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Sssh... the little 'uns don't remember Jukeboxes without touchscreens.
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Meh, I like his first violin concerto and his eighth quartet
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Most pieces of classical music are indexed by number. Like, "op. 38" or "BWV 1007"
...Although, they wouldn't be calling them "songs" if they were talking about most classical music. :P
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i think i do, for example on cds each song has a number. but not sure
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Back when cds were a thing I would have been much more likely to say number than track.
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Aside from the obvious Jukebox thing, I can see this being used while ripping music from video games, where in some cases the tracks are only named numbers. I remember trying to rip the music from Mario Kart DS I think it was, and all the tracks were simply named SEQ_000, SEQ_001 etc.
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maybe it's a hymnbook and they need to know what number hymn it is?
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Most likely because we're asking which number from a given set of numbers. E.g. we have a CD with track numbers 1-10 and you're asking which of these numbers corresponds to the song. Though, they might be interchangeable.
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Right, that seems about right given what I've since learned about the usage of these correlatives. Thank you!
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Well, I got that much, but in this case "kiu" wasn't immediately followed by a noun anyway, "anaso" or otherwise.
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The noun is omitted like in English, isn't it?:
"Kiu numero estas la numero de tiu kanto?"
"Which number is the number of that song?"
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Right, that's what I gathered from earlier reactions I got.
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In this case it wouldn't be appropriate, but "numero" does mean "issue" if you're talking about the issues of a magazine or comic book, etc (ie~ issue #4). If the hovertext is only intended to show the appropriate meanings for a given context, then it is wrong; however, if it is supposed to give all possible meanings, then it's correct.
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From https://www.duolingo.com/skill/eo/Numbers
NOMBRO VS NUMERO
Esperanto distinguishes between nombro and numero although both are translated as “number” in English.
Nombro
Nombro is a number that signifies an amount or is used to express a mathematical relationship. For example:
la nombro de personoj
the number of people
4 estas pli granda nombro ol 3.
4 is a larger number than 3.
Numero
Numero is a number used for labelling items in a series:
la numero de la domo
the house number
telefonnumero
phone number
la lasta numero de la gazeto
the last number [edition] of the newspaper.
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I see in English both are numbers, but in my native language nombro-число, numero-номер. Thanks for link, I use duo via application and didn't know that there are some instructions online.
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Yes, the same in German: nombro=Zahl and numero=Nummer.
Before I started the Esperanto course, I never realised how often English uses one word where other European languages use two. Another example is 'to know' which can either mean scii (уметь?) or koni (знать?)
(I hope the Russian translations are correct. I do not speak Russian and had to copy and paste them from a dictionary.)
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Interestingly, I learned German at school, but already forgot most of it. I think these two words are:
Scii - знать (to know something)
koni - быть знакомым с (be acquainted with)
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What's the difference between tio/tiu I can't hear the difference and am trying to learn by location but have no idea
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That would be an inquiry to the type of number it is (for example, a high number, a low number, a number that is a palyndrome when written down, ...) rather than precisely which number, so it would be a different question. In this context, "kiu" probably makes more sense, but I imagine there are situations thinkable where one would use "kia" to ask the other question.
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Numero is sort of the abstract meaning of a number, such as for "labelling items in a series", whereas nombro explicitly references a quantity or amount. See the tips and notes for examples.
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I often use songs from a songbook, but I wouldn't say "Which is the number of that song?" but "What is the number of that song?" Which just sounds unnatural English in this setting.
