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One beneficial side effect of Duo is learning about other places and customs in the world. Some didn't know that tea was drunk from small glasses in some countries. Where I come from marmalade is a term strictly for citrus fruits.
yes, I've also known that it is 'orange marmalade' and jam is of some other fruits like strawberry or pineapple
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Maybe Italian doesn't distinguish between the various sweet gels that are spread on toast (or PB&J sandwiches)?
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I doubled the t instead of the l in marmellata and I agree that losing a heart over a minor typo seems extreme.
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Lol. I feel the same way. It's amazing how attached we get to those "hearts"! :)
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What hearts? If I do a mistake, I just get 14 exp instead 15. Am I missing something?
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Marmalleta ok so i got the e and a mixed up. Bit harsh for getting wrong!!!
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My dictionary says jelly is gelatina, NOT marmelatta. Gelatina di frutta would be fruit jelly. It is harsh to take away a heart for not checking "our jelly is sweet"!
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I believe there is some confusion on the English side here. American English and British English don't use the terms jelly and jam the same. If I understand correctly, gelatina is gelatin (or Jello) to Americans and jelly to Brits. In the US jelly is jam without any visible fruit bits. When Americans point out jam, Brits usually call it preserves.
At least, that's what I've worked out after a humorous conversation in Ireland at breakfast.
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British (specifically English) here. I don't think I'd call anything 'preserves' as such. We have jam - fruit and sugar boiled together until it sets then put in jars to be spread on toast/put in cakes at a later date. Marmalade - same as jam but with orange or lemon (usually). Chutney - fruits and veg preserved with vinegar to eat with cheese or cold meats. They are all generically 'preserves', but I would always call them by the specific name not the generic.
Jelly is usually what is called Jello in the US, though jelly can also be jam which has been strained to remove all the bits/seeds so that it is clear.
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Hmmm...I must have misunderstood my Irish acquaintance. We went through all of the terms back and forth and I tried to keep them all straight. The funnier conversation was over deer, elk, moose, and reindeer. He had some strange ideas as to how Americans view animals :).
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As I said I'm English, it may well be different in Ireland. Heck, it may well be different 50 miles down the road from where I was brought up in England. I'd understand what someone meant if they talked about 'preserves', although to me it could mean any of a range of things, sweet or savoury so I'd need more context or for it to be more closely specified.
In the US, "jelly" is fruit juice that has been gelled with sugar and added pectin. Jam has both the juice and the macerated fruit mixed with sugar to form a gel. Preserves are generally the whole fruit in gel. Marmalade is generally citrus, as noted above.
So, we have grape jelly, grape jam, and grape preserves.
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I don't know about other countries, but in America (though there's technically a distinction between the two) the words "jam" and "jelly" are often used interchangeably.
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As I'm sure you've noticed, this course uses American English. Sometimes the differences between the dialects leads to answers being marked as incorrect.
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Now I'm curious, is there any jam that is not supposed to be sweet?
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Sometimes - 'onion jam' which is onions cooked slowly with other things to make an accompaniment to savoury foods. Although I've more often heard it referred to as 'onion marmalade'. But if you call something 'jam' (meaning food not heavy traffic), I'd expect something sweet made with fruit.
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We say 'il nostro' when the thing that is ours is a masculine noun, and 'la nostra' when it is a feminine noun. We also say 'i nostri' and 'le nostre' for the plural versions of these.
Another issue on content. The generic term is jam/marmalade. Jelly is an American term which has a very different meaning to the rest of the world. Way too many Americanisms in this app.
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This app uses American English. British English alternatives are added whenever they are able, but you can't be surprised that an American company uses American English. There's no way to use the language without picking between dialects.
A professional company would write in generic English not any particular flavour. Perhaps the American developers/content providers should extract their heads from their butts and start doing that.
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There is no way to write in a totally generic version of English for all sentences. A bias is unavoidable. American flag for American English, no real shock there.
Also, keep in mind, volunteers add the alternatives after they are suggested. This isn't their full-time job. They do this out of the goodness of their hearts. If you'd like to see more alternatives added why not volunteer your time?
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la nostra marmellata dolce porta tutti i ragazzi al cantiere e dicono frequantemente è migliore della tua ;p ;p ;p
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That's just the way Italian does it - the possessive usually needs the article.
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If you forgot to say the article and just said "nostra marmellata", would you be looked down upon too heavily? I'm just thinking about those times where I'm trying to answer someone and forget these little idosycracies.
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You wouldn't be looked down upon, and you would be understood - but they would know you were foreign! It's like when someone misses the article in English - for example, "please go through door and sit on chair" - we understand them but they are definitely not fluent!
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So marmellata gives the direction of the words used before (feminin)? If i had a maskulin substantive it'll look like this: i nostro cavalli è dolce? :s
I got this one right, word for word with no typos and all accents; I checked the correct answer to mine and it's the exact same. A bug?
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All this talk about differences between this and that. Why is there not a single word for marmalade that lets anyone know immediately thats what you mean and NoT something else??? The same could be said for jelly and jam and preserves. It seems like its all deliberately done to confuse people, esp. Those living in different countries. NEXT!!!!
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It said i got it wrong and that it should be our preserves are sweet
I said jam, for the English word "Jam" is preserves. Jam and Jellies in English are fruit preserves.
