"We have not had enough students to open the courses."

Translation:Não temos tido alunos suficientes para abrir cursos.

10/2/2013, 10:07:37 AM

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https://www.duolingo.com/kadhafi
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Another one... I cannot believe this is really wrong. Here my answer: "Nós não temos tido alunos suficientes para abrir cursos." I got it "wrong" because I used "Nós" at the beginning, I cannot believe it, no way!!!

10/2/2013, 10:07:37 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Macjory
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I really do sympathize with you. This kind of thing happens way too much in these Portuguese lessons!

2/7/2015, 3:21:38 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/irinel12

I know the feeling:) You should reporte.

10/14/2013, 5:42:09 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/MauricioBCV
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Nós não temos tidos estudantes suficientes para abrirmos os cursos.

4/8/2015, 3:11:25 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/todji

your conjugation of abrir is incorrect. "To open" is the infinite case so it should be "para abrir os cursos".

8/12/2015, 2:27:18 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/MauricioBCV
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In portuguese, who is owning the action is 'nós', so it is correct to conjugate 'abrirmos' in this case. See 'infinitivo pessoal' of first person of plural at conjugação of https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/abrir (I am a native portuguese speaker)

8/15/2015, 12:12:42 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/todji

I guess that's what I get for not paying attention and trying to tell a native speaker what's correct!

8/17/2015, 11:46:47 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/adinsh
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What could be wrong with "Nós não temos tido suficientes estudantes para abrir os cursos"?

8/30/2015, 7:25:46 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis_Domingos
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Nothing, really - the 1st person pronouns can be readily omitted, but you are still able to use them. That sentence is now being accepted.

8/30/2015, 5:31:22 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/adinsh
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Thank you Luis and sorry for not having clearly defined my question. Duo rejects this answer and corrects me with "Nós não tivemos suficientes estudantes para abrir os cursos". But "tivemos" is the preterite tense and not the perfect tense, isn't it?

8/30/2015, 5:57:07 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Luis_Domingos
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That won't happen again, but that's correct: the Portuguese compound tenses (ter + past participle) don't really or don't always match the English perfect tenses (especially the present compound, which can swing from "present perfect" to "present perfect continuous" depending on the meaning behind the action in Portuguese).

In any case, the preterite is accepted here because the present perfect invokes an action that started in the past, and Portuguese usually uses the preterite to explain that idea (as long as the action has been fully completed by the time you speak):

  • I've eaten a hot dog. Eu comi um cachorro quente.
  • I've made this tool all by myself. Eu fiz esta ferramenta sozinho/sozinha.

In quite a few cases (and here too, in a way), the present compound tense carries with it an idea of progressive action, which is more well-captured by the English "present perfect continuous":

  • Eu tenho ficado mais em casa ultimamente. I've been staying at home more, lately.
  • Eu tenho comido bem nas últimas semanas. I've been eating well in the last few weeks.
8/30/2015, 6:24:46 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/adinsh
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Thank you dear Luis for your clear explanation. And for your time and dedication.

8/30/2015, 6:50:12 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/jedi_grrlie

I just entered the same sentence today, 01SEP2015, and got marked wrong. I will report.

9/2/2015, 2:36:03 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/adinsh
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Dear Jedi, this translation is accepted now. (Nós não temos tido suficientes estudantes para abrir os cursos).

9/3/2015, 3:00:07 PM
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