the app and checking the content out. Thanks a lot!
It has been years since I first saw this message from a Malayalee offering his help to Duolingo to develop a Malayalam course. Many more messages were written. I, and I know others, have been patiently waiting for so long.
While we wait, would some of you volunteers be interested in developing a course with another organization? Recently I've tried Spanish through Language Transfer (https://www.languagetransfer.org/). It's completely volunteer and donation-run. Their all-audio courses are in the style of Pimsleur, Michel Thomas, etc. Though they're not as "fun" as Duolingo, I personally find them far better in terms of preparing a language learner for real-world conversations, using a "listen and respond" method, coupled with spaced repetition. They just released a book (available as a free pdf here: https://www.languagetransfer.org/othermaterial), but if you try one of their courses, I'm sure you will understand how it all works. They are looking for more volunteers to develop courses for other languages. Why not Malayalam too?
I would be forever grateful if I could find an all-audio course for Malayalam! I can't wait for Duolingo any longer; I've just started my Malayalam-learning journey this year.
P.S. To Malayalam language learners: With the scarcity of Malayalam-learning resources, I thought I'd also share one I found: Mango languages has an online course (https://mangolanguages.com/) for Malayalam! I just started it, but it looks like it can bring one up to a High Beginner level, good for some simple conversations. Unfortunately is has a rather high subscription price, but it is free through many organizations (I use it free through my public library membership).
I really want to improve in the language as a fellow Malayali, I do hope Duolingo will add a Malayalam course since it can help many students or even travellers get better in the language.
I am not born a Malayalee but my husband is and I have lived in Kerala for many years. I learned my Malayalam by listening to the sounds when people spoke then asked them what it ment. When I had the sound in my mind I understood what they were saying when I heard the same words again. For over 40 years I have managed like this but I want to learn Malayalam in more depth in a similar way I am learning french on Duolingo. Please make this course happen - I think a lot of people would value it.