"Mi trovis tiun ĉi retejon hieraŭ, kiam mi retumis."
Translation:I found this website yesterday, when I was surfing the internet.
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We need a better translation of retumis. No one says they're "Surfing the internet" anymore.
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Lots of people on the information superhighway still say "surfing the internet". Maybe you're just not hanging out with all the cool people in cyberspace?
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Dutch has turned internet into a verb: internetten. Should be even easier in English. But I haven't come across it yet.
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I think in English you typically just say you "went on the internet" or you "were on the internet". So in this sentence, it could just be "when I was on the internet".
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Nobody I know even says internet in any context but a rhetorical answer for "where'd you find that?". Everything else is "on the computer", "searching/looking up/Googling", just using a program or playing a game, and being "online".
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Interesting... I don't think it's that extreme where I am, although now you have me wondering if I'm just forgetting that usually "on the internet" becomes "online" here, as well. I do know, at least, that "internet" is still used to describe the internet itself, of course. For example, if someone is having internet issues, they will describe that using the word "internet" still.
It now accepts "web surfing," which is what most people say around here, a stone's throw from MIT.
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"Netting" or "browsing" are generally understood. Especially while on-line.
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It's interesting that Dutch has come up with a word, but English hasn't, given that we usually just add an 'ing' ending to any noun to make new verbs (texting, googling, etc.). I haven't heard 'internetting' being used as a word in English!
Maybe we should start it. Someone has to :)
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In Spanish it's navegar, which means sailing. Also many people use the verb usar to use, followed by the specific site they were on or the word internet. So: usar el face to be on facebook, usar google or googlear is googling, usar internet to surf, etc.
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I often hear people use: when I was web browsing or when I was online.
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Well, this was my take on it:
Translate this text
Mi trovis tiun ĉi retejon hieraŭ, kiam mi retumis.→ I found this webpage yesterday, when I web surfed.
Almost correct!
I found this web page yesterday, when I web surfed.Another correct solution:
I found this website yesterday, when I was surfing the internet.
so, basically
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ret'ej'o web page, a web page
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ret'um'i web surf, to web surf
Then again, I guess I'm ... old?
(I was already an adult, when InterNet arrived to each and every home, in the 1990's.)
So retejon is website and retpaĝo is webpage? In English, I just usually think they're synonyms, so I wasn't sure how to differentiate in Esperanto 8-o
ETA: also retumi clearly has ret as part of its roots, but I don't recognise -um? Suddenly curious!
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retejo = website, like www.duolingo.com (and all pages on this domain, including the internal database)
retpaĝo = webpage, part of a website, like
https://www.duolingo.com/skill/eo/Verbs:-Conditional/2
In practice you often make no sharp distinction, used as synonyms, yes.
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I suppose the hejmpaĝo would be a clear example of a retpaĝo that is obviously different from a retejo.
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reto == net, network; and since -ej == place, retejo == network place, which seems more broad than retpagxo == web page.
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"retejo" and "retpaĝo" are synonyms.
And you're right about "retumi"! The suffix "-um" doesn't have much of a well-defined meaning, but in verbs it means something like "do something related to".
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I don't think treating retejo and retpaĝo as synonyms would be a good idea. A website is a collection of webpages, thus retejo would be a collection of retpaĝoj.
ohhhhh now you say that I think I may have seen um in some lists of affixes! thanks :-D
I think surfing the internet carries the idea of looking around at multiple pages and sites, exploring, while one can be online continuosly on one site and do no exploring at all. This goes back to when people had "home pages", so surfing was looking at home made web pages.. This predates filling your online time chatting on facebook, twitter, whatsapp, or any of the modern, real time, text/video chatting systems.
You can get constantly changing input from many people now while staying on one site, so no reason to surf.
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because while translates from 'dum'. indicating duration. While similar, they are not the same.
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Mi scias, ke mi muŝbugras, sed...
If I understand correctly, ret- means "network something", and is used, like in English, as a shortcut for "internet something" (interret-). But the word for "web something" is rather TTT- than ret-.
So retejo is literally an internet site, and thus, could be a gopher site, an FTP site or an IRC site.
... or Esperanto is not as logical as it pretends to be and retejo just means "website" and not "internet site"?
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Mi pensas, kial 'retumi' kaj ne 'retuzi' por surfado la interreto, ĉar precize, ni uzas la reto, ĉu ne?
