That's also fine. I'd personally would probably use ge·pra·av·o·j, but there's no difference in meaning (both genders of removed by one generation grandparents = removed by one generation both genders of grandparents).
Sometimes changing the order of your affixes don't necessarily change meaning, but emphasised aspects of the thing (ekz. bo·ge·patr·o·j = ge·bo·patr·o·j). But also remember that not always you can shuffle them (ekz. hund·id·et·o ≠ hund·et·id·o).
Okay, you have my curiosity up. Is this a rule like, say, -id- must always come first in a set of suffixes? Or is it "small offspring of a dog" versus "offspring of a small dog"?
It's the difference in meaning, just like you've described it: “little puppy” vs “puppy of a little dog”. :)
If you want to know more about redescribing and redefining words using the Esperanto rules of word formation I highly recommend you to read “Word formation in Esperanto” by Ed Robertson.
I don't think that's incorrect, but I find it better to emphasize the "great-" first to be best understood.
Some people's great grandparents are dead, so it is said that the person does not have great grandparents (anymore). And sometimes, yet, some people do not know their great grandparents...
I only met once one of my 8 great grandparents. Most of people don't meet great grandparents often
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I don't have time this second to find a reference, but I thought I'd chime in and point out that the "ge" - for whatever reason - always goes before the root. So it's "prageavoj" , not "gepraavoj".
My (unverified) thought is that putting "ge" anywhere else would modify a different element, and since "gepra-" is nonsense, you wouldn't put the "ge" before the "pra."
I like to double check what I post before I post it, so I might come back and edit this if need be.
Edit: Two years later, I have nothing to add. That's exactly it. "gepra-" is nonsensical. "geav-" is not.
As in English you probably wouldn't put spaces between “greats” and write “great-great-great-grandparent”, in Esperanto you cannot put them between pra-s, because they're not words on their own, but affixes. There's no need for dashes dividing pra-s but if you like, you may use them. Also, you can write your ge- at the beginning and it wouldn't change the meaning.
So “great-great-great-grandparents” would be prapraprageavojn or gepraprapraavojn.
From the purely logical point of view, considering only explicit rules of word formation in Esperanto — yes, it could be.
But after analysing a sufficient amount of texts in Esperanto a descriptivist would deduct in this case another “rule” — when changing the order of affixes wouldn't change the meaning, repeated affixes are put together. :)
Let's compare number of occurrences found by Google:
gepraavo(j) — 4803
prageavo(j) — 2619
geprapraavo(j) — 3
praprageavo(j) — 8
pragepraavo(j) — 0
Searching through published text in Tekstaro gives a very different distribution.
Yes, I believe. It would be better to place the pras first, but it should be acceptable.
You cannot and there are two reasons. First, the number and case of the adjective has to fit to the noun, so grammaticaly it has to be praajn geavojn. But more importantly: the adjective praa means “prehistoric, primeval” and I bet it's not what you're trying to say about your grandparents. :)
Pra-pra-prageavoj, aŭ kelkaj generacioj de prageavoj aŭ …
Kiel mbalicki diris: praa signifas "primeval, primitive" Kiom da jaroj vivas vian familion? Ĉu vi parencas kun Metuŝelaĥ?
Now now, just because we're all mortal doesn't mean that you need to be snooty about it.
But it was tough to watch them die way back when.
So many languages, so many letters slipping tHrough the fingers...;o) Thanks!
A sense can't be of humour in Esperanto. :D
Dankon por havi humuron. or Dankon, por ke vi havas humuron.
Mi kredis tion, sed, kiam mi kontrolis la Esperanto/Angla vortaro de Butler, kaj la malnova vortaro de Wells, mi trovis en ambaŭ lokoj "senso de humoro-n."
@FredCapp: Ne, tio certe estas angleca eraro. :)
Unue memoru, ke humoro estas angle „mood, temper”, kaj „humour, a quality of being amusing or funny” estas humuro. Memoru ankaŭ, ke senso estas „sense, a manner of perceiving the physical world” (kiel aŭdado aŭ vidado), kaj „sense, feeling, perception through the intellect” estas sento (kp. kun la verbo senti).
Do logike eblas diri esperante pri la sento de humuro. Per Tekstaro mi trovis nur du uzoj de tiu esprimo kaj neniu uzo de la aliaj kunaĵoj. :)
Ha! Mi malleterumis! Dankon.
Mi legis sento de humoro kaj demetis la libron kaj skribis (kaj memoris) senso…
Kia fuŝo mi faris!
Ne dankinde. :) Sed memoru, ke la esprimo sento de humuro estas nekutima kaj normale oni diras simple je havi humuron.
Missing the hyphen apparently gets you a wrong answer instead of a grammar note. Not sure if that's a problem or if you should be slapped for bad English grammar.
I did the same as you, JohnMoser1. I think it might be because in English, a "great grandfather" is a grandfather who is really good, cool, swell, whereas a "great-grandfather" is a grandfather's father.
No, not entirely certain if it's a problem or if it's a reasonable response to saying something semantically-different via bad grammar.
Ne (plu) vivas.
Loĝi means “to live” but in a sense “to reside, to dwell, to inhabit” and vivi is “to live” in a sense “to be alive”.
I am sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Perhaps you meant, "Miaj geavoj estas bonegaj"? But what is the connection with the sentence "Ĉu vi ha vas prageavojn? " And what is "Preanas"?
fixed my error, you have a space in ha vas, it is a pun, my grandparents are great (miaj geavoj bonegas), I have great grandparents (mi havas prageavojn) and prenas was supposed to be get it, but it is actually more like take it, but i have fixed that to "cxu vi komprenas?"
Both are correct, one is more often. Please read previous comments to learn more.
Although it's worth pointing out that truth is not determined by votes on a forum.
No they're all dead :/