"I need to know the truth."
Translation:Mi bezonas scii la veron.
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"Koni" is basically for knowing people. "Scii" is for knowing facts.
It looks like you know a few languages with this distinction, so:
- "koni" is like French "connaître", Swedish "känna", Spanish "conocer"...
- "scii" is like French "savoir", Swedish "veta", Spanish "saber"...
thanks a lot, i was just confused by the english word "know" which is the same in both cases
In Spanish we can perfectly say 'conocer la verdad' so the problem remains
Obviously "la veron" isn't a person here, but "koni" is also used to express being acquainted with some idea.
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I just now confirmed that using koni in the translation of this sentence is accepted by Duo as correct.
I know it's old but it might help someone.
Scii means "have knowledge of" (a fact, an information, an opinion etc.)
Example: I need to have knowledge of the truth.
Koni refers to "being acquainted with" (someone, an animal, a place etc.)
Example: Sofia? Yes, I am acquainted with her.
I did not know three of the esperanto words needed for this answer. I got it right ;)
Where does "bezonas" come from? I never remember it because I can't connect it to anything.
There is a pic on the Net of two people standing there covered in bees. I think, "we need bees on us" to remember this one.
I've never heard the word, "scii" in any of the recordings. How does it sound?
It sounds a bit like "suh tsee ee". Every letter is pronounced. I have quite a bit of difficulty pronouncing it.
It is tricky. I found saying it over and over very slowly and gradually saying it faster helped a lot.
I found it helps me to practice 'sc' with words like 'bests' and 'firsts', that end in the 'sc' sound while sounding "natural" because they're in my native language.
Just say "est-see-ee", without the first E in est.
Phonetic breakdown (this always helps me):
S: S. This is where the S in the "est" comes from.
C: Ts. This is where the "t" in est and "s" in see come from.
I: Ee. This is where the two ees come from, the - is a slight pause.
Stsee-ee. It's difficult, I know.
Try saying "sit-see" and then shorten the "i" in "sit." It will sound like "stsee."
It's a very hard word to pronounce. It's pronounced like "stsee-ee", but the "sts" at the beginning should be said like one sound.
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"Havas" is for possession. In English "have" and "got" are kind of sloppy, and have several uses, but it Esperanto, you don't "have to know" using havas. You can say "I must know" or "I need to know", which is what the English phrase really means.
Devi is when you have an obligation to do something: "Mi devas fari kukon por la festo." Bezoni is when you have a need for something: "Mi bezonas pecon da kuko!"
Does anyone else think 'scii' should be changed to be more easily prononcable?
Bear in mind that Esperanto is an international language. What may be tricky for people whose first language is English may be dead easy for a speaker of another language, and vice versa.
But if it's an international language then it should be easy for everyone!
If we could have a perfect international language then yes. But in reality, only to use sounds which are easy to speakers of all national languages would, in my view, be too restrictive - it would leave too few sounds available for use.
You posted this on April 24, 2020 and on December 2 you're still at XP level 6. I'm assuming that means you've moved on to other interests.
Anybody reading along should understand that it doesn't matter if anybody thinks something in Esperanto "should be changed." You can't just decide that a living language should be changed. There's no mechanism for that in living languages.