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There is a way to tell, but it's subtle.
The singular, "il lit", sounds like "il lee".
The plural, "ils lisent", sounds like "il leese".
This helps a lot, but I still mess up from not being able to hear the lady clearly. Thank you, though!
KaitlinMS said:
The singular, "il lit", sounds like "il lee".
The plural, "ils lisent", sounds like "il leese".
Well if the first letter of the next word is a vowel, you pronounce the 's' in 'ils' For example: "Ils ecrivent une lettre", sounds like "il suh-criv" (or ils ecriv)
Thanks! I see, you can get it from the ending in third person plural, because one pronounces the 's' in 'lisent'. Has nothing to do with the pronoun in this case.
Often consonants will only be pronounced if they have a vowel following them. This is why "lis" is pronounced "lee" and "lisent" is pronounced "leese". There are exceptions but you will be more often correct if you drop the consonants at the end of words.
I got that it was supposed to be "Ils lisent" based on her emphasis of the conjugation of the verb "lire", which sounded like "leeze." That emphasized "S" indicated the tense of the verb, which was to be the hint for the pronoun.
What I DIDN'T get, however, was the article in front of "lettre," which sounded and continues to sound like "les" not "la". It totally sounds like she's saying "lay", which would indicate the plural "les" to me. Le sigh (or should I say les sighs?)
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I could not discern whether the audio was "la" lettre or "les" lettres. I listened a few times, and it was challenging for me to hear the article before the noun.
with this auto voice it is hard to tell "lis" from "lisent" or "mange" from "mangent"
There's actually no difference between the pronunciation of "mange" and "mangent". In a conversation, you can only tell from the context of the rest of the sentence.
Google Translate is a pretty good place to listen to pronunciations: http://translate.google.com/#en/fr/He%20eats.%0AThey%20are%20eating.
Forvo is better, because on Google, they're bots, on Forvo they're human beings.
I agree with the OP - from this audio snippet, how are we supposed to guess that this is plural? Is there some subtlety of the pronunciation that gives it away?
That's a good question. In this case we could probably substitute "ils" for "elles", but I guess that's just not what Duolingo is looking for here.
In case you didn't know, "ils" is used for both a group of men and a mixed group of men and women. "Elles" is only used for a group of women.
I typed "They read a letter" but the correct answer was "They are reading a letter". I thought both can be right.
How do you know if it should be Elles or Ils - Ils was used with la lettre and Elles was used with une lettre
il lis is pronounced il li
ils lisent is prnounced il liz
(the is here are long - what English speakers tend to transcribe as ee)
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You learn that as part of learning each noun, le for male, la for female. For example: La voiture is car, le arbre is tree. Also, some nouns can be masculine or feminine: le chat is a male cat, la chatte is a female cat. The male/female choice is not always intuitive, not always based on the nature of the noun. Hope this helps.
When im correct it says im not ..so frustrating ..as i keep getting the same question
would it maybe be a good idea to add some grammar concepts in with the translation questions, like maybe make some grammar questions too Mainly for: -Irregular verbs -Infinite verbs -le, la, les l' -un, une
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I donot understand why in this lettre is preceded by "la" while I find the word lettre is masculine. Can any body help me to understand.
