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Do you think someone should make an Old English (Ænglisc spræc) course?

What do all you duolinguists think about the possibility of creating a course for Old English. It would certainly be one of the more exotic languages to learn, but I'm sure some people out there in the world would be up to it. I know there are many linguists that study it. Also, what do you guys think about other dead languages like Old Norse, Ancient Greek, and Ancient Mayan? Let me know your thoughts.

June 1, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/underwood.jones

I've actually applied with some friends to create a Gothic course! We are a long way from being accepted as there are many more applicants of living language courses but someday I hope to build the first complete, approachable Gothic course that is not geared toward academic linguists only. Benjamin P. Johnson has a great "Gothic for Goths" series on YouTube that I highly recommend as well, quite humorous and informative. Learning Gothic can really help with other early Germanic languages such as Old English, Old Norse, Old Saxon, etc. It's not too far removed from Proto-Germanic, as it is the earliest attested form of a Germanic language. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MyersChris32

I recently stumbled across your original post where you propositioned for a course to be made. I hope one day it is created. I feel a deep love for all the old Germanic languages and what has spawned from them. (Currently focusing deeply on Swedish).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Leader-Desslok

Germanic languages are just the best. Especially West Germanic languages.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/underwood.jones

Thank you! I hope we're able to be added someday. We don't have a huge amount of interest or support but I feel like it's growing. I'm confident we'll get there someday. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/W00l31wool

Another language I studied at uni. Very restricted vocab, as remants of the language are found only in two of the NT gospels, and a couple of negligible other sources. Good luck with it!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/underwood.jones

We actually have a good portion of the NT, not only the gospels, as well as a few deeds and a biblical commentary known as the "Skeireins." We have some runic transcriptions on spearheads etc. as well that are less important linguistic contributions but still neat. Check out: http://www.wulfila.be/ if you are interested!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IanBrettCooper

"Restricted vocab"? "Negligible other sources"?

Maybe you've only been exposed to two Gospels and a couple of negligible other sources, but there are over 400 surviving manuscripts from the period, of which about 189 are considered "major". Beowulf alone has 40,000 words, while The Anglo Saxon Chronicle has somewhere around 70,000. Sure, the words in those documents aren't all unique, but Clark-Hall's Concise Dictionary of Old English has around 34,000 unique words - that's the same number of words as the current Merriam Webster concise dictionary, and while that's far less than the 170,000 words in current English usage, most people have a working vocabulary of only around 20,000 to 35,000 words, and on a daily basis the average person uses around 4,000 words, tops.

Duolingo's most word-intensive course has a vocabulary of just over 3200 words.

So there are more than enough words of Old English for a person to learn the language, and we even have a reconstructed phonology for it, so we are able to speak it every bit as well as the average person can speak his native language.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SteveLando

There even exist an wikipedia on the language, so of course there should be a Duolingo on it, see here:

about the english language: http://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C4%ABwenglisc_spr%C7%A3c

the wikipedia mainpage: http://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C4%93afodtramet


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langlearnerZeke

Yeah, that Wikipedia's awesome and kinda funny too sometimes. Like how it calls modern English "new english"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BreVDD

I would love to learn Old English and Norse!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PerpluxusJam

that would be cool, i would love to learn old English!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langlearnerZeke

Yeah. I think that even for non-native english speakers, it would be cool to discover the roots of the international language, which has one of the most interesting stories of all languages.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

I am now doing Basic lessons on OE in the Duolingo Forums - click here to keep updated - https://www.duolingo.com/comment/17439540


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Taurendil

I'd be doing the course already if it existed. So yes, please, if possible. No idea what I would use it for but that's not going to stop me!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

I am now doing Basic lessons on OE in the Duolingo Forums - click here to keep updated - https://www.duolingo.com/comment/17439540


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langlearnerZeke

Yeah! I wonder how many people there are out there who know it. I'd totally learn it if someone made it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Skytsengel

PLEASE. I'd study Anglo Saxon or Old Norse before Latin


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IngeborgNo2

Yes indeed; Old Norse has contributed some basic vocabulary to English, but almost no one notices it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Luscinda

What you need is Sweet's Anglo Saxon Primer.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/W00l31wool

Indeed, there is nothing like Sweet!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Naylor1993

That would be amazing! I wonder what flag they'd use, maybe the St George?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langlearnerZeke

Maybe their monument would be something of King Alfred.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

Statue in Winchester springs to mind (even though it's a modern statue).


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Estel785882

I'd suggest the Ruthwell Cross, which has part of the Old English poem The Dream of the Rood inscribed on it in runic letters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthwell_Cross


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DianeJoyBa

Loved this poem! Read it in O E class and would love to find a copy of the text we used. It combined grammar and some poetry.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WulfgarGoodread

Since it is most likely they will use the Westseaxna dialect, the flag of Wessex seems like a viable choice - a golden wyvern on a red field.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langlearnerZeke

that flag's bad-a**


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ethan_Burn

The White Dragon would be a better choice, I think.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lgfanara

Oh, yes, absolutely! Does anyone here know Old English? If I did I would contribute.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eard_Stapa

Many people seem to be confused about what Old English (Anglo-Saxon) actually is. It is not Shakespearean English. Shakespearean English is early Modern English. It is not even the language of Chaucer (Canterbury Tales), which is Middle English.

Old English was spoken from about 400-1100 and is quite different from Modern English. It is an inflected Germanic language. It will not help you learn Modern English or read Shakespeare or even Chaucer. It will, however, allow you to read the epic poem Beowulf and many other old poems and manuscripts in their original. For a sample of Old English, I have included Cædmon's Hymn below along with a modern translation so you can see just how different they are.


Nū scylun hergan hefaenrīcaes Uard,

metudæs maecti end his mōdgidanc,

uerc Uuldurfadur, suē hē uundra gihwaes,

ēci dryctin ōr āstelidæ

hē ǣrist scōp aelda barnum

heben til hrōfe, hāleg scepen.

Thā middungeard moncynnæs Uard,

eci Dryctin, æfter tīadæ

firum foldu, Frēa allmectig.


Now [we] must honour the guardian of heaven,

the might of the architect, and his purpose,

the work of the father of glory

as he, the eternal lord, established the beginning of wonders;

he first created for the children of men

heaven as a roof, the holy creator

Then the guardian of mankind,

the eternal lord, afterwards appointed the middle earth,

the lands for men, the Lord almighty.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sMoulder

old norse would be fantastic! as would old english


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FresnoVegas

That would be so cool. I am for it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WulfgarGoodread

I would be very interested in an Ænglisc course. That is why I did the German tree and am working through the Dutch tree now. Last year I tried teaching myself some Ænglisc and plan to keep trying. I am working through some of the Ænglisc courses at Memrise too.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langlearnerZeke

They have Old English on Memrise? sweet! thanks for telling me


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scottyscarhan

I can contribute to a Old English course. I know how to speak it so I guess that's something. 2nd language so yeah.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Robert252247

Same here. Which courses are you learning? Any that are particularly good?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WulfgarGoodread

I have worked through several over the last 12 or 18 months. Right now, the only one I am learning is !Old English Core Vocabulary. I am about halfway through that one and only pick it up once every month or two. Looking over the Anglo-Saxon category at the Memrise website, the only courses that I recognize that I have done Basic Old English I and II. I may have done more? I can't find where a list of courses I have taken and retired from is on Memrise. I liked that the latter half of the Basic Old English I was the conugations of wesan and habban.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ElagabalusRex

Dayum, how do you juggle so many languages?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sgj213

I am trying to study Old English with my husband, and a Duolingo course would make things easier for us. We have a toddler that we would like to teach this to, and he can say "eale gedon" when he's all done, and, and, and...

I'm not as interested in non-English dead languages. Old Norse and Old German might be interesting because there's a bit of literature that has cultural similarities to Anglo Saxon.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Leader-Desslok

You're teaching your child to speak Old English? That is so cool.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

how far are you into learning the language?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sgj213

We have Sweet's Anglo Saxon Primer and Aelfric's bible, as well as various dictionaries, there's Leofwin on Youtube, I just learned about Memrise, and we have a list of food-related vocabulary in the kitchen, so I know quite a bit of vocabulary. I am still a little shaky on the grammar. I am but an amateur linguist. My husband is the one with the degree.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

Ah, poor Leofwin. Rest his soul. Have you seen Leornende Eald Englisc? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLnwScGuOxVlaN5aV9in9ag


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sgj213

Great channel! I guess this means I should participate in social media now.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WulfgarGoodread

Wait, Leofwin died? The guy that wrote that Old English children's book?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

Yeah, he died in 2011

From complications of the heart, if I remember correctly


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DianeJoyBa

Wow! Get them young while the linguistic mind is plastic!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Scottyscarhan

I know how to speak Old English. It was the 2nd language I learned. Scottish Gaelic being my first. anyway I would love to contribute to the course if it pops up.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/frazer_124

PLEASE can this happen. One of my (compulsory...) modules at uni is on Old English poetry and a duolingo tree would be fabulously helpful.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/W00l31wool

Learning Old English from an OE grammar is really not at all difficult. You will never have to speak it! I mastered it in a couple of months before I went to uni with no difficulty at all.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/frazer_124

I realise, but I have so much else to prepare for my course that finding the time to teach myself a new language with just an OE grammar would be tricky, even if only for the purpose of reading! Thanks for the encouragement though. I'm in a bit of a panic about it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/guthbrand

I'm not fluent in Ænglisc, but I have a pretty good knowledge of it. I was able to translate Beowulf into English. I'd contribute to this course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JordiFaxon

How do you pronounce "Ænglisc"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Anas276

Please add Old English to Duolingo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WeHaveAPiperDown

YES YES YES YES!!! I will be SO happy if they create an old English course!!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WadeGeerin

I am interested in learning Old English and Old Norse.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ayayai2

I would love if there was a course on Old English! We could do a study of Beowulf.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/symbol271

I think it'd be interesting to be able to run through some Old English lessons. I love linguistics and being able to learn more about how English has changed over the centuries would be really cool.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Iamapot8o

I would love to learn old English even just the basics to get a feel for the language


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JordiFaxon

This would be such a cool secret language to share with 4-5 friends. I want this course on DuoLingo badly.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mornell325

Would love to do an Old English/Anglo-Saxon course! Would be such a great addition to Duolingo! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Glaiseun

And while you're waiting, Signum University has both Old English and Old Norse on their Anytime Audit program...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DianeJoyBa

Hwaet! Great idea!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Magnus886342

I want Old English course to be added! Posting to show my intent!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Turi861855

Would 100% take part in and Old English course!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jodough14

Definitely. Although it may not be overly useful in modern conversation, I'm sure it would be extremely useful for people studying or thinking of studying ancient texts, and an excellent way of attracting new users.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-Levi.

Still would be awesome, like learning Latin


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langlearnerZeke

it would also be useful for looking at how english connects with it's Germanic relatives and understanding how it evolved, not to mention how fricking awesome an Old English course would be. I'd certainly take it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jodough14

Yeah, that is fair as well. You can kind of start to see how European languages tie in to one another after you try to learn a few as well, hey? It'd be awesome if they also provided some material about the root/source of words. Duo could be such a useful tool for so many more people than it already is. :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TedRowdy

Yes, but they are now coming out with High Valyrian and Klingon so.... xD


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/W00l31wool

I studied Old English at university (Leeds, UK - many decades ago!) One of the advantages of learning it is that there are not that many surviving texts, so the vocabulary pool is quite small. There are some wonderful poems: The Wanderer, and The Seafarer, well worth learning the language so that you can read them.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/langlearnerZeke

Not to mention Beowulf. I sure would like to read it in the original Anglo-saxon.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wyqtor
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Middle English (from Chaucer's time) would be interesting as well.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eard_Stapa

It would be interesting, but I'm not sure a native English speaker needs a whole Duo course to learn Middle English. With just a small bit of instruction a speaker of modern English can learn to read Chaucer fluently in a short bit of time, in my experience.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Duogold237

Do you think it would be beneficial for non-English speakers?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RobertColumbia

Yes, I've more or less taught myself to read Chaucer, primarily by using side-by-side versions as well as prior intense reading of Shakespeare and the King James Bible. A little German is helpful too (there are cognates no longer common in Modern English, an early easy one is Holt), and the grammar is slightly more Germanesque too (also true of Shakespeare). Note that Chaucer is not exactly highbrow literature - it's chock full of off-color jokes and political satire. No, really, it is. If you find yourself wondering, "Hey, is he really talking about that?" the answer is yes, he probably is.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FredrikVC

When I was in high school, my English teacher assigned the Canterbury Tales to the class. We were to present one of the stories as an oral presentation to the class.

One person in the class found a modern translation and presented the story from the Wife of Bath. Needless to say, that was the last oral presentation.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Robert252247

And there is a lot more reading material for it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/funkychipmunk282

look it up, it just requires a bit french vocab, and you can understand most of it!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

I am now doing Basic lessons on OE in the Duolingo Forums - click here to keep updated - https://www.duolingo.com/comment/17439540


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kaldson

I would love this!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/cramos512

This would help a lot with understanding ancient texts


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bigAnt2017

YES! Old English! I know it would be difficult, but this language would be so much appreciated! I know it would be a bit of a challenge (e.g. the vocabulary would have to be restricted to things concerning the ancient world) but it would be such a plus to have.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

I spoke to Steve Pollington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Pollington) about a DL course in Old English. He said he had no interest as Anglo-Saxon books was barely surviving right now; taking money away from books like his would likely kill AS Books. :'~(


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gothicsquirrel

That's not good :( I have so many of the AS Books and they're my go to publisher for books on the Dark Ages.

I have the Pollington OE book and cds and I've really enjoyed learning from them, but I do find myself sometimes wanting more information on specific points, e.g. if I can't work out why a certain rule applies in a particular case. Books alone will only take you so far. Duolingo only takes you so far too, which is why I've bought 'Complete Norwegian' to use alongside Duo's Norwegian tree. I think if anyone wants to learn seriously (and with OE you pretty much have to be serious about learning it) they will look for more depth than Duolingo offers. And if they're not that serious the £25 price tag* for Pollington's book would probably put them off too :/

*it's well worth the price


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sturmadler

Had he considered that people might pay him to participate in this process? I'd gladly contribute to a crowdfunding campaign for this. As for the death of books, what is worse, less people buying it or less people reading it? Do libraries kill book sales? Why should Duolingo?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

I think so long as Anglo-Saxon books is making money, it would be less problematic. I could suggest the crowd-funding idea to him as a means of off-setting losses.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ConaireMor

Late to this convo, I know, but honestly I think dead languages are more useful than made up ones (Esperanto excluded). I don't get why they're doing stuff like klingon first.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/C34H32N4O4Fe

I agree completely. I suppose the reason is there are more die-hard /Star trek/ fans than linguists (and also linguists have it harder because there are many ancient languages and Klingon is a single language). I wouldn't be surprised (although I'd be quite annoyed) if we got a Quenya course before and Old English course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Leader-Desslok

I would LOVE an old English or Old Norse course. One of the failings of Duolingo is that it doesn't have courses for dead languages. I have been studying Old English for the past couple weeks, and one of the wonderful things about it was that since i basically knew basic German grammar, I was able to learn OE grammar with ease. And since Old Norse Grammar is very similar to OE, it would be very easy to learn that as well. I would be eternally grateful for an OE course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/blackkdark

I could contribute to to this course.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kalashnikitty

Old english is just plain awesome. I would totally love a duolingo course for it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/spoudasteis

Anglo-Saxon would be an important language to learn especially for those interested in the history of England and the English language. Some of the most important pieces of writing are in Anglo-Saxon and it would be just as satisfying to read as Biblical Hebrew or Ancient Greek. Please create the course!


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    Yes Please this post is like 4 years old , make it happen!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/seanruss2014

    i would very much like to learn this, please!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JordiFaxon

    what would the flag be though?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Robert252247

    The dragon of Wessex.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Przemko666

    Learning Old English sounds like an awesome idea!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/1278957

    make an old english course


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

    Yes, we must do this!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

    is anyone still discussing this? If so, add me, as I am inspiring to learn old english, and could use some hints, tips , etc


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BanksAvram

    This needs to be a thing.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Estel785882

    I would love there to be an Old English course and I might be able to contribute to one.

    Now my mind is starting to run on what kinds of grammar and vocabulary would get covered...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dddanilo

    Of course, that'd be fantastic!!!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BryanAJParry

    I'd love an Old English course!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HistoryCulture

    I am now doing Basic lessons on OE in the Duolingo Forums - click here to keep updated - https://www.duolingo.com/comment/17439540


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sadbutcem

    It would be excellent course for the ones who study English language and literature or for the ones who are interested in history of English language. It'll be very educative if the course is made on DuoLingo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EarthKingdom

    I would love to learn this!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heartegg

    Dead languages would be cool.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Izoona
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    Heck yea, sign me up. This would be so fun


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lilianaacheung

    definately because it helps in highschool and university


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katzenperson

    I would love to see "Anglo-Saxon from English made available at Duolingo! ("Anglo-Saxon", I believe, is now the preferred term for Old English, although Middle English is still called "Middle English".)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shelby32960

    That would be amazing!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shelby32960

    I know that this would actually help many teens because I know that our English teachers used to try and get us to read some of this when doing the Old English sections. And it's also used in some college classes.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mikey.ishere

    I think it is a very good idea and it should be created. I enjoy studying old texts and one of my goals is reading Beowulf in it's original language. This course would be extremely useful for me and for my studies.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/radikian

    Definitely! Ancient languages are extremely interesting and knowing them opens a window to our world's history!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JackHenry84

    For anyone who wants to try it, I have a Memrise course teaching Old English grammar:

    https://www.memrise.com/course/1358845/old-english-grammar-u-of-texas-at-austin/

    And some vocabulary:

    https://www.memrise.com/course/1369735/old-english-vocabulary/

    All based off the free University of Texas at Austin website of Indo-European Languages:

    https://lrc.la.utexas.edu/eieol/engol


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Andrea579441

    Yes please! I would love this.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kate-Sorcha

    Please, please PLEASE make an Old English and/or Middle English course!!! Old Norse would be amazing as well!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/blackkdark

    I wrote a phrasebook for folks who want to practice conversational OE: https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Old-English-Anglo-Saxon-Phrasebook/dp/1977818153/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1512050439&sr=8-2&keywords=t.+patrick+snyder

    I have a few other OE books, if you click my name, you can see a few others.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlllieShu

    I would really love an Ænglisc course. I took a class in uni, but now I want to keep learning it and duolingo would be really helpful. And if they have Klingon and High Valerian, surely Old English isn’t LESS relevant irl xD Especially with its connections to various modern languages, and with the fascinating texts that have been written in OE


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sukottoburaun

    I think it's a good idea. Online resources for learning Old English are limited. Many of the links are dead.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/enoughsaid

    I love this idea! I would take this course.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BenMizrahi0

    I would like to study Old English (and Old Norse as well) as I am interested in all European languages in general, and Germanic, Romance, Celtic and Finno-Uralic languages in particular.

    Besides general interest, I can actually think of several fields where knowledge of Old English could be useful: History of the Germanic people and Germanic studies , historical linguistics, Beowulf studies and of course, missiology as the conversion of the Anglo-Saxons have occured when they still spoke Old English.

    I also do not think that Old English is that exotic. It should be fairly similar to Dutch and I personally also find it quite similar to German (which is of course,a Western Germanic language just like Old English).

    And one last suggestion: For those who are interested in the history of the English languages, I would also suggest to add courses in Middle English, Sccotish Gaelic, Cornish, Scots, Old Norse and Latin.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pntzp123

    Yes yes yes yes!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LongHenry

    Remember you need to have lots of upvotes on the request before they will consider adding it. About 800-1000 upvotes will go a long way to convincing the admins.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FredrikVC

    I want to read Beowulf in the original


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/childoftrees

    Old English has my vote! It’s my heritage, and I think it’s beautiful!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GwynHubert

    I believe that we should bring back dead/endangered languages!!!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tyrekisthename

    Just to show how brilliant you are to people I think this would be an excellent course lol


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yep2yel

    I would LOVE to learn Old English. That and Old Norse would be amazing for getting in touch with my ancestry.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Black_Cherries

    Now that would be truly interesting...what about Middle English?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jeff759025

    That would be great!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AnCatDubh

    Only if you get Simon Roper to do the audio!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zachary924414

    I Have A Anglo Saxon/Old English Speech Book If Sending That Over Will Help In Getting The Language I Will


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Kelly869418

    I would definately take a course in old English. I've been teaching myself the basics with a textbook I found so I can recite poetry and read old facsimiles of texts. I found a copy of Alice in Wonderland and the Little Prince translated too but its been the audio stuff like Benjamin bagby reciting Beowulf or some online recordings of the seafarer and stuff that really helps. I would love an interactive course like duolingo.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bananaboy18

    Are you still planning on making this course? I really like random ancient stuff so I'm learning things like Latin, and I'm learning Greek in the hopes of an ancient Greek course. I hope an Old English course will appear in the incubator soon!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RobWarner11

    I would love to see early medieval british languages here. I understand perfectly just how many 'living' languages aren't covered yet, but Old English, Norse and Early Celtic (both Brythonic and Goidelic) would be amazing and enriching.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Edward445862

    I definitely want there to be a Duolingo course on Old English. Please, Duolingo!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IngeborgNo2

    I'd personally love to see an Old Norse course here, but doubt it would be very popular. pictures Duo holding a Viking Age raven banner


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Q.Caesius

    I would also really like an old english course


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JimThibaul

    I am not interested, rather study languages that are not dead but I am curious; how would a course if it ever happens factor in the great vowel switch ?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IsakNygren1

    I like the idea. But how old English are we talking about? 16th century English or 6th century English, or something in the between?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/frazer_124

    Old English refers to the language spoken (roughly) between 600AD and 1100. It's the earliest form of the English language, and was very different to Modern English (spoken c.1500-today).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/IsakNygren1

    Thank you for the information.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/literalmind

    This and Old Norse would be interesting to learn, particularly in conjunction with German!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Duogold237

    Yes! I'm trying to learn Old English on YouTube. I think Duolingo would be much better. I also REALLY want to learn Old Norse and Latin. I'm doing Latin with a Compass Classroom DVD called Visual Latin. It's pretty good, but not free. You can buy it at https://www.compassclassroom.com/latin/visual-latin Ancient Greek, Ancient Hebrew and Aramaic would be good. Then we could read the original manuscripts of the Bible!


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wpdls

    Please make it happen, someone. :D


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/klcook

    I would take it.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TamsynCoetzee

    I would absolutely love to learn this!!! same with other extinct languages


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      I've got Sweets Anglo-Saxon dictionary & Complete Old English, by Mark Atherton but learning from books pales in comparison to programmes like Duolingo. I really hope Old English is added to Duolingo. in the mean time, I've started on Memrise.


      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eard_Stapa

      I'd also recommend "A Guide to Old English" by Mitchell and Robinson, although it's a bit drier and more academic.


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        Thanks, I'll check it out!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/C34H32N4O4Fe

        I would absolutely love to learn Old Norse.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ChevalierduTemps

        Of course! I am not a native English speaker, but I seek to speak it like a native, learning Old English may help me improve grammar, pronunciation, words I never heard, etc. Besides it would be a new challenge, it would be like learning English again, but differently.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eard_Stapa

        Actually, I don't really think learning Old English will help you speak Modern English at all. They are very different languages with different grammars and speakers of English can not read Old English. While some of the words are the same, Modern English has had a large influx of vocabulary from French and other languages and the Germanic words that have survived generally have very different pronunciation due to the Great Vowel Shift in the history of English, which might only confuse you more.

        Of course, I still encourage you to learn it if you are interested in Old English literature and poems but I just wanted to warn you that it is very different from Modern English so it won't help you much with that.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/daughterofAlbion

        Perhaps you could upload a sample of Old English to immersion? I frequently have to explain that it is not (for example) Shakespearian or Dickensian English!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eard_Stapa

        I don't think it would be appropriate to put it in any particular language's immersion but I'll add it to the thread here.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ChevalierduTemps

        Well, I wasn't referring to something like feeling familiarised with it, like hat happens with a Spanish speaker when this reads something in Portuguese, a lot of it can be understood.

        I was referring to something like:

        Maybe the accented letters, like the í, may make me tell the difference if an i is pronounced like in "Swine" or like in "Fatigued", if a word like that is still in Modern English; well, that's what I suppose, it might work only in some words, or not at all.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eard_Stapa

        Those are actually good examples of why I don't think Old English would help you learn Modern English, even pronunciation.

        "Swine" is from an Old English word "swīn" which would have been pronounced with an "ee" vowel like "keen". But English went through a "Great Vowel Shift", which is why many English vowels are pronounced different than other European languages.

        "Fatigue", however, came into English from French, which is why the "i" is pronounced differently.

        I guess learning Old English would help you know which English words have a Germanic origin and which came into English from French and other languages, but the pronunciation will still be dramatically different than Modern English so it seems to me it would only cause more confusion (and that's not even going into how different the grammar is). It would be like learning German to improve your English; they're essentially completely different languages.

        It's not a bad idea and for some other languages it might work but English has a pretty complicated past, having studied Old English before, I'm just offering my opinion on the strategy of learning Old English in an attempt to improve your Modern English.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sturmadler

        Tangential knowledge won't help you on the first leg of the learning curve, but it can sometimes surprisingly help you break through a learning cliff. There are commonalities enough between Old English and German, that a kenning of the one furthers growth in the other.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heartegg

        That would be a cool idea, though I probably won't use it.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ben996134

        I'd love it! Also Old Norse and other 'dead' languages!


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/akesserwani23

        Yes Anglo Saxon/Old English


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Matthew861602

        Teeeny bit nitpicky, but there is no one single Mayan language. There are at least 21, unless you're talking about the Mayan proto-language, which was ancient to the ancient Mayans.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NicholasSRivers

        Ænglish would be a great language for Duolingo to add.


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/blackkdark

        For thise who might be interested, I run a FB page and Twitter in and about Old English. It's mostly memes and other things but it helps to learn some phrases. Look up EaldEnglisc Or https://www.facebook.com/EaldEnglisc/


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RadioScotch

        I have a family who wrote books throughout time. I have a lot written in those languages and just simple carvings and stuff. I have a brother who can get around the pronounciations for it. He has spent a long time studying maybe he can help out?


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aldebran

        It would be interesant


        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/harujiho

        Very interesting! I'd like to see the differences and similarities!


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          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hardrockhamster

          I'd have an interest to learn Middle English


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ScottKBeck

          Ænglisc spræc would be cool


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/william803231

          what about shakespearean like 1300 to 1500?


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FredrikVC

          That's modern English


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/InvincibleCat

          An Old English course would be great! I would also enjoy an Old Norse course, and Ancient Mayan, but not Ancient Greek. I'm sure others feel differently though, so I'll vote for that too.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KeepLearning.

          they could release this with latin.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shea603077

          I like Chaucer, it would be good if there were a Duo course which could help me understand it better


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FredrikVC

          That's Middle English


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ARCANA-MVSA

          I would totally learn Old English. Seriously, English in all its stages is so super awesome.

          Latin also has my vote, and so will Icelandic (and Greenlandic) in a moment, but Old English is another old language I really want to learn, and there really aren't many good resources for learning it.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/A_Strange_Grey

          I would love to have a course like this to learn! I hope to learn more languages soon and I would love to try one of the more exotic ones.


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Segwyne

          I would like to vote for this! As a historical reenactor, it would be so much fun to not only educate people on the clothing and lifestyle, but also the language of the person I am portraying (usually a generic person rather than a specific historical figure).


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MrSaturnian

          I like the idea of courses for dead languages. It'd be neat to see how the way we speak has changed and evolved over time


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SiggaSnow

          I'd be all over it if there was a course for Old English. Please Duo make this happen!


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/knot_a_root

          I would love to see a Duolingo course for Old English (and especially Old Norse).


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Charlie936829

          Yes I would absolutely love to learn Old English and think the Duolingo ormat would be the easiest way to do so


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarpathianGSik1

          Great! Sounds like a plan! It would be an exotic piece in the course collection of Duolingo. I looked "Ænglisc spræc" on Google and found this playlist on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGd00wQDhivv6xBwrBh4zsk-ZaVmzKbcY

          Hope it helps and good luck on your journey!


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jbolliger_vafud

          For how about the precursor Anglo-frisian?


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Benjisan314

          I would love to see this!


          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/OfficialWilliamA

          as an English speaker, I also find this as a great idea


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            Nahuatl would be cool, too. it is the language of the ancient aztec. (i think)

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