https://www.duolingo.com/dragonrider11167

Microphone being too generous?

Has anyone else noticed this? Sometimes I can say completely different things than what Duolingo wants me to say, and it will count me correct. I'm just wondering if anyone else thinks the microphone is being too forgiving.

September 29, 2013

48 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/Celine1988

I do not use the microphone in duolingo anymore, since it counted correct Auf Wiederschnitzel instead of Auf Wiedersehen (I was testing out duoling, and it failed :D) I found the best way to practice pronunciation is to talk with other people in the language you´re learning.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/pepperonicus

duolingo is quite forward-thinking. people should say Auf Wiederschnitzel more often.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/MaerF0x0

It passed once with my wife talking in the background and my cat meowing.

We call that Meowspanol.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ryan5

I suggest repeating every phrase you are tested on, because it is good practice to do so.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

To be honest, the microphone exercises aren't worth using due to the problem that you pointed out. I just keep them off. I hope they improve one day though.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/cputrdoc

It asked me to say something in Spanish and I accidentally translated it and said it in English. It accepted it, and I thought maybe it would accept either. Now that I've read this,... maybe I'm giving duolingo too much credit.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/DeeRamm

I've done that with German. My guess it sort of counts the syllables. I think it is a good way to introduce idioms and other constructs where the beginner would have little chance of translating it. (Now that the translation is not given, that is less useful. However usually the translations can be found with the comments.

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Bellatrix86

You're not the first to notice.

http://www.duolingo.com/comment/787255
http://www.duolingo.com/comment/781351

But I definitely agree.

September 29, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Kaanroo

Sometimes it does that too for me. But other times, I can't pass the question because it says I didn't say it correctly. Even though I sounded just like the recording, it marks it as wrong...

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jackthebiotic

Yep. Once I was taking to my baby brother (in Polish!) and didn't notice I'm recording - and it counted as correct! That happens when the record button actually WORKS. Most of the time, it does not.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77

SHIFFL! (slams head into floor from laughter)

December 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/porquepuedo

Wow. I'm totally shiffling right now.

December 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77

:D I like making up stuff instead of just saying the same old "lol".

December 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/porquepuedo

Maybe try lel every now and then? [Laughing extremely loud] haha

December 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77

Yeah, I will. Until then, "everyday i'm shiffling" :D

December 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/JT_____11

I LOVE THAT!!!!! SHIFFL

May 22, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AdoElias

Definitely agreed. When I started with DL and French (for he first time in my life) I was like - wooow...I must be really good and my french pronunciation must be really great (it was like 95% success) - but then i realised that mic is waaay to much benevolent when it comes to incorrect speaking. I found out when I tried Rosetta Stone and was thunderstruck when 60-70% of my speaking was unrecognised and marked as incorrect. Then I tried to use this "like Siri" dictation function on my Mac (changed language to French) and only confirmed that my "great" speaking isn't so great after all :)

DL do you plan on improving this? Speaking is definitely important to all of us when learning new language and without native speakers around us is really hard to realise that your speaking sucks.

September 29, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/j.dufraigne

Voice recognition is really tricky, even with good microphone, a native speaker and with a large sample of the user's voice.

I think the choice of going toward being more tolerant is reasonable as you do not want to alienate your beginner speakers(like me) and it still pushes you to try to speak a little if you do not practice with every sentences. It is also possible to replay your voice and see how it compares (thought the result can be frightening...).

That said, improvements in the voice recognition would be great, especially now, with the translate and speak feature, it is quite obvious when Duolingo is tolerant, which I am generally reporting.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/IAmJon

I feel the opposite way to you. I do the microphone excerises via my the app on my phone. It annoys me beacuse 9 times out of 10 it will say that it is not correct. Even though i'm pretty certain it is correct. I will then get frustrated, say some gibberish with only minimal resemblance to the question and it will say that it is correct.

I love the idea but i find it way too frustrating and annoying. It was a cool update at the beginning, it now just irritates me, when ever one of those questions pop up.

September 29, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist

Try imitating the rhythm of the speaker. I think that they are looking for this more than anything else. I've found that they're extremely forgiving if you hit the same beats.

September 29, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/IAmJon

Yeah I think you are right. Also, you are really good at languages! I've never seen anyone on here with skill levels that high!

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist

That's nice of you to say, but I make a lot of mistakes. This site is helping me smooth out my skills. There are definitely some people with more points than I have!

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/RobotTimelesss

Really? You have the most points I ever saw!

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist

AS2539 and BCEagle are above me on my own leaderboard, but I think there's also Donfollow and a few more

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/SD-77

You can turn it off.

December 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/HarbingerOfWarX

Yeah, I'm just trying to get past my German lessens right now to get to where I actually learn (I took German 1 in high school) and I might completely screw up and forget half the sentence, and it will still be correct.

September 29, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/FLRN88

I haven't been asked to do the microphone - is there a setting for that? I am doing Spanish. I would like to try it

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/ricardomfe

I noticed that when I was for the first time learning French the microphone system was faulty. But with time the tolerance decreases.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/dragonrider11167

Does anyone knows if the people running Duolingo are planning on improving the microphone?

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/GeezerDuck

I sometimes test my pronunciation on my phone translation apps, google translate, and iTranslate Voice. If the app can get what I am trying to say, even word by word, then I am happy.

Each of these apps seems to have it's own strengths, but I do not know which of their Spanish options best fits the version we learn here. (Google translate has: Argentina, Latin America, Mexico and Spain options, while iTranslate has Spain, Mexico, and United States.) Any thoughts?

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/MADmag94

agreed. this is the only thing keeping duo lingo from being nigh perfect.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/pdquinn1

I, too, have turned off the microphone. It was making it too easy to pass a lesson and move on when I probably shouldn't have.

September 30, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/prsni.p

yeah..i agree..happened to me...even though im saying a totally wrong sentence it still considered me correct! its like WTF MAN?! hahahaha..that's why i dont usually use it anymore, just when im lazy to type:)

October 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/queendeeny

I wish I had your microphone! Sometimes no matter how carefully I pronounce, it tells me it can't understand me.

October 1, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/princessmiwi

I noticed that, and thought it was by design - better to just make the person practice than look for the perfect pronunciation, I guess? I just use to practice, because otherwise I would never speak french...

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/n.gratton

I find it inconsistent. Sometimes I know I mis-said something slightly and/or there are background noises, and it still gives me an OK, On a few phrases I'm sure I've said it syllable-perfect but it repeatedly tells me it's no good. Mostly it's good, but sometimes it's frustrating.

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Thalass

I agree that it's a bit too generous - but i still use it as it's still worth the practice parroting what duo says. That's how children learn, after all.

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/emadpetto

happend to me too

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/TheGandalf

I don't even use it, partly because it hasn't existed for Italian the majority of the time I've been here, but also because I just don't think I'd find it useful.

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/porquepuedo

I don't use the microphone.... everyone can hear me :P I do agree it's a little too easy to get away with wrong pronunciations though. You should inform the staff about this.

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/dragonrider11167

That's what I'm trying to do.

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/doubleube45

Yes, I know. But, it is still good for me to attempt the pronunciation. It is difficult for me to get the accent correct when I am reading words, so even if I pass, when I really shouldn't, I find it beneficial.

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/urema

i copy everything the woman says or asks aloud (not doing the microphone questions)..... and I am attempting to chat to other speakers of, in my case, french

Duolingo rocks though!

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/TheAetherSplash

I said enderman and it said i was correct the word was no where near enderman

October 2, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/sara.f.wolf

The microphone marks everything I say as correct, even if I say things that are completely wrong. It doesn't ever let me listen back to what I've said, which is what I assume the play button is supposed to do. What's up with that? I know I can turn it off, but I do find that when I'm not making fun of the feature it does motivate me to say the sentences out loud with my best accent, regardless. It's like an 'A For Effort' system.

September 30, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Runnerbob

My guess is that Duolingo has developed a sense of humor.

February 4, 2016

https://www.duolingo.com/TinyEni

I just got points for microphone even with the microphone not plugged in lol I wanna practice for real, could you please fix this? you can say complete nonsense and still get the point.

March 3, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/4oYBIxtO

There are still problems four years later. Sometimes I get an OK after having said only half the sentence. Sometimes I get wrong without really understanding why.

June 30, 2018
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