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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Junesun

cx gx hx jx sx ux now work!

The X-System now works! :D It doesn't convert on the fly, but it does accept cx, gx, hx, jx, sx, ux instead of ĉ, ĝ, ĥ, ĵ, ŝ, ŭ as alternative spellings. Thanks a_david!

La X-sistemo nun funkcias! :D Ĝi ne konvertas literojn dum vi tajpas, sed ĝi ja akceptas cx, gx, hx, jx, sx, ux anstataŭ ĉ, ĝ, ĥ, ĵ, ŝ, ŭ kiel alternativaj literumoj. Dankon al a_david!

Duolingo accepts Cx for Ĉ

June 3, 2015

35 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vinofreddo

Woohoo :D This'll be a big help for me, since I haven't found a way to type Esperanto characters on my Microsoft Surface tablet - I've been using the buttons so far!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Senlando

Yeah, I'm so happy to see the x system in place! I've been using it for years because most computers don't have an easy why to type Esperanto letters readily installed. Over the last week, I've been writing the characters without the special hats on the letters and would always get the "spelling error notice" which is annoying when you know how to spell it, you just can't be bothered to click the right letter (very time consuming!) or your keyboard isn't set up properly.

The x system is a good way for me to take notice that a special letter is used in a place and is a way for me to let the Duolingo program know that I know and am not just making a bunch of errors because I don't know the difference between the sounds and letters.

A lot of people say that the x system is ugly, I would agree but after a while I got used to it. For me it makes Esperanto look more exotic and there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/flootzavut

Excellent! That will make Esperanto-ing on my computer much easier :D Thanks, a_david :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

Thx Duo staff, and EO/EN team of course!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ferrum

I made a Firefox extension that allows the X-system for Duolingo answers, but converts on-the-fly as you type, which means the text you write is both easy to type and standard to read.

If you would like that feature, you can install the extension from here: https://people.mozilla.org/~sstangl/esperanto-x-system-enabler.xpi

Source code to the extension is available by renaming the file from .xpi to .zip.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jepkatoj

How was this implemented? I'm guessing you didn't provide alternatives for every sentence, but that you somehow set it up so that whenever it sees cx anywhere that it's the same as ĉ (etc)? Either way, good news (although I won't use it) :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/amuzulo

Yes, it makes this replacement automatically.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/quirkyowl

Dankon! Mi ŝatas lerni esperanton!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BlaisePetric

kaj mi sxatas lerni esperanton!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Krazy.Kat

Awesome! Great job!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kiddo-depido

Amazing!!! :D


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LingvaPingcxjo

Awesome. It was hard switching between the two different keyboards on android. I had to use the google keyboards and they aren't as nice. On the PC though just created a keyboard layout that allows me to tap the ^ on the 6 key then hit the right letter.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JamesBulls

This is great. For those of us who can't install an Esperanto-only keyboard, or who are stuck using International keyboards that require complex key sequences to produce diacritics, the x-method is the way to go.

Regarding the debate surrounding the x- and h-methods, I find that I prefer the x-method. Because the letter "x" doesn't exist in Esperanto, this makes it really fast and easy to identify letters that ought to have diacritics. When I read Esperanto written with the h-method, I find that it slows my reading and confuses my comprehension of the message because I second guess if that added "h" is a letter or a diacritic.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fajro

Eble estus bona ideo mencii ankaŭ la kromprogrameton de Firefox (abcTajpu)por uzi la X-sistemon en aliaj retejoj.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kingthatcher

Por mi, mi ne povas elsxuti tajpi'on (kun cxiuj aliaj homoj en mia lernejo), cxar nun estas mi en lernejo kaj mia lernejo ne permesas nin elsxuti gxin (mi ne scias kial)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/darth10ter

Thank you so much! I can't wait to try it out.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/difbobatl

Does the h-system work? I've tried it a couple of times and gotten flagged for a typo...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Junesun

No, unfortunately the H system is too inconsistent to be allowed in the same way, because H is also a valid letter in Esperanto. Please use X or real characters.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mr.Knight

Dankon! DANKON! Kiam mi ne havas mian MacBook, mi ne sxatas la butonojn sur la Duo-pagxoj, kiam mi devas levi miajn fingrojn, kiu haltas min. Dankon dankon dankon!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Derdiedas812

Would be possible to have š and č being recognized as ĉ and ŝ, respectively? I find it funny that I have on my keyboard two letters in the Czech alphabet (and all the alphabet derived from it, afaik) that sound exactly as the two sounds Zamenhof decided to use, look nearly the same, yet they are not recognized by duolingo.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Foudeb

That's really cool, dankon!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/trainpilot

Brill. Good work Esperanto team.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/difbobatl

Actually the h-system does work too! At least 95% of the time. ;-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

Does it consider the answers correct or does it consider them wrong but with a minor error (a typo)?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tom_4_3i

Not as "correct" but as "almost correct, you have a typo" :-(


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

Ok, so it's more "wrong (but minor error so we [=Duo] is lenient and let you ass with it". ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sinkopo

@Junesun, @amuzulo kaj aliaj instigantoj de tiu ĉi esperanto-rubriko en duolingvo: ĉu eblas atentigi la responsulojn de la retejo uzi alian tiparon kiu entenus la ĉapelajn simbolojn elskatole?

Mi vidas ke ili aspektas malbele sine de la ceteraj literoj. Tio ŝuldiĝas al la fakto ke la tiparo uzata de la retejo ne entenas ilin, do la retumilo anstataŭas ilin ĉerpante ilin el defaŭlta sistema tiparo. Tial la aspekto inter la ĉapelitaj literoj kaj la ceteraj literoj ne kongruas.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NebelLeben

Aaw, so happy now :) It was always taking a lot of tipe to stop writing, taking the computer mouse and clicking on a letter. Thank you!!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/redyoshi49q

On my end, input using the X-system works both in a web browser and on a web connected Apple device, but the X-system doesn't seem to be recognized by an offline Apple device.

See https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5717/22145358585_282c620b31_b.jpg for a (cruddy but hopefully legible) screenshot. It shows that "Li aux sxi laboras" is not recognized as a valid translation of "He or she works.", even though the inputted text is the X-system text that directly corresponds to the provided canonical translation. Again, this doesn't happen if there is web connectivity; this only happens when the Apple device is offline.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GiuseppeCl906035

When the first letter of the expected answer is the uppercase of ĉ, ĝ, ĥ, ĵ or ŝ, and one uses the corresponding x-version, the answer is flagged as incorrect. For example, "Sxtrumpoj ne havas butonojn" is flagged as incorrect when the expected answer is "Ŝtrumpoj ne havas butonojn".

P.S. I know that this post is 5 years old, but I felt it was more appropriate to write here instead of opening a new post.

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