"I need to know the truth."
Translation:Mi bezonas scii la veron.
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"Koni" is basically for knowing people. "Scii" is for knowing facts.
It looks like you know a few languages with this distinction, so:
- "koni" is like French "connaître", Swedish "känna", Spanish "conocer"...
- "scii" is like French "savoir", Swedish "veta", Spanish "saber"...
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thanks a lot, i was just confused by the english word "know" which is the same in both cases
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In Spanish we can perfectly say 'conocer la verdad' so the problem remains
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Could you use "koni" in the biblical sense, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Yes, why would Esperanto, which professes to simplify and regularize the romance languages, want to preserve unnecessary complexity like this? It's another hidden rule not in the grammar. Why not just use the same word for all kinds of knowledge instead of inventing arbitrary exceptions?
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Obviously "la veron" isn't a person here, but "koni" is also used to express being acquainted with some idea.
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I just now confirmed that using koni in the translation of this sentence is accepted by Duo as correct.
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I know it's old but it might help someone.
Scii means "have knowledge of" (a fact, an information, an opinion etc.)
Example: I need to have knowledge of the truth.
Koni refers to "being acquainted with" (someone, an animal, a place etc.)
Example: Sofia? Yes, I am acquainted with her.
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"Mi volas scii la veron!" "VI NE POVAS TRAKTI LA VERON!" https://youtu.be/9FnO3igOkOk
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I did not know three of the esperanto words needed for this answer. I got it right ;)
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I've never heard the word, "scii" in any of the recordings. How does it sound?
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It sounds a bit like "suh tsee ee". Every letter is pronounced. I have quite a bit of difficulty pronouncing it.
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It is tricky. I found saying it over and over very slowly and gradually saying it faster helped a lot.
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I found it helps me to practice 'sc' with words like 'bests' and 'firsts', that end in the 'sc' sound while sounding "natural" because they're in my native language.
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Just say "est-see-ee", without the first E in est.
Phonetic breakdown (this always helps me):
S: S. This is where the S in the "est" comes from.
C: Ts. This is where the "t" in est and "s" in see come from.
I: Ee. This is where the two ees come from, the - is a slight pause.
Stsee-ee. It's difficult, I know.
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Try saying "sit-see" and then shorten the "i" in "sit." It will sound like "stsee."
Where does "bezonas" come from? I never remember it because I can't connect it to anything.
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There is a pic on the Net of two people standing there covered in bees. I think, "we need bees on us" to remember this one.
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"Havas" is for possession. In English "have" and "got" are kind of sloppy, and have several uses, but it Esperanto, you don't "have to know" using havas. You can say "I must know" or "I need to know", which is what the English phrase really means.
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Devi is when you have an obligation to do something: "Mi devas fari kukon por la festo." Bezoni is when you have a need for something: "Mi bezonas pecon da kuko!"
