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We need more complex lessons, more complex sentences.

We need more complex sentences.

A very hard part in languages are the connections between sentences / ideas.

For example:

"Este concepto incluye la "materia oscura" que se piensa equivale al 96 por ciento del universo pero que es totalmente invisible, y la súper simetría, bajo la cual todas las partículas visibles tienen equivalentes no visibles".

Or in English...

"According to the company's website, the life support systems and the water extractor will be activated, by which the breathable atmosphere will be ready for when the second expedition with the crew arrives on Mars"

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/bumbleandtumble
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Yes, I would agree, but DL is a site to learn the basics of a language, to get you interested, to promote language learning, to encourage young people to learn languages, and to give you the gist of a language. It is for young people trying to learn a language. DL cannot make you fluent. That is why the DL team does not have complex sentences like the one you gave. They try to make sentences that have to do with daily life, etc. Not about a breathable atmosphere or whatever you thought is going to help anyone. I don't believe learning a sentence like yours is going to help anyone, just saying. ;) If you want advanced courses or harder sentences, then leave DL and go to these sites:

  1. Coursera: this site offers MANY languages and they are COLLEGE-LEVEL courses. Yes, college-level courses. 2. EdX: this site is just like coursera. It offers courses from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc. 3. ALISON: another college-level language site. Offers several difficult languages.

If DL isn't hard enough for you, then check out these college-level courses from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, UCLA, UCBerkeley, Stanford, etc. Maybe they will give you the challenge you are asking for.

-hope I helped! :D have a wonderful day! :D

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GoslingHJ
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Though I think duolingo is the best for building the basic feeling to guess or compensate the meaning of the languages' new features rapidly, it would be nice that additional functionalities come to duolingo.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bumbleandtumble
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Yes, I agree with that, but this idea has been addressed before, so I was telling the person about what Dl was really for. I think complex sentences would be helpful. But I don't think it is anything we need to perseverate on, because the DL team is very hardworking and they are doing what they are doing for the community, so I think we should just go with the flow, and maybe in time the Dl team will make complex sentences. :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pseudocreobotra

Except both being about space and science, what do these texts have in common?

Anyway, I think that a major obstacle for more complex sentences is the fact that more complex sentences have more correct translations (word order etc). From my understanding, accepted translations have to be added manually which would be messy with longer sentences...

Also, Duolingo is mostly about teaching the basics and not so much about expressing complex ideas. Right now, that's a skill you have to work on by yourself. Duo can't take you there and to be frank... That's not the goal of this site. Duo just gives you the tools that you need.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/W-Cephei

Those are examples of "complex sentences".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Klgregonis
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Sentences like this are generally made up of several phrases, which are similar to phrases/sentences presented in Duo. If you break them down into those phrases, , they're actually pretty simple.

Actually, the English is written in geek speak, poorly, and could/should be rewritten to at least two, if not three separate sentences. i.e. According to the company's website, the life support systems and the water extractor will be activated. Breathable atmosphere will then be ready when the second expedition, with the crew, arrives on Mars. I think the hardest thing is actually the adverbial phrase ""According to the company's website" . so - making a stab at the Spanish -

Ségun el sitio de web de la compañia, los sistemas de soporte de vida y el extractor de agua se activará. con que la atmósfera respirable estará lista cuando la segunda expedición llegue a Marte con la tripulación. I'm sure I have some grammatical errors here,but at the beginning level of Duo, more practice on short phrases would help. The vocabulary choices also might not be what a native speaker would use.

Translation of the first phrase. This concept includes "dark matter", which is thought to be equivalent to 96% of the universe but which is totally invisible, and super symmetry, under which all visible particles have invisible equivalents.

This one isn't too bad, the two phrases are separate enough to parse individually. but have a logical connection. And - unless you had some prior knowledge, could be hard to understand in your native language. EVERYTHING in both of these sentences is taught in Duolingo, except the vocabulary , just not in a single sentence, so break it down at the conjunctions and work on each part separately.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/vcel10
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There are many sites that offer bilingual material in the sciences. They will probably have many complex sentences for you to peruse, examine, parse and study.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elizabeth261736

You could try Duo immersion.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/b05aplmun.ca
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Yes, immersion offers documents of varying degrees of difficulty on a wide array of subjects. You can also upload your own documents. In addition to practice translating (which you could get on your own), you would also earn XP and you would potentially have the benefit of input from other people about your translation.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

Some us may desire (we need air, food, water) more complex sentences, but that may not fit Duo's mission. Duo is simply not a "one stop shop" for all language learning needs, and several other resources do a very good job of doing things Duo does not do, or does not do very well.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/W-Cephei

It would be positive for the page to have more complex lessons.

3 years ago