https://www.duolingo.com/Luis

A new look and feel comes to the skill tree!

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Over the last month, we've been testing a clearer way to structure the learning progress on Duolingo. We found that this new design improved the user experience according to our metrics, so today we switched all user accounts to it. It'll take a second to get used to, but we think it's ultimately a better way of understanding your language learning progress, and equally as fun.

So, what's new?

We now structure the progress in horizontal rows. When every skill in a row is completed, the row becomes unlocked. Before, we had lines between skills, and these lines lead you to unlocked skills.

For most people, this change is purely cosmetic, but a few of you may notice that some previously locked skills are now unlocked.

Why did we do this?

Most importantly, the old tree design was confusing to some language learners on Duolingo, so we settled on an easier way to display progress. In over a month of testing we saw people progress through the new trees more than through the old ones.

A second reason is that we're launching the Duolingo Language Incubator next week, a new way for the community to add languages. Here's our recent announcement about it: http://www.duolingo.com/comment/868354 As the community starts adding languages to Duolingo, we want to make it as intuitive as possible. We believe that arranging skills by rows is much easier on the course creators than having to add complex dependencies between the skills.

To (language) infinity and beyond!

5 years ago

542 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/MirjamCK

This is my impression, just so that you have feedback you can use or ignore, not some kind of demand or "I will leave if you don't..."-threat:

Perception: I like all kinds of diagrams and maths and computer science, so of course my rational conscience knows that there is absolutley no difference between the tree and the row structure, but my feeling brain says it's more boring now. The vertical lines felt like "flow" compared to "steps" now. Steps seem more exhausting. At the same time, now I am somehow walking "down" instead of towards.

Structure: The tree reminded me a lot of old computer games and made it feel more like something fun. We use similar things at university and I do that with my students as well: The more structure the plan has, the more I associate it with a landscape or a playing field like... well, like in lots of games. You want to fill the bar, you want to get to the castle, you want to unlock all the three doors to open the fourth...

Simplicity: I understand the simplicity argument, but I think that it backfires. Giving something some artificial but easily handled difficulty adds to the fun: Whenever people do something really boring, they start making up rules about it to make it a bit entertaing (Only step on the black tiles, Divide and Conquer work, Get "there" without being seen, How long can you hold your breath...) So while I am "bored" with "just go one step a time" I am a bit more "entertained" by "follow this graph".

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/attilaolah
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I couldn't explain myself any better, instead I'll just second this very well explained opinion.

That said, I understand that no diverging/converging lines would indeed make it easier to understand for some.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TypoKign

Well said. :-)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Persikov

I agree. The tree system would have seemed more useful if the contents actually built in aggregate, but it's a little misleading when it's like "You must learn animals to unlock adverbs" and then the adverb exercises have nary an animal in sight.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MultiLinguAlex
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This is just awesome. It's only my third day on duolingo, but I'm pretty amazed how you treat your "customers" and what you really do for the people. One can clearly see your philanthropic point of view. You have been creating a very important project and I'm going to spread some words in my circle of friends so that more people from Germany can contribute (duolingo is not that well-known here). Thanks a bunch and I'm curious how you're going to improve the site more and more!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chris.55

I miss the old tree system; it was much more interesting, gave different options and a sense of flowing (growing?). The new system just feels like a (boring) set of building blocks. PLEASE -Please can I have the option to go back to the old system. I liked it and it felt intuitive. This apart the site is terrific.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/epicureanlotus

I definitely agree. Perhaps the new system could be the default one, and then each user could have the option of reformatting his own progress chart to the old-style tree if he so desires?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sakasiru
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Sorry, I have to add myself to the choir of those who don't like it. I liked the previous layout much better. Now it seems so sterile, bland and uninteresting. The feeling of "unlocking" a new skill has diminished, now it just feels like plowing through any textbook.

Please, let us return to the old layout. It was a much beloved part of the duolingo feeling for me.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lilybean20

I agree with you completly

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/makemusic
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So much is happening at once, I feel as if I don't spend every second of my time until Oct. 9th on here, I'll miss out on something! This is sweeeet!!!

P.S. I really like the "To (language) infinity and beyond!" Is that a new motto? ;)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nateVONgreat
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I like the old one more, can there be an option in the settings to change it?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cvelzokraemer

What happed, where is the old tree?? The old tree was much more intuitive and motivating. You had the impression that you could reached the end via different ways. That you could choose you own path.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/anda13
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Someone cut down the tree and left only the leaves, I miss my tree :(

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/John.Red
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Hmm...I'll have to try it a bit before I officially form an opinion, but I can definitely see how it has lost the fun sense of "gaminess" -- like before you were leveling up along a path, which provided a lot of motivation.

Perhaps when I get used to it I will change my mind!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AxelAllen

Old tree or new tree Duolingo is simply AWESOME and a God-send to people with hectic lifestyles who are still keen on learning/practicing other languages; so here's a big thank you from my part, simply.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/colaring

looking forward to the amazing change on Oct. 9th.You guys are awesome!!! 到时候我会添加中文课程!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/duolearner12345

而我希望我能帮助你添加中文!可是我怕我可能不够专业...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/colaring

I'm not professional too,just want to make some contribution to this :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yu-Jie
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我也想要贡献一些 :) 一起努力,把duolingo变得更棒!!!!!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VStarTraveler

I've been one of the unknowing testers for the new skill tree but I started with it so I've never used the old flow chart skill tree. This is my perspective to those who are complaining about the new system being more confusing than the old method--I think you're missing the forest for the trees (pun intended). Having had a good bit of experience with various types of flow charts, I can tell you the new version is indeed a flow chart, too, just with a single linear progression down the center of the chart, with the progression line intentionally LEFT OUT, and no diverging/converging branches.

At each stage of progress, you have a branch with one to three (Spanish version, anyway) skills on it that must be completed before you go the next stage, similar to some of the multi-skill loops used in the old chart. As with the progression line, the branch lines are left out, but they are implied, just like the unseen linear progression line discussed above. You can imagine they are the horizontal lines separating each stage if you wish.

Therefore, I recommend that you give it a shot for a few days and you'll find that it works basically like a regular flow chart, just linearly without diverging branches, and most likely, will end up finding that it's functionally very similar to the old skill tree flow chart that you're used to using.

Good luck!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Salxandra
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Yeah, there's not much difference between the new and the old tree. I had the old tree, but I had compared my tree to the new tree when the new tree was in testing, and they follow almost the same path. It's primarily a visual difference that is easier to understand.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yu-Jie
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I think you worded it perfectly :) Those who don't like it SHOULD give it a try before complaining. Don't forget, the most important thing here is to learn languages, so even though the design is different, the lessons are still the best out there. The staff here have our best interests at heart--that's why they're constantly making new improvements. Even though the design before keeps you motivated, if you REALLY wanted to learn a new language, then it shouldn't matter to you too much, because no matter what you'd have the motivation to learn.

I must admit I was kind of surprised when I opened Duo and saw this totally new design staring back at me, but I think it's neat. Neat as in cool, not neat neat, even though it IS neater. Lol.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sakasiru
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What's there to try in liking the layout? We don't say it doesn't work. We just say it's not as appealing as the old. Of couse I will work with the new one, since my plan is to learn Spanish, but it lost a little bit of the fun which was the reason I choose duolingo to learn with in the first place. I liked working with the old tree better, as did obviously a lot of other users, so I think it is appropriate to give feedback to the duolingo staff. They worked hard obviously with the intention to make things better, so it is only fair to tell them if I feel it actually got worse.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yu-Jie
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Sorry, I wasn't thinking. Of course there's nothing wrong in giving your opinion about something new.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankKool
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You startled me for a moment there, because I feared I had to complete my German tree for the fourth time due to added lessons. :P

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist
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Me too- I saw that my French tree had changed but was happy to see the trophy still there. I was also sad to see that I'm still somewhat attached to my trophy, since I decided to try very hard to detach from them, as they can be taken away at any time. For some reason I don't object at all to tree decay, maybe because it's such a good metaphor for what really happens if you don't practice.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankKool
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Haha, I know the feeling. Sometimes it feels kind of compulsive to keep redoing lessons to make my tree as golden as possible. :P But then again, whatever helps me get my practice on...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mhtardis21

What happened to my trophy? I like the trophy at the corner of my lesson when I finish it, compared to the little check mark that's there :(

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/goldenhat

I totally agree! I really enjoy learning with Duolingo and I would like to say thank you very much to the people who work hard to make this site so great! I actually don’t mind the change in structure although admittedly I did have a brief knee jerk reaction when I first saw it. However it is more simple (almost feng shui) in appearance and I agree it will be easier to add skills at a later stage. What I will miss though is winning trophies at the end of a completed skill as I found it really motivating when I looked back at my trophy collection! It was a competition, a game and I had won! Ticks unfortunately remind me of tests. Would it be possible for the ticks to be changed back to trophies again?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/javax
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Ok, I'm kinda lost, the trophies are gone? Since when? 'Cause I can see them in my lessons. Guess I'm missing something.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mhtardis21

when you look at your tree there used to be little trophys where the checkmarks are now. The trophys are still in the lesson, but only if you click inside the lesson. :(

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/javax
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Ahhh!! Thank you so much! i didn't notice, but now that I did...Yeah. I miss them too T.T

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/unfairxo

I always look forward to updates on this site. I never thought I could ever learn a new language until I discovered Duolingo. Thanks a billion for offering your services for free.. It's truly & greatly appreciated!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kaiyes
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I prefer the old one. Can you make the old one optional. I undearstand that the new one is here because of the incubator, but PLEASE make the old one possible, if not for the incubator for the already made ones by duo's staff.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AdoElias

My first impression wasn't very positive - it takes time to get used to this new look. Honestly I miss the old tree. BUT from my experience I know that people are so afraid of all changes (event subtle ones) that they don't want to even try and they are immediately expressing their complaints. The same with Apple products - everybody is always complaining about this and that and later when people are used to this changes almost everybody is praising them as a wise move. I see the reason behind this change and therefore I won't complain. I will give it a shot and after few days I won't remember old tree at all - probably :)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrikhal
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@Duolingo team:
Since you change the tree, I have the annoucement "+1 Notice something different? We’ve added new lessons to teach you Spanish more effectively. Learn more." and the learn more links to this discussion.
So I think the message is confusing and you should change the annoucement for something like "Notice something different? We’ve changed the tree's look. Learn more."

NB: Before someone says it: Yes I know I can hide this message, just reporting to change for other users.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/miloslvj
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I feel like some people are missing the point with this update. It's not purely cosmetic, it actually opens up the language tree to more choice. In the Spanish Tree where I was at there were only a few courses that didn't require every previous one to be opened. I can totally see why people progress faster this way - it's a greater degree of freedom to select which lesson you'd like to do and the reward for completing a row is now greater too because it sometimes opens up to 3 new lessons. You guys do amazing work. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to learn for free!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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Interesting, this seems better and straight forward, I especially like the notification on top. Is it there to stay, and will it be used for future "official" notifications or it is just a one time deal?

I think it helps when changes affecting learning are highlighted like that so users aren't confused. I also saw that I have new words. An unintended update perhaps?

Hopefully the notification will stay there permanently, and be used in the future.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_pinkodoug_
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It's been used for the last few tree updates, so it's apparently here to stay. I agree that it was a nice addition.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Pandamaci
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liked the old one better, thanks any way

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gonadarian

I dislike this structure very much! It was very nicely done before, it was the first thing to grab my attention - that game-like, level-up approach! This now is very "back to boring school" look-and-feel. It seems to me that this change was a big mistake on part of intrinsic motivation, or of gamificating the learning.

I can understand that it is not easy to implement course-creation with support for branching, but that is a challenge for you guys! And at this challenge, you failed... You could of also decided to have advanced branching (old style) and basic branching (new... style?). Then for 3rd party content default to basic until you figure out a way to improve it to advanced.

P.S. I was very enthusiastic about DuoLingo and did recommend it to everybody. I don't think that my intrinsic motivation will push me into that direction any more...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

So... you aren't going to recommend Duolingo to people now, simply because of how the skill tree looks? Way to be pedantic. What about the quality of the education? You know, the thing that really matters the most when choosing a language learning service. It sounds like if someone were to make a skill tree for a language learning program that you found aesthetically pleasing, even if the education itself was of bad quality, you would still recommend it simply because you like the way it looks.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kyyyyyyle

That may be your personal opinion...but Duolingo did A/B testing and this one was better for the majority.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SergeantFTC

Personally, I don't like the new style, but I totally agree with Zach. DuoLingo is awesome both ways; this is a really superficial reason to stop recommending it.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gonadarian

I started using Duolingo because of the quality of education, but I started recommending it mainly because I was fascinated with their approach to gamification, especially having recently watched Coursera course on the same topic (+1 for https://www.coursera.org/course/gamification). This was the bonus that made me a strong Duolingo advocate. That might explain to you why this "small" change was such a disappointment for me...

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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This didn't change the gamification of language learning. You're still gaining experience points, leveling up, and moving to the next stage. They tested it and the new version brings more results with their users, so any speculation about what's better after that doesn't even make sense any more.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yu-Jie
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Totally.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/aicaramba

I agree that learning is the most important thing of learning a language. And that learning is what this should be based around. However, if people think this new design is less appealing to the eye, it might cause them to loose interest in learning a new language and are more likely to give up on it, the visual aspect can become more important than the efficiency of learning.

I personally like the old tree better as well, but the new tree might take some time to get used to / appreciate.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sparklypumpkin

boo

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BenTheGeek

Wow! This new tree is the BOMB!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/edithb1
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I agree with all who applauded you for continually working on improving the site. Nevertheless, I'll also add my voice to the chorus that this particular change is not an improvement.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shadowstar88

I think we should be able to have an option to use the new tree or the old tree, I feel like the old layout gave you a much better sense of progression than just moving down the line.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Rafa4Lang

Well I tested the new design and I saw a lot of people complaining. For me, people are just complaining because they were used to the old style. Unfortunately human beings are just like this, we hate change! C'mon people! This website is free and is changing the world, cut Luis some slack. These people are doing the best as they can to change the world. So let's just lean back and help them by learning languages and translating the world.

5 years ago

[deactivated user]

    Nobody is not being grateful for DL and all the effort the DL team put into this site. By voicing our opinions we are only helping improve the DL experience. For many people, the old tree was simply better because it played a main role in motivating them to keep learning. In the end, everyone on here expressed that what makes DL a success for them when compared to other methods of learning languages is that they stay motivated. Because really if you think about then it's not that the information DL has can not be found anywhere. In fact, many language books probably teach you a whole lot more, and with greater accuracy. People constantly are proving that what they need is MOTIVATION to stick to the learning process. That is what so many other methods lack, and why they may eventually fail. This is why people are pressing on this matter. Because this design change directly affects the most important success factor for language learning which I've mentioned earlier; motivation. I guess many would agree that DL = motivation. So it's not only about "people hating change." Change can be a good thing, but it can also be a bad thing. It's a smart thing to early on recognize when a change's effects aren't plausible. But, maybe giving it some more time, and then re-evaluating is a good idea. After all, less than twenty-four hours have passed since the introduction of the new design.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Yu-Jie
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    Yes, but sometimes they voice their opinions a bit too scathingly.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Yu-Jie
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    I agree!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

    Cool.:) Thanks everyone at Duolingo for continually improving this great service.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/btmims

    awww, I miss my skill tree... this way is probably easier and simpler, though.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Arthur_Smith

    Thank you for all you've done, this site is a blessing. Having said that, the site was perfectly clear and didn't need a new look. The skill tree was better before. Sorry =)

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Arthur_Smith

    Just to add, I just went through some of my "weakest vocabulary" tests to see what I was most struggling with. I discovered many of the old sentences where I was right, but my answer wasn't accepted - and I'm usually pretty good about reporting problems. I think many people here would appreciate it if you all spent more time looking at our notes and fixing all the myriad little mistakes rather than the superficial things like the skill tree graphics.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc

    We have an amazing team of language experts looking at your reports daily. We improve our sentences based on this feedback all the time. So, keep the reports coming (know we do look at them carefully!). Thanks!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/mptmpt
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    I have received a lot of replies for the suggestions I make in the sentences. There are also many messages from the language experts and community managers explaining that they read all the suggestions, and feedback from the users, but with 10M users it takes some time. Usually they send a notification only when you propose a new translation, which becomes accepted by the system, but it might take a month or even more until the language experts read your comments and decide if it is valid or not...

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/_pinkodoug_
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    I agree. I report issues with sentences whenever I encounter them and have received dozens of responses from the Language team. I think they do an amazing job at responding to user feedback. Unfortunately that work is often invisible to many users who mistake not seeing activity for there being no activity.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Arthur_Smith

    I mean, I could just start making a list here. I'm going through the Italian course. "Come" means both "like" and "as". So if you fixed that line "They work as clowns" and add in "they work like clowns", you'll be fixing your game and making many people very happy. And "poi" means both "then" and "next". The most frustrating thing about this game is getting an answer wrong when you know it's right. Focus on that.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/hexennacht

    Thanks for all the hard work that you do to keep us engaged and interested!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/ciprian.teiosanu

    Very nice addition. I can also confirm that with the old tree my girlfriend, for example, repeated the same skill a lot of times because she did not notice/understand the relation/dependency between skills.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/PerroNegro

    I miss my little gold trophies. :(

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/NCommander

    I find that I rather dislike the new look, as it just feels like step by step, and considerably less interesting. Furthermore, the change seems to have screwed up practicing for me as I'm getting words from lessons I haven't completed yet (I hadn't finished families yet plenty of words from those lessons started showing up)

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/KelvinEcho
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    Can we have an option to go back to the old tree? This is way too bland, the old way was much better, at least to me.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/lilybean20

    I have tried the new tree and I don't like it please change it back

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Kashirigi

    I have to say that I much preferred the old look. Like others have said, it gave more of a feel of progressing through the language. Mind you, progress is becoming more difficult as the sentences that I'm learning become increasingly nonsensical.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/LimitlessT

    I'd be lying if I said I like this more than the old layout, but I'll allow some time to see if it grows on me. And if people found the old tree branches confusing, then learning a new language is definitely going to be extra frustrating for them.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/mmwolf

    I agree. The new layout does look very bland. I liked the flow chart look of the last design and it made it more like a choose your own adventure!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/evavandyl

    I too preferred the old layout, it gave you a stronger sense of structure and I didn't find it confusing at all.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/ange.lin

    I'm sorry, but I prefer the old tree layout because it seems more intuitive - as some of the other commentators have said, it allows you to see how far you've progressed.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/nilinhim

    The Language incubator is an awesome endeavor by the Duolingo team and if the simplified tree is the price to bring that to life, go for it. Specially if the testing showed more users are able to learn better with it.

    With that in mind, I still must say that I REALLY loved the old tree view, which gave a real feel of playing a game. So, for my constructive criticism, if there would be an option where I could change my Linglots for an "advanced tree view" or a "game tree view", you could get the best of both worlds. Leave it as an option and make me "work" for my preference of an advanced view.

    But most importantly, keep making Duolingo awesome!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/IAmJon
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    As many others have said, the new tree is very bland. It reminds me of the layout of educational software you may use at school. Designed by adults who have no idea of what their younger demographic like. The other tree was simply nicer to look at. You wanted to work harder and follow those lines down.

    I understand that this was implemented because of the language incubator. But why couldn't Duo have kept the classic design for the original trees? I guess they want everything to look the same. Duo was always going to do something like this as they have to accomodate people uploading their courses.

    The concept of 'progress' cited here is flawed to me too. How do you measure progress? By how fast people finish the tree? Finishing the tree does not mean you have learnt the language, if you finish it really quickly and cannot remember anything. It is better to take it slow and constantly practice words you have learnt, to keep them in your longterm memory.

    Duo is amazing, but that doesn't mean we should not be allowed to criticise it. It comes across as somewhat sycophantic, when some people say how great everything is and get mad at people for not having an 'everything duo does is great' mentality. To keep Duo great people have to be allowed to say when they disagree with a decision.

    I don't like the new tree, but it is not massively different. I think we will all just have to get used to it.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Lilithly
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    Pretty! :D I really love this website, thanks for doing all this!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/javax
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    Thank you so much! I love it! When I first saw this design in one Spanish's user, I didn't like it. For me, at least, it was a little bit ugly. But now that I have it, I don't know why, I'm excited!! :D

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/ndilekli

    Just an idea, I think if you left align all the modules it would be easier to look through lessons visually

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Salxandra
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    but, if you left align then it would look like a side ways tree

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Christine1999

    Elegant, stylish, cool... I love it :)

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/makemusic
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    Me too :)

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/StrapsOption
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    Hmm, I quite miss the old tree style, though I do admit that this new one is clearer.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Shayeera

    -Black sheep- I like the new layout. I'm a sucker for organized structure.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Cyberwusel

    I really like it. It's easier to see where I am and what I have to learn until the next step.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/gretelri

    Thank you duolingo! I speak spanish, anda took a course of english when I was young. Now I'm learning french, but as If I speak english... I'm waiting for the update to october... To be able to learn french from spanish!!! But I think the change is great , and I continue learninig!!!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/kryscina

    Don't like new one :(

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/ultratrainer22

    Although the layout is pretty bland, I agree with it because it does seem easier to arrange the lessons in row format.(ps. hoping to add Filipino as a language :D)

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/chihuahuazero

    Totally with you with Filipino! That's my next priority when it comes to languages, besides French.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Mrs.Geee

    No me gusta. I liked the challenge of unlocking certain skills based on obtaining skills. It took me forever to complete past tense verbs and such, but when I completed it, I felt victorious in moving forward. Entonces no me gusta.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Encreverte
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    It's sad that my skill trees are no longer trees and look more like disjointed bubbles. There isn't a sense of progress anymore, nor a sense of achievement that you get from unlocking a new branch. There are, in fact, no longer any branches.

    This change was not well thought out from a learner's perspective.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/cdntinpusher

    "Why did we do this? Most importantly, the old tree design was confusing to some language learners on Duolingo, so we settled on an easier way to display progress. In over a month of testing we saw people progress through the new trees more than through the old ones."

    At the end of the day, whether we like the change or not is a personal, subjective thing. It is not scientific. All that really matters is that testing showed the new system to be more effective at progressing the test subjects as well as less confusing. The end goal isn't to create pleasing aesthetics or less cookie-cutter, but to help people learn a new language in the easiest, fastest, most effective method possible. If DL says these changes do that, then I'm all for it. I don't have the scientific or statistical evidence to contradict them.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/IAmJon
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    How do they measure progress though? How fast it takes you to go through the tree? You may finish the tree faster but that dosen't mean you have progressed. Taking it slowly, constantly practicing learned words, is better in my opinon. Because then you are actually learning.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/JtSinger37
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    That is a fair question that you ask: "How do they measure progress?". The term for this is operationalization. As someone who can appreciate and understand research in all its glory, I wouldn't mind seeing the results of the research that is conducted to test and implement new things. They likely defined "learning" by the speed in which individuals [on average, as a whole group (Group A vs Group B)] progressed through the language tree.

    It should also be noted that progression through the tree requires, in-part, knowledge and understanding of previously-learned material. There is no cheating in Duolingo, as you learn whether or not you "grind" through the same lesson until you get it right or you slowly work through lessons over and over again. At some point or another, you still learn. The best part is that it is up to the user and their preferred learning style as to how they progress.

    The fact that individuals were progressing more swiftly through trees in the new trees versus the old trees implicitly implies that these individuals were "learning" more quickly than those in the old tree format. This is reasonable to assume (based on the results) because both sets of users (new vs old) were new users to Duolingo. This would account for the time that individuals spent (on average) taking their time on lessons vs speeding through them. So the fact that individuals progress more quickly through trees than others does not, alone, imply that they are not learning as much. In fact, it should speak to the idea that they are learning more quickly because they are utilizing already-learned words in new lessons.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/MirjamCK

    I would really be interested in seeing the details, too. I expressed my impression in another post, and I feel really influenced by the new design, but I am aware of the "new is bad"-brain-thing ;-) I would like to know how strong that "thing" is in this case.

    Anyway since all the "subjects" were new to duolingo, I would like to know how long they were observed and if there were differences in their curves rather than only in the average speed. Do the "not a tree"-users learn "learning faster" from the beginning on or do they just start faster and later (because both groups are used to their design) it equals, because the confusion doesn't have any impact any more? How does the repition change (is one group more motivated than the other to keep all old squares golden, does the repition of lectures correlate with their position in the tree (and with their position towards other lectures...)?

    And so on. The user statistics of this site would be sooo cool (interdisciplinary) research material :-)

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/btryba

    I can understand the change to make it easier to design languages. Sadly, my hope for secret and hidden levels on the map probably won't be happening now.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/John.Red
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    Oh wow, that idea never occurred to me! The greatest thing about DL was that feeling that you were playing a game and "leveling up"...having hidden lessons and easter eggs would have been so epic. Maybe the hidden lessons could have been little stuff like "slang words" or something...

    Oh well, maybe it can still happen? Have you suggested it in the discussions? Let's do it DL!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/btryba

    I was hoping to see it become something like Super Mario Bros 3. I had a layout drawn up. I thought about writing it in HTML5 but didn't want to put a lot of effort into a mock up for no reason.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/prky
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    I kinda miss the old tree. This new tree makes it look like I've not learned so much. Some skills should be broken down into fewer lesson blocks.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/luotuo
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    I have a suggestion. You, developers, could leave an option for the old users to select the type of look. There are some users, like me, prefer the old look to the new look. You can add languages in the new look but retain the old look for the current languages. I think it is not difficult for you to program, and it will make Duolingo better to use.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/PeanutButter1046

    Cold, hard facts of life (and the internet): ~ Long time users of sites don't like, and often resist change ~ The change may be a good thing, and long time users may eventually grow accustomed to and even prefer it ~ Even if it's not a good change, the service knows (deep down) that if they just ignore user complaints, the users will adjust to the changes and give up complaining, even if their complaints are legitimate ~ The company will ignore the user complaints because, whether the complaints are legitimate or not, the company made the changes because they wanted to, and they'll keep the changes because they like them ..... So that's a little blunt, but I think disgruntled users and counter-disgruntled Duolingo workers alike will have to admit that it's true. Personally, I fall into the category of long-time user who preferred it the way it was, but will get used to the change and maybe, eventually, grudgingly admit that there is nothing wrong with the redesign, and that it might even be a bit better than the way it was before. But I still liked it the way it was, darn it!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/warjat
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    The lines weren't necessary. I like the new layout!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/dooitzedejong

    I'm thrilled with the new feature to add new languages!! :D

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/ThisIsAFish

    Preferred the tree from before, it looked more interesting. More importantly though, for me the audio doesn't work on the phone app since the updates.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Europe
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    I didn't like it :/

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/GoBayernMunich

    Brilliant! Thanks!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Treppich

    I see that a lot of you are disappointed that the old layout is now replaced and the new one might look a bit more clumsier. But don't complain too much, this is a new change in Duolingo and will be ironed out later and improved on.

    I suggest that we have the new design but with the old flow chart lines on it as well :)

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Lull0000

    Hello. I like the suggestion above that there could be an option to toggle between the two layouts, or maybe add a layout switching item to the store for 5 lingots or something. That way, the people who prefer the branching layout to the layered layout would have a better experience. Also, for Incubator, I think giving the option for either layout would be good to. That way the course designers could design the their course for one or both layouts, depending on which is more beneficial to their course.

    I think I'll probably like this layout better, but I'll have to try it a bit first.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Charlie_Treuse

    seeing both yeas and nays for the new look. since I've had it drilled into me since first grade that everyone learns differently, I'm gonna go with that. Perhaps in the future there will be an option to choose different layouts.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/yeldarb42

    I didn't mind the old layout, but new one is nice. The lines on the previous version added some unnecessary clutter. With as many rows that exist, the order of lessons performed on adjacent levels is insignificant. Although I prefer the new look, I like options such as a show/hide lines feature. That said, I'm just thrilled this is an extremely well done, free service. I look forward to the addition of new languages, like Arabic and some other European languages.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/J.DavidCR

    Thanks a lot, all improvements are welcome. I hope japanese could be available, as well as the feature of learn french, italian and portuguese from spanish (since they share some common linguistic cores). Thanks again for the site and keep doing such good work.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Celine1988
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    I absolutely love the hard work you put in developing this website. But I have to agree, that I do not like the new tree. I think that I even lost lessons, since yesterday I had 12 different lessons left to finish my tree and now it is 9.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist
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    I'm curious as to exactly how much faster the test subjects got through using the new interface than the last one? Also, how large were the sample sizes? By the way, I'm neutral on the new layout, but I am very interested in the UX process.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/maildor

    Can you add a feature that enables the old layout. Like a option switch or something?

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/MauriceTra1
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    I am an English language teacher and translator and I am studying Spanish in order to increase my translation skills to include Spanish to English. My core work is Portuguese to English. What I want to comment on is that people need more discipline. I have suggest Duolingo to many of our students and friends and it is just unbelievable the lack of discipline. People just start and stop, they need to continue on every day, even if it is just a little. Keep plugging at it. Luiz you really know how to make a win-win situation. I admire you and your work, but when you speak in public, try to speak slower and more calmly as I show your videos to my students and everyone thinks you speak too fast. Please accept my humble opinion as positive criticism. You have so much to say as your mind works even faster than your mouth.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/vane2805

    I do not agree with CSID-DONE I like this tree, I really like I like I am delighted not understand before now know much more than before

    PS: If you want to be my followers thanks

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/minilauren
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    Yay certificates! It would be great if you could verify identities and do a plug in widget with LinkedIn!

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/bpopes
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    I did a search for "linkedin" and I was wondering if this has been implemented? (sorry for the post resurrection xD)

    4 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/TenDeuChen
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    This new layout's pretty bland and boring. Really, if you're not smart enough to understand a simple flow chart, you're probably not smart enough to learn a second language.

    5 years ago

    https://www.duolingo.com/Vatnid
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    I just saw this and this might be a bit difficult to adapt. But, I think I'll get used to it very soon. Nice design!

    5 years ago

    [deactivated user]

      I now have the new look. PLEASE bring back the lines!!! I loved the lines design better. It more organized, and kept me motivated.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/detharon

      Same here. And I found the previous tree to be way more intuitive, after all it was the most standard skill tree found everywhere.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/ziggKogg
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      Yes I agree, the lined way was much better.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/BSAMurrell

      I feel exactly the same. Bring back the progress tree!

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/_Megan18_

      I like it with out the lines.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/CadetheBruce
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      I can't say I'm thrilled with the new tree layout. It look very bland, kind of what you'd expect from typical cookie-cutter language methods. It just lookes like "Learn this, and then learn this next, and then learn this next". I prefer the previous "flow chart" look: it had a sense of you progressing rather than just moving on to the next task and I never found it confusing myself.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/cloudhorizon

      I agree with you completely, I get that it'll be easier for people to make languages with the language incubator, but the sense of progress has definitely lessened for me. Maybe the lines and the flow of the skills before gave me the impression of moving down a literal path towards my goal. Now it seems like jumping between different groups of tasks, as you say. Oh well. :P

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Zweetok
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      My impression was that Duolingo was supposed to be designed similar to that of a game - gaining levels, unlocking new lessons, mastering lessons - the old flow chart design, with everything linking together, fit in better with what I thought was the idea behind Duolingo and the thing that made it unique. Seeing it now, I feel that it has lost its charm and appeal and I hope that Duolingo reconsiders the re-design.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/drevil

      I have to say, you are completely right... I love role playing games, and the interface of duolingo looked quite familiar to a skill tree to me... Was a lot more motivating than the row-by-row as we see it today.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Zythey

      yes, i agree, i think that the whole design is important to the motavation of users.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Lord_Ian_Klop
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      Hello Zachary, I have found you... Just to comment back, yes it does motivate.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Zythey

      the old one was better for motivation for me. btw hi :j

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/GabrielaOtero

      I'm with you, the old tree was funnier :(

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/BLPK
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      more fun?

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/GabrielaOtero

      ops, yes

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/patbo
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      Moving down a path versus jumping around is quite a good description. I feel the same.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/ananda89

      I couldn't agree more about this thing, I do prefer that the old one suites me better too. because its literary people are moving down the path to reach their goal.

      but aside of all things, I've been said, I'm giving applaud to the Duolingo staff that has providing this. Bon travail,.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/chocomix
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      I also liked the flow chart's way of showing things. If it is possible, having the option to have it shown one way or the other would be fantastic, but I will continue to love duolingo regardless. =)

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/michaldh
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      Well, the lines were indeed like the path to go... I'm a bit confused with the new layout... :.( In fact, now I have a row with one skill completed and the other not completed yet, but the next row is already unlocked ?!? Anyway, if it cannot be changed i'm sure every keen learner will learn to live with it as well

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/monkeysee

      For anyone about to do so, skip the next several posts down to Zweetok, it's just a circle jerk about providing constructive criticism.

      4 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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      I should mention again that in over a month of testing the two designs side by side, we saw people progress through the new trees more than through the old ones. I would encourage you to give it a try.

      5 years ago

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      It's unfortunate, as I saw a lot of potential for the branching skill-tree style approach. Would have been really useful for developing specialized knowledge, like business vs. conversational topics. What would be really interesting is if there was an option to switch back to the old view after a week or so, and see how many people made the switch back. Rebrand it Duolingo Classic ;)

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/anachron

      caedisius, that is the first really good argument I've seen here. Maybe at a later date when Duo is bigger and a language has many more lessons, such a system should be introduced.

      I really like the idea where you follow the path of the tree toward specialized knowledge which you are interested in. I don't think it was right for Duo at this moment, but they should really consider reintroduce a skill tree approach in the future.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Duo2012
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      I think it would look neater without the horizontal dividing lines. The blocks are lined up horizontally anyway so whitespace could act as a tidier divider.

      For example

      http://imgur.com/cM9y7Wn

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/javax
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      I'm not sure about that, I prefer those lines.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

      I agree. I think those lines look out of place.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Brice
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      i think the paths linking skills were part of duolingo's appeal. would it be up to me, i would have decorated those and made them more apparent. i understand that it might be more practical for the incubator and for assiduous learners, but i also think that people would enjoy a nicely themed layout :)

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

      I'm not talking about those lines. I'm talking about the lines in the new layout that you see in between rows of skills. Those are the ones that I think look out of place.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/amuzulo
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      I personally like the lines. When I beat a row, it feels like I'm breaking past the line to the next section of lessons.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Lebdref1
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      I guess that'd look better. Then again perhaps they already try it with 10% of the users. Really a great way to find out what works and one of the reasons I love this site.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Evelyn_S

      Hmm. That's a nice design, for sure. But people wouldn't know which lesson they're going to next.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/SidSunny

      I think you could keep an option in the settings for the layout of the skill tree. This way people could themselves choose whichever design they liked and so everyone would be happy. And yes, CHEERS to DUOLINGO team for such an awesome language learning website. :)

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/TimothyGeek

      Excellent! I'm completely neutral with the new layout, but if it works better, I say that's great!

      I just thought I'd mention that I have seen another method used elsewhere: you could include a little button that reverts to the old skill tree layout. That way if somebody doesn't like it, they could go back to the old version. I know somebody else mentioned that; I'm just reinforcing it.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Duo2012
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      Two versions of the tree carries a cost in extra development/support. I imagine Duolingo would prefer to put those resources towards new features.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/TimothyGeek

      It wouldn't require extra support; most sites backup old versions of their site anyway. They had something similar very recently - some users had the new tree, and other users had the old tree - so all they'd need to do is set it up so users can control which tree they have. It wouldn't be very difficult.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/VStarTraveler

      I think I was one of the guinea pigs using the new horizontal rows version and I've had no issue with it at all. You can still work within the group of one to three skills at your own pace. For those switching from some of the older connected flow charts, give it a try and you'll be moving forward through your skill tree again in no time.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Rhenor
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      I'm willing to trust you on this. At the moment, I'm a little unhappy, but I'm willing to accept that's just because it's change. May I ask what this change actually improves? So far you've mentioned that users progress faster through the tree with the current layout, but can you give a little more detail on that or perhaps give some of the other benefits?

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/sparklypumpkin

      ok, ill try!

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/sebas7777
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      A flow in testing methodology :)?

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/ksoccerguy

      I am a recent user, and like the new style, but I would like a way to learn Austrian.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/irinel12

      You mean German which is already on the list. Good luck!

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/dudly
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      Austrian and German are not the exact same. Austrian is closer to bavarian - though I doubt the site will start adding dialects and regional variations. Pity.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/irinel12

      German could be a good start to learning other dialects.But if you are intersted to go in Austria, German is all you need.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Zythey

      yea, i might be that we just are not used to it, users who are totally new might like it better.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/TKu
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      Thank you for all your hard work! I really appreciate this opportunity!!!

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/kelleenfarrell

      I hate it when people ask for comments and then, when they are unhappy with the response, say, "we tested it. Give it a try." As if the person commenting is just wrong. Don't ask the question if you are not ready for the answer. Ceid-Donn was making a valid observation.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/banay

      now test it again with the old look and see they'll progress faster thorugh the old design.

      actuelly don't, stop running tests on pplz

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/pneuros

      I think you missed the part where the rest of us still had the old look and they already compared two groups. (I like the old look better too, because it felt like a video-game skill tree.)

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/korenhe

      agree, so we can imagine ourselves as in a "role play games", gain experience and got skill points then be stronger and beat the boss....

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Kilyle
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      This was definitely one of the pulls for me. I remember watching the Extra Credits episode about Gamification - the use of game-like elements to make chores/drills such as school work more engaging to the user. More engagement means that the user benefits more both during the activity (it's fun) and after (it's memorable).

      While I realize that complexity leads to an additional workload, it's a certain level of complexity that makes this feel less like a drill and more like a game, and that has benefits that must be taken into account. I'll be giving this new layout a fair shot, but I hope it doesn't feel too much like my old learning methods, because I've studied dozens of languages on my own (focusing on the early stuff, comparative mechanics) and I was excited to see that this seemed very unlike my usual methods.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/banay

      no.. i was basing my point on that. the reason they were practicing and progressing better is cause it was new.

      thats why, if he would try it again with the old look he would get same results

      if you want it fair- do a vote.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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      We tested both side by side on completely fresh users who had never seen either tree before.

      I am sorry you don't like the change. We're working as hard as we can to make Duolingo better. We definitely listen to our community, but I would ask for a little bit of trust on our development process.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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      Personally, I like the new structure. But, I think the problem here is not the change(there will always be resistance to change), but the communication. If you hid the tree and only presented the lessons in a drop-down GUI (the users would be none the wiser) and wouldn't care/know about the structure at all.

      However, since the tests are often not widespread and are carried out on a small sample, and then introduced, some people tend to be annoyed by changes.

      More transparency(stats) on the tests conducted or information on upcoming features may decrease this frustration. I see advantages to your approach of only making promises you can deliver on, but this criticism is the other side of the coin.

      As a researcher, I'm sure you can appreciate the need for empirical evidence.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

      "Learn this, and then learn this next, and then learn this next."

      Isn't that what you do anyways? No matter how the tree looks? You go from one skill to the next. I don't see the problem at all.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/Kilyle
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      Yeah, and the more that this is obvious, the more it feels like drill instead of fun.

      This is about completing one or more lessons to unlock more difficult lessons. I get that. But the original design had me deciding (for example) whether I wanted to unlock Clothing by working my way through People and Animals, or first head over toward Greetings to unlock Present-Tense Verbs, etc.; all of these would need to be done before I could move on to Prepositions, but by having the drill quality masked via this "unlocking" - in an order chosen by the player - it felt very different from just sitting at one list after the other after the other.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/leoroschi
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      You're totally right, but they just don't see it.

      5 years ago

      https://www.duolingo.com/blackwind
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      That's the point. It's to turn it into a game.

      5 years ago

      [deactivated user]

        That's exactly how I felt about the older design. I do hope they bring it back or maybe add the option for users to choose? Kind of like having more than one look/design to choose for your tree.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/lilybean20

        I totally agree with u

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/JoshuaFisher

        I like this design better, but other than that I agree

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Suchiththa

        I'm in total agreement with this. I preferred the previous system, because it addressed the complex interdependencies in languages in a very intuitive way. It allowed for the usage of words in a previous, unrelated lesson to be tested subconsciously (which I'm sure this system does too), but in a way that made sense to the user later on. I don't think this is as good Duo. Sorry.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/scienc3

        I agree but still love the site. Thank you.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/up_the_irons

        I also agree. The previous look simply looked "cooler", unique. The new one is bland.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/luotuo
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        I can't agree with you anymore. The "flow chart" flow makes me feel good. And the current look is boring

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/FrankReese

        This is exactly it. now it seems to be levels, but before it seemed to have a little bit of a flow. This might be more effective but it's hardly as appealing as it looked before.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/pxgray

        I agree, this new layout seems to be a step backward, it makes the site look bland. I love Duolingo and I will definitely keep using it, but I did love the flowchart layout.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/StepanBoswartPG

        I am a language teacher and course creator. This change in structure makes perfectly sense if you need to create and support Duolingo courses through the community for many more languages (Chinese, Russian, Telugu ... you name it).

        If anything, learning a foreign language is not linear, but rather a movement in a circle. You start in the centre with the most frequent structures and vocabulary and move to the outside to more specific pools.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/gemini_dream

        I would love to see a ring structure or at least a fan structure for the lesson tree, in that case; as you gained more proficiency in core skills, it would be clear that the range of choices open to you was increasing, and it would restore some of the game-like feel.

        I think that it is likely that there are some people who progress faster and further using a tree structure, but others who progress faster using the new layout. It's too bad that they can't accommodate both kinds of learners.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/lolaphilologist
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        I agree

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/SergeantFTC

        Total agreement.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/MaryMcC
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        You really think it makes a difference? I hadn't even noticed until I saw the blue information box at the top of the page.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/konsuntier
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        Agree 100%. I loved the skill tree. The new design is off-putting. It looks menial.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/kaiyes
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        I agree.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/exemerson
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        I agree

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/playingtowin

        agreed

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/MechFactions
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        I also have found that this new look is rather step-by-step. I preferred the old way, because it gave you more of a breakdown, if not quite so many choices as to what to learn next, but it was still rather nice how it gave you the sense of moving from lesson to lesson, as opposed to how things are now clumped and undefined. I also never had any trouble with the flowchart, and I am a relatively new user. Honestly, I think this new layout is much more confusing than the other way was. The other way drew clear lines between lessons, telling you how you could maneuver around rather than just have them all in a clump. I think that on a user-friendly basis, the other way was much more self-explanatory and that this is just kind of uncertain and strange.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/CynDaVaz

        I feel the same way as you do. I liked the 'flow chart' look much better than this new one. :/

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Chris.55

        I completely agree with you. Just when I was motivated to do another lesson today (;-()

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/smalyshev
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        I too liked the flowchart one and it appealed to me as a computer professional :) But I can see how it might be a bit unusual for people with different background. The new one is not that bad either, it still has a sense of progress and I'm sure I'll get used to it pretty soon.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/elisa.baasch

        I agree

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Hamij7

        I very much agree with Ceid-Donn and cloudhorizon. I thought the old way felt like I was on a journey, now I feel like I am floating in space and the fun has certainly decreased. Oh well, I am still working hard. Still, thank you for providing this service

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/ChrisFeath1

        I agree, I far preferred the tree layout. I imagine it'd be too complicated to give users the choice of which layout they'd prefer?

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/mangata

        yeah! I agree with you absolute. It can be told like "C'est nul" in French! We only just learn this andddd that. :-(

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/prmichaelsen

        I find that the new layout engages me more! I like to have a choice between learning say, plurals, animals or foods next.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/danielley22

        it is cool i like it

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Alex_Tzb
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        More languages!! YES! :D

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/cdhicks1

        I think I should be able to jump to other lessons such as places, numbers, medical etc to learn a few things before traveling. the rest can come later. I enjoy the course though.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/jamofthetoe

        I think I can get used to this new layout but might I suggest a toggle for people who don't and/or can't? personally I agree with Ceid-Donn in that it looks kind of bland, but if Duolingo thinks its more efficient who am I to argue?

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/LingoDj
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        Please stop playing with the layout and just fix the speech in Portuguese. It's totally incomprehensible.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/gretagirl22

        It's clear; it's concise. I like it.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/harpgliss
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        I really love Duolingo the new way or the old. Participating in the discussions following the answers has been helpful and interesting.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/N8-0
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        hehe... I don't really see a difference... Probably because I always try to master lessons that were next to each other...

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/mare_sargasso
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        I'm very thankful firstly for Mr. von Ahn and then for the staff that created and are still working on this great project, however I myself am disappointed with the new skill tree. There should be route lines depending on pre-requirements, to follow on as before.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/lalinguiste
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        The visual look of the tree doesn't really make a difference to me either way; the skills are all still there, and I'm still able to progress through them. So if it has been shown that the new layout helps users progress and will be easier to use for people working on new languages (yay!), I'm all for it. In a few days I'll get used to it and won't even notice the difference anymore. We still have a great language learning resource that is provided to us free of cost. Thank you Duolingo team!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/kbogovic
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        It would be nice if all news like this also go to blog.duolingo.com It's pretty inactive there, right?

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/bawi1302

        Like the new layout. Over the past days I noticed, that skills I previously had were taken away. Is that part of the learning? I am fairly new to Duolingo.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Raluca06

        I liked it better with the old look. It made sense more, like things were connected. Now it's all classic and lacks imagination. It feels like you are in a game and you need to score points to go to the next level.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/anapopovakirov

        my husband and I started on duolingo couple weeks back. We had two different trees from very beginning :) The one with lines felt like fun indeed, but maybe too much. I prefer the groundness of the other look with the rows, seems a little more serious and efficient. I like to have more than one lesson unlocked: it's nice to have different tasks and switch between them. Give it a time, guys.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/kiernanmc

        If Duolingo says it makes users progress faster and more successfully, I'm all for it.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/irinel12

        Personally, I loved the old look of Duolingo skill tree, but I get used to this new one with no problems, I think you have decided to change it by observing the statistics. Thank you and keep doing this great work!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/cassiolalola

        Cool! It looks great! Thanks for duolingo. it's truly the most brilliant language website I've ever used (and I've used a lot!)

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/yetanothername
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        Well, since this will only be my 5th day using duolingo, maybe I didn't have too much time to get used to the old layout. I can tell a difference, but it doesn't seem like a huge change to me.

        I think the site is great. I have a few ideas to suggest, but figured I'd hold off until I'm more familiar with things. One of my ideas was actually already there, but I didn't know where to look for it at first.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/jonathanvair
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        In my wildest dreams somebody in the Asante dialect shares their language with Duolingo.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/rodolfo.vivero

        i really liked the previous scheme. But more than that what i noticed in the previous days was a little different solutions' behavior; it was more precise ... this kind of improvements are really appreciated, despite not being announced.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Kaylajg76

        thank you for the changes :)

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Chris.55

        Spent more time reading posts today than doing lessons!! Work PC still had the old path showing, and I have deliberately not refreshed it so I can compare the two in a week's time. At present I still do not like the new look and in consequent less motivated by it -perhaps a good thing as it reminds me to use other sources and forms of practice instead of looking at a PC screen. I concur with the view of one or two others, who in the spirit of 'if it ain't broke -don't fix it', have suggested that development time would be better spent on adding more lessons and fixing bugs. That apart thanks for the good times DL!!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Norberto23

        This is really great. I tried several times to see old lessons to practice and I couldn't do it. Now I'm again going into this old words and this is doing great... Thank you very much your are doing and excellent project with all this. I'm anxious to see the language incubators this will be fun...!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Pret813

        I'm new to Duolingo so I can't compare the current layout to any previous version. I think the tree layout looks and works just fine. I don't wish for anything different.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/fractal_noise

        I love trees.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Cheryl1
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        I like the new, clean look! Although I liked the concept of a knowledge tree, given the mascot is an owl who lives in a tree:) I also can see how the tree concept would never work when people start incubating new languages.

        With some encouragement, the user community, could come up with a set of owl life cycle terms to identify the maturity of a user created course. Owlet (just hatched), fledgling (lacking in content but making progress toward a mature course), adult (a matured course) and breeder (a mature course where new concepts and content are being added). Perhaps a silly idea, but thought that I'd just throw it out there.. The graphics designers could have a blast creating images to go along with the various owl related course maturity designations.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/BLPK
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        It's very strange to me how interested people seem in the look of the thing, when the content seems pretty much the same. Can someone point me to a similar comment line as this but on the content of the teaching? I love DL but look forward to many improvements in teaching method and content, such as incorporating more context in the lessons. The exercise sentences often approach nonsense and don't seem to me the way our brains process language learning, which all seems related to context. In other words, the separate words don't mean anything outside the phrases, sentences, paragraphs where they're located. But of course it does seem that DL is going to program itself to a much better level very quickly. LOVE IT.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/prky
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        I would like to see Duolingo modify the Skill Tree to allow the choice for older users to change their tree back to the old format. For those of us on for almost a year, this is the format we are used to. New learners can begin with the new format, and then have the choice to change if they like.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/jackthebiotic

        I don't think this was good at all - I had Numbers mastered and now I have to do it all over again. Plus, most skills I do don't count - its very annoying.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Noe010101
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        To tell the truth I really liked the previous one, it was much "technical"like, now it is more simple, in the older one I felt it more "serious", now it's kind of "tedious", but it is just my opinion, however, I hope the structure will stay as it is:) Saludos para todos.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/clancy7

        The other tree layout was more interesting and just as useful. I don't like the new one.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/doubleube45

        If I am learning another language and not paying for it....you can make any changes you want as long as those two things remain. Duolingo is awesome, the design makes no difference to me!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/lordnacho
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        What needs to be understood is the quantity of data that is collected and analyzed before making these changes. If you would read the post, it states that there was "... progress through the new trees more than through the old ones." This wasn't a case of "moving our cheese" so to speak, but rather refining the process to make it better. BETTER. I enjoyed the lines as well because it added to the "gamification" factor to me; made it reminiscent of an MMORPG style skill tree. But some of the lines were arbitrary at best and at the end of the day, the goal is to learn a language so if this change helps to better accomplish that then I think it's the right move.

        Remember, Duolingo's ultimate long-term survival depends on the ability to monetize the service that they are providing (teaching you and me language(s)) which is reliant on the quality of education we are provided. It is in Duo's best interest to teach us in the best way possible and I've been pleased with the results so far so I think they're on the right track.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Laura51

        When I first started the program, it was very difficult to know how to go to the next section. For a while, I was just practicing, always, until my daughter told me how to continue on. So, I can see how this new way will be a benefit those who are just beginning. Thanks for your thoughtfulness.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Laura51

        I really appreciate how we keep building step by step to increase our knowledge of the language. I have tried many programs, but this one has worked out the best for me. We can see how far we have come and then how much we yet have to accomplish. It is wonderful!!!! It teaches us how to go from one language to another and the transition is very smooth. I like that also! In French, there are many different ways to say the same thing, I like knowing that also. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR PROGRAM!!!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/reject86

        Personally, I don't like the change. I would love it if they would add an option to keep the old layout on our particular accounts, if we so choose.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/SpanishSeeker

        To be honest I hate the new layout.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Surreal01

        I hope Japanese is added. Starting off with teaching how to read the writing style first. And then the usual format afterward like how it's done for Spanish and Italian. And as the context is read, both styles the traditional Japanese writing, and the Romaji/romanized version could both be used. Should also add Russian.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/crawfordjeremiah

        cooooooooooooll!!!!!!!!!! THANKS PEOPLE OF THIS WEBSITE!!!!!!!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/crawfordjeremiah

        cooooooooooooll!!!!!!!!!! THANKS PEOPLE OF THIS WEBSITE!!!!!!!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/imagenthatnj

        I love all your changes! The amazing app is so great looking (I'm a designer) that I can't stop myself from coming over to do more and more lessons! Great work! I love the new tree on the app, too. Simple, modern, streamlined.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/shpectorov

        I did like the former design better, a lot better in fact.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/jagdeugen

        Why don't you create an option of getting the old skill tree back, so the old duo users may unlock the skills via familiar&sensetive tree? The new look&feel way of progress could be kept as the default for the new ones. Come to a compromise, please!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/altaloma

        And I didn't even notice the difference!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Patti63

        To be honest I noticed something was different but what exactly it was I wasn't sure... I started with the flow chart and thought it to be a little confusing, but then it was okay...now you have changed it again and I find it more regimental, but also okay... for newer users I think that the update is probably easier to use....it is the old user that doesn't like 'change"- people don't like change that is human fact...But everyone will adjust if they want to learn...good work duolingo

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/pgrant

        Initially, I wasn't a fan of the layout change but now I'm beginning to like it. I've found that if i attempt and fail a section, work on a different section then go back a retry the section I failed I usually do better the second time. Before I'd get discouraged when I failed a section more then once and stop using the app for days. I think the new layout is better suited for a wider range of learning styles. Thats my two cents, thought you guys should know... I really like the app

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Alexbotn

        C'est bon!!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/McCake1

        C'est super cool!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/ArianneAZ

        What I care about is the quality of the program and that it's FREE. I hope Duolingo adds more languages for me to learn. (I want Japanese and Korean, thanks!)

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/cbilgir
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        I have been using Duolingo for a little while only, and my first two language selections (German and Spanish) were with the branching skill tree, which I loved, When I added French, it was this new style, and I have to say I was not motivated enough to move through the exercises as I was with the branching skill tree. I too agree that now it looks a little bland, I think the branching skill tree was definitely a string marketing point. And I definitely agree the comments about specialization, in particular for vocabulary groups, which could have been easily added to the branching skill tree in further development. I understand that it shows promise and is more suitable for the language incubators, but I think having the option to switch your skill tree would be incredibly beneficial. I am not sure how much work it requires to add such an option, but for people like me, it would mean a lot. I have been on sort of a vacation so I was away from Duolingo for a while, and I was completely bummed out about my new "leveled" skill trees. The fun is gone.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/jforman818

        I absolutely love it! I am so thankful to have found such a fun and easy way of learning new languages. Thanks Duolingo!! :)

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/robbiedkat

        This looks like there's a problem with it. It looks unfinished or like things aren't lined up right. I think you have some bugs in your system still.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/BrettHanco

        I like the new update. The horizontal subjects seem related (e.g. animals and food - English is one of the few languages where many foods and the source animal have different names) and generally I feel like I'm making steady progress under the new structure. Don't feel like I understand the difference from the flowchart model, but I was near the start of Spanish so I may not have gained the benefits.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/SilfenP

        I am not sure what all the fuss is about as I have not found using Duolingo in any way adversely impacted by these changes. The real issue I think is that the human race is typically resistant to change for the most part, however for things like this, once we get used to the differences, we almost forget how it used to be. Lets just move on guys and girls and enjoy the fantastic language learning experience that Duolingo provides us :-)

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/kmcbrennan

        I am grateful for the way this program works and that it is a free app. I like the way it works to help strengthen your words and I guess I do not focus on the game part of it as much, because I do not do too many games online anyway, but I find this very user friendly and easy to use.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Nullroar
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        I'll trust you on this layout. This is by far the best language software I've ever used.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/TxClaireBear

        I am enjoying the new layout and I do feel as though I am progressing through the material more quickly. A year of standard classroom Spanish doesn't even compare to this program, the ease at which it teaches the language is fantastic. Thank you for such an a amazing product and for FREE!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/nashtown1

        I like everything about duolingo. I have the other program with the 5 levels but I like duolingo better. Thanks for the free program and keep up the good work guys. Thanks. Jim

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/d2coutinho
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        Amazing app, amazing service. Thanks for testing and caring about UI and UX. I will never leave

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/mgstrein

        I honestly liked the old style better. This is certainly not a deal breaker for me, and I will continue to use the site, but given the choice between the old world and this new one - I would take the old one. Progression in the old world was more gratifying.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/ayePete
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        Well, seeing as I'm relatively a new member on this site, maybe I don't catch what the grouse people have about this new design is yet. All I want to say is, this is the best free online language learning service (don't know much about paid ones), and I am grateful to the staff of Duolingo for giving this gift to us. Yeah, they may be gaining from us in a way, but if you ask me, this is a very normal, if not expected thing. How else do we expect them to keep the servers going, pay staff and cater for other expenses? And, yeah, who would go into any business without an aim at making profit? Besides, translating documents for them helps solidify your grasp of the language. So, it's a two-way symbiosis where everyone ends up happy! Thanks, Duolingo, for such a clever, smart project!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/koltonlane

        Sometimes change is a bad thing. Sometimes change is a good thing. In this case I think it's a good thing.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Kalquimarke

        Everytime I get into Duolingo through pc's browser It is better and better. Congratulations!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/koltonlane

        I wish the mobile app looked the same as the pc version.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/imagenthatnj

        But mobile app is just beautiful! I wish PC version looked like the mobile.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/mcdeninmenzo

        so excited to learn more! :D

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Ross2121

        This learning a new language is so much fun using this App. I am currently learning brazilian portuguese so I can watch UFC and not having to rely on a translator after the somebody from brazil wins! I also speak mexican spanish! A huevo!!!!!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/kanjimanji

        You may also add a the following feature: chat between members of similar or equal skills/levels. They will be encouraged to make coherent conversation with one another. Incentive: every correctly typed word gives points, etc. It be fun.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/london_robbie

        I love Duolingo...I am learning Spanish and this is a wonderful tool. I would like, however, the opoortunity to be able to print all the words learned so I can read through them on a daily basis at tea break at work and help get the words further fixed in my head. Well done Duolingo for all your work..I'm here for keeps :)

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/imagenthatnj

        Make sure you go to the Vocabulary tab and all the words you've learned are there. You can sort in alphabetical order and on the right they're separated by lesson. I usually print those lists of words. Or, you can check each word and get the grammar, sample sentences, conjugation tables, etc. I sometimes print (or make PDFs) those pages if something doesn't get into my head from going through the lessons on the iPad app.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/bhick002

        Makes no difference for me. Thanks for improving and trying to get better.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/rimovic

        I am very glad to learn Spanish this way. Fantastic

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/kam123

        who cares what the skill tree looks like all we really need is the lessons that are taught who cares about how the stupid skill tree looks

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/55nunca55

        Nothing ever remains the same, so we adjust and continue to grow.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Alexlerman910

        thanks!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/ewp1200

        When duolingo first came out, I started using it and loved it. Told all of my friends about it who were looking for an excellent, inexpensive way to learn new languages. Used some of the same learning tools from Rosetta Stone, etc. I personally stopped using it for a while bc I am minoring in French and had enough to do in school. I've since come back and I can say that both the flow chart in the beginning and the new row by row methods don't change my learning experience. However, some users may prefer one over the other. From DL's perspective, they have seen that users learn faster with this new design and that is one of their goals. Since that is there goal here, I'd advise each user to use this new design and measure yourself to see if you are learning faster. Then, if you aren't, let them know so that adjustments can be made.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/johnschmidt67

        Response is slow

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Alice54_Maree3.

        I personally preferred the look of the old skill tree but as far as learning the language goes,it makes no difference to me The learning matter is still the same and I for one am not going to let a visual preference interfere with actual learning

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/mayble22

        I never saw the previous interface, so maybe my opinion is uncalled for. However I believe I have a few things to say that haven't been said. The new Duolingo is incredibly easy for me to use, and simple and pleasant to the eye. I feel a huge amount of progression and satisfaction with my speed of learning. My mother has promised me and my home-educated sister a trip to Paris, if we learn french fluently before the end of 2014. She is tutoring us both, but she does not have enough time to teach us every day, so we utilise every online tutoring resource that we can find. Duolingo has enabled us to make great leaps in our education and as it's free, we never have to worry that we are going to be confronted with an astronomical bill at the end of the month. All I can say is that I am hugely grateful to Duolingo and I will never complain about the interface, as it's not that that counts but the content. Thank you for listening. XXX

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/MadYui
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        The ios7 upgrade looked a little childish and weird 2 months ago, now looks perfect. That's so strange! haha!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/OksimF

        Why does the skill tree appear different in the browser for different users. In our house, we have several different users and have noticed that even today there are three different appearances to the tree.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/vanshitabatra

        its GOOOOOD

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/bethfried45

        Your sentence should read: "Before, we had lines between skills, and these lines led you to unlocked skills." (not "lead") I don't usually correct errors I see online, but you folks teach language. You need to be especially careful.

        4 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta
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        Awesome! Why don't I have it yet?

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Luis
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        You will very soon.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/nathansk8s
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        At the top of the tree it said there were lessons added? Is that just referring to the tree design or are there actual lessons added to the tree? I still have 72 skills. Anyways I liked the old tree and the new one. I know you put a lot of work and testing into all the new updates so I believe you when you say it's more effective. I don't mind the change, change is good when a positive goal is where the change is leading you too. Which hear is being more effective at language learning. In a month or two people will forget about the old tree anyways :P lol

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Matt.Cooksey

        Fun

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/makemusic
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        Yay! I have it now! This is so great! :)

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Samsta
        Samsta
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        Thanks! I have it now.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/OgKofB

        this is great! when will you add simplfied chinese?

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/SergeantFTC

        When someone who can speak it adds it after the full launch of the incubator.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/OgKofB

        thanks for the heads up!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

        Np.:)

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Rosamamados

        Thanks

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/magdahirsch
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        I am very happy to read these news. It is another proof that you are all the time doing better things in this site. Thank you and move forward!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/tpbremer

        Question... having just started and looking at the tree. Is the bottom of the tree the end? (learning Spanish). There is a guy w/ a bow and arrow there. Wondering if that is the last lesson, or if more are unlocked that I don't see yet.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/IceScream

        I dont like the new mail..

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/jamezzzr
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        I liked the previous version more, but the current one is also fine. But I really hope that the developers of Duolingo will come up with the next, new language levels (i.e. 'ninja' level in French and Italian or smth like this).

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/JayKuz

        Well, I'm just excited about the new languages (: P.S. Have any of you completed a language course? I'm just wondering does it teach you all the tenses and will you actually be able to speak it well when you are done or is it just the basics?

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/IG88
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        I like it. I think it looks much tidier and more intuitive than before.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/dluser123
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        While I love Duolingo and very much appreciate having such a wonderful place to learn a language for free, I am sometimes, like now with this new Skill Tree, disappointed by you guys putting your efforts into unnecessary changes that don't make much difference for the better if any. Duolingo's changes sometime remind me of the silly, unnecessary, and unwanted changes Facebook makes that make users more irritated than appreciative.

        May I suggest that rather than spending your valuable time and efforts on changes like this Skill Tree change, you improve the actual content, such as add more words and practice sentences, and include more sentences used in various real life situations? Also, it seems to me that whatever algorithms/methods you use to keep track of when I last saw a word or a sentence needs improvement, as it seems that I get the same silly sentences or the same words over and over when I practice while other words are ignored.

        And oh ... one other suggestion that I was just reminded of: please fix whatever it is that causes "Timed Practice" to test me on new words that I have not been taught before! The strange thing is that I don't get the new words when I practice without a timer when I have more time and don't mind checking the new word, but I almost always get them during timed practice (like I just did a moment ago)!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/JtSinger37
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        I am dismayed at the number of posts like this that suggest that Duolingo is "putting [their] efforts into unnecessary changes that don't make much difference for the better if any". These posts demonstrate ignorance in research methods utilized to make an informed decision about implementing the changes that Duolingo makes. This is not intended to be an insult but instead, an observation. To be ignorant is to not know, or lack understanding of something.

        I'm not suggesting that no one is allowed to complain, or that they shouldn't have an opinion (favorable or otherwise), but that they should make educated critique instead of off-the-cuff remarks suggesting that Duolingo wastes their time on silly things. As someone else in this thread posted, the seeming absence of activity on Duolingo's part does not mean that there is a lack of activity.

        Thank you, Duolingo, and may all further changes be the result of educated decisions such as the one made to the skill trees!

        With that, good luck with your language-learning pursuits NN7!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/dluser123
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        I am equally dismayed by an arrogant post that suggests that "research methods" are perfect and flawless and places them above actual users' experience and values them more highly than users feedback!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/rodolfo.vivero

        what? are there going to be major changes yet?, i am confused ....

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/yugboy1

        Thanks for unlocking a skill!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/Ana_Greta

        The level one was eassy to me because I´m actually attending German.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/scottann

        Power to you guys! you never cease to amaze me. You are always user driven!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/netion23

        I think the new look is very stream-lined, and looks less cluttered. I liked the old setting, but I think this will be a good improvement!

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/snoopy7777

        I'm almost to the end of the French tree . I sent an E-Mail to DL wondering if they had any plans to expand their French course . I'd be interested in continuing to use DL if they are going to add more lessons , etc . Does anyone else feel the same way ????

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/cdntinpusher

        Lessons are periodically extended, I think, but once you complete the tree, the thing to do is start doing the Translations under the Immersion tab. You will learn a lot more this way than just by continuing doing the lessons. Once I completed my tree, I do Immersion until I see that some of my skills have lost their gold color and then I go back to redo those skills. Interestingly, when I do that, I find that the sentences are often different than I remember from the first go around, so I am not sure if new sentences are being added or if when you go through it the first time you are just doing part of the database for that skill.

        5 years ago

        https://www.duolingo.com/snoopy7777

        Thanx so much for the feedback . It really helps .

        5 years ago

        [deactivated user]

          I think they mentioned that they will expand the lessons for the existing languages. I don't know when though.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/snoopy7777

          Glad to hear that . Addictions Need to be fed :)

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/TheGrimlin

          I really am over joyed with the new tree, i am, but then some negatives that I have are that when the new tree updated on my account, I lost lessons that I unlocked got locked again and i'm pretty mad about that. Other than that, I really do enjoy the new tree and hope that better updates will come to make duolingo even better. To be honest, I think this will mean lots of success to lots of people. I guarantee it to all duolingo users. I think everyone will have a good time. This site is awesome, I mean really, you can buy,earn money, and lots of other cool features that dramatically made this site so addicting. Peace out. :)

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/paramount81

          I appreciate the explanation, and the new diagram may more accurately reflect the process. The former diagram suggested an overlapping complexity to the structure of the language. I can't comment on the whether that complexity actually exists or not, but the learning mode here is of the rote, immersion variety. You learn of the existence of complexity by making mistakes, not by a concerted study of structure.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/TheGrimlin

          NICE

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/adanova

          Congratulations. It looks way better now. Thanks for the improvements!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/charper10

          Dislike

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/code010001

          i dig the new look, cant wait to dig into it

          get it...no.... :-'(

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/spring1

          It looks wonderful - Extremely helpful

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/anrua
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          Didn't like it

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/DortmundDaisy

          I noticed you were hiring people. Why don´t you do something really different and start looking for new employees through who is doing best by learning new languages? Can someone get in touch with me about this please? I do like Duolingo very much and am tearing through German. And no, I do not see anything negative with new layout. That said, I am using this about 5 to 6 hours a day in prep for German DSH test and it is a lot easier and more intuitive and even um addictive and preferable to learning this crap the old way. TRUST ME.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Anonyduck

          I am alarmed every time Duo fine tunes, lol! But I do like the new layout. I find it definitely cleaner, more aesthetic and think it will probably give a better sense of progression. So I went from 'OMG! Change! Ahhhhhh! I will never finish my tree!' to 'Actually... this doesn't look too bad' in a short space of time. So, optimistic about the new layout.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/House4
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          I'm excited to use the new tree.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/MihaMetl

          You should never change something as significant as the UI of an app on a phone without the users permission. It's one thing to do it on your website but something completely else to do it on somebodies device. Push an update trough the itunes/play store that does that, changing it in the background or even after exiting lessons as some users reported makes it seem as if the app is doing something shady in the background. It raises the question if it can change itself without the users explicit permission, what else can it do that its not supposed to.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
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          You guys at Duolingo are amazing and I love the new look. I think it's a bit ridiculous that people are complaining about it so much when you tested the two different versions and found the new model to be more successful, not even to mention that from the users' standpoint it's such a minor layout difference. Thank you for all of the work you do!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/GabrielaOtero

          I have to say it... whatever the tree design is... this is the best place to lear for free

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/warpgm
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          I like the new layout. Seems more straight forward.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/szalaiak
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          Hey guys! I really like the ney lay-out! But where are the owls gone? I'd really love if you put it there again! I was looking forward to getting mine soon :l

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/tao_alexis

          I do not like the new tree. It has taken some of the fun out of it. I liked the idea of maneuvering my way through the language process, and was looking forward to some of the more complex patterns.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/CtheBoss

          This is so awsome! I am so exited to see how its going to be!!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/fragphace

          Good job!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/viljam
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          I would like to see on which "level" I am in the tree. Yes I l know duolingo has another meaning for "level", but that is kind of abstract thing, since it is not visualized like the tree is.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Amphere

          I trust you guys to take the right steps because I'm progressing much better than I ever thought I would. Keep it up.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Romanuch

          With new design, I feel like you take out some piece of my understanding how Language is organised. Visualisation was a big step from simple-book lesson organisation, and now we again here? That lines gave me much more than simple direction from one to another.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/DrDave69

          I quite like the new interface, but one thing has changed in the iPad app that I would like to see back. I can no longer strengthen a particular skill when it is already at full strength. I enjoyed reinforcing my skills by strengthening on a daily basis. Also, would it be possible to have a feature to download a course so that it can be done offline?

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/hal8196
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          Gracias, for such a great website. I noticed a lot of people are learning several languages at the same time. Is that a better approach to language learning rather than focusing on a single language? I do see progress with my Spanish skills since I am starting to understand some Spanish TV programs and written words.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Amgad
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          I'm actually so grateful for Duolingo I can't even complain. All is good.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/crashuniverse

          The progress lines were great and we are going to miss it.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/gauravsharma236

          how can i switch to this new theme?

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/gauravsharma236

          how can i switch to this new theme?

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/LeonardoGouvea

          i dont like the new tree...

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/stormclouds101

          I like the older tree version better it was fun and I felt more progressed through the foreign language. Duolingo did make it more simple which is good for confused people. Adios!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Na64da

          Thanks good gob

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/JCDCgt

          Por supuesto que está muy bien diseñado con las barras horizontales de progreso. Muy buena herramienta para aprender otro idioma. Estoy muy contento aprendiendo italiano. Felicitaciones desde Guatemala. Arrivederci!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/jbradshaw

          The skill tree needs to be more interconnected! Give students more freedom to choose their vocab sets to concentrate on. I need to practice my pronouns, I don't need ten lessons in future tense before I do it.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/jodilin
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          Really hope there isn't a lot of change here. That's why I left LiveMocha. Too much change, too many glitches. Just when I'd get used to the changed, off they'd go to change things again. LiveMocha is NOTHING like it once was. Please, please, please leave things as they are! We wouldn't be here in the first place if we didn't like this site JUST THE WAY IT IS. :)

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Jaspee18

          Looks okay...

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/connorehrhardt

          so do you bb

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/irinel12

          I want to congratulate the person who have been designed the skill tree in the first place (I don't know if is the same person who changed it). He or she was so meticulous in everything, by thinking every detail. Absolutely amazing! I just have the feeling that a great vision was lost.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/NanmuGreen

          Toll!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/DevHardy

          Small bit weird

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/kurlbrudherst

          Oh my God! You noob! -Je fais rage juste quitté !

          By the way...who are you? You are certainly not Duo!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/urednik

          It would be useful if you could see what is ahead of you current 'skill' level. I am stuck on the basic level and it involves a lot of wasted time doing stupid typing , and not learning much. I am afraid that duolingo might be just a slow road to a dead end - lots of mindless repetition that leads nowhere. There should be a way to see the GOAL, the objective, the level of skill you will reach , if you persevere.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/crina_77d

          It looked more interesting before...

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/AlyssonXavier

          I enjoy this new design.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/ChazB1
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          The way I'm viewing it is that once one area of subjects is covered, you learn another. I think the old tree made it seem like you've achieved something because one subject took you to another and so forth - learning step by step that way. I don't see much bad with it, but this all depends at what perspective you look at things.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/katelynogle

          I love it! I love the simplicity. With the old design I didn't know which way I should go when I'm learning. This way it's more structured. Thank you!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/kodo1

          It's a shame they've compromised game-like design considering only two designs were tested, when an even more optimal design could have very well satisfy both parties. While the new format offers ease-of-use and accessibility, does it foster long-term interest as well as the skill-tree? I think many of those dissatisfied by the changes are most discontented by the fact that they'll never see what the skill-tree could have become with further development.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/janellemcd

          This explains why my daughter's account looked different from mine for a while. She signed up very recently. I personally like the flow chart style. I like mazes and puzzles. However, for my daughter, the simpler design makes sense to her. I understand the change. Thank you for considering the needs of new language learners.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Renee1m

          Thank you, I appreciate getting to learn plurals, which before was not offered. It was a missing link in my progress.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/MischiefMackson

          I just want to express how thankful I am that you guys even provide such an awesome service, and then to hear that you're expanding on it with the DLI? You guys deserve some sort of award or money, a commendation or something. Honestly this is truly remarkable and I love using it, ESPECIALLY on my tablet, you have literally made learning a language so fun and accessible that I'm surprised(don't jinx it) no one has tried to stop you lol. Please keep up all the good work I so look forward to whatever future endeavors you guys pursue, you're changing the world here guys. Once again thank you so very, very much

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/f.schez

          Hi

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/f.schez

          Hola a todos

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/f.schez

          fgd

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/21paco
          21paco
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          There are many free learn language sites online and some very good ones, but I looked for over five years for one that helped me stay motivated (Sounds like a testimony for Acme Brillo Brush). Duo's style, changes and all, fits my style. And what ever doesn't work well on the site I sense a heart behind it. A tip of the hat to Duo.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/tone78
          tone78
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          Is this the very same material that is on the app? I love Duolingo, but this new looks seems a lot like the app. Actually I had intended to ask, "What now?" since I have been through the app course.

          Tone78

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Capagris
          Capagris
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          I'm personally not thrilled with the recent direction duolingo has taken. First, the addition of new languages gets replaced with the community tool. Then we get the useless game-like lingots which only detract from the primary purpose of paying attention and trying your best to advance without making mistakes. And now this... How can the former tree diagram be any difficult? If you're embracing the challenge of learning a new language, surely taking 5 minutes to browse through the tree diagram won't kill you. If you care about new language learners having the easiest route then why not simply make it 1-column-vertical all the way down so that there's no chance in hell they'll misunderstand what's next? It's aesthetically displeasing... requires more scrolling and like many have said before, it removed the satisfaction of knowing you were progressing through the various paths. Most importantly, it gave you a clear picture of where you were, the overall picture and what was next. The undistinguishable rows we now have are just that...boring, uncommunicative rows.

          Then again, not having paid a dime for the service, how is it fair for any of us to complain? Still, one is left wondering 'what could have been' of the once most promising free language learning tool available...

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/brunographique

          Well, it looks good for me. (I only used the mobile version, so I can't give the feedback right now ._.)

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/izabelbaker

          I am anxious to start!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/JetThought3

          I know this comment will probably get lost in the flood of complaints but couldn't we long time users have an option to revert to the old method? If it is purely cosmetic then it shouldn't be too hard right? That way, everyone wins! :D

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/scoreperfect

          I went back to look at a screen shot from last month of my home page just to look at the old design (with the lines") and I'd certainly say the new design is much cleaner. The lines seemed to clutter the page and honestly, I could not even see or guess what the lines even meant. The new look is much cleaner. Thank you DL for this amazing software. Daniel Léo Simpson Composer
          San Francisco

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/RogerSessions

          I really appreciate what you have put together here. Duolingo is awesome no matter how the progress is displayed. Thanks, thanks, thanks!!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/AsianC

          hi

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Bonapart

          Sorry, I have to join those, who complain about "new" design - I don't like it :( It really makes impression of much more conservative learning look, and kills something, which together with the idea, structure and design made the whole Duolingo feeling... I just hope you will reconsider it more

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Arumea

          I am quite new to Duolingo, so can't make a fair comparison of the tree designs. I would however like to comment, that I am very grateful for the opportunity to learn my choice of language for free, and am very satisfied with the program so far. If I have had any issues with any of the translations, I have said so, and it is good to have the opportunity to ask questions, make comments and discuss language and interpretation issues with other members, who, like me, are genuinely trying to improve their language skills. Also, it is great that we are given the opportunity to give feedback about the changes, as many organisations don't even give you such an option.These things to me, are more important. Thanks.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/BirdPrincess

          I liked the old way better

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Spremephantasm

          I think they should leave the layout as an optional part. The default is this new one and you can always change to other.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/WoodEthaAwesome

          cool thanks for explaning

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Pherran

          I love Duolingo!!! It's the B-E-S-T system to learn a new language... and I have tried several, including Rosseta Stone. Thank you, Duolingo... You are an expert in languages! I love those changes, it's easier to follow my progress.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/jacpatterson

          Some people just like to complain...human nature, I guess.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/gsh123

          criticism is good but keep it positive. I dont see any change in the lessons so will adapt to the new methods and will be happy to progress

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/kshepardrmsel

          I can't wait to learn more languages

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/sopia399

          i now cannot hear parts of audio which is making me mess up.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/_Caradog_
          _Caradog_
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          Like many others, it seems, I would like the option to toggle to the old layout if at all possible. The new layout is less motivating for me - the previous layout gave a sense of structure and how you progress from one competence to the next whereas the new layout (to me) just presents as a series of barriers with no sense of order.

          But for all that, Duolingo is still a great resource and one for which I'm very appreciative.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Visualsilva

          Is it possible for someone to add American Sign Language to duolingo?

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/maxwell1.

          i still don't get it

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/WoodEthaAwesome

          maxwell1, what don't you get?

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Shiroryuu

          For me, the old tree was perfect. I do not like this one, but I too understand, why was the old one confusing for some. On the other hand I think it is a bigger problem, that I am a level 11, and I still do not know neither the names of the weekdays, nor a simple past tense... (I know them because I learned it myself before). I have learned some languages before and a simple past should be at the beginning. Not the very first thing to know I agree, but why should I know for example medical first...? Simple past is very important to understand a Tv-show or something, thus it should be in the second or at latest in the third "big chapter" (I mean between those little locks).

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/moradoman

          lame

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Evelyn_S

          I don't like this format too much. It looks too… Rosetta Stone-ish. Something they would do. As Ceid-Donn said, too bland. I prefer the old format personally. Duolingo is a new, exciting way to learn languages! Let's start fresh, instead of building on the old ways.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/bengood225

          This is the best skill tree i have ever eaten in with ketchup

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/AsaAL

          what?

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/LizzyLucky

          THe new tree look is fine.BUt it keeps telling me to translate words I have not learned yet

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/LizzyLucky

          THe new tree look is fine.BUt it keeps telling me to translate words I have not learned yet

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/AsaAL

          it did that to me to.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/sglathar

          I am very happy with duolingo and find it fun and easy to learn, it is truly the best language learning that I have found and I have tried many.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/happylele88

          Sounds interesting, looking forward to using it !! Thanks so much !!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/ja.p
          ja.p
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          I like the new layout just fine. I'm just happy to be progressing and remembering the language I'm working on! Thanks Duolingo!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/jshepard146

          how do we go back to the original method?? this method is much worse and i cant say i like it much

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/raneroandres

          I'm Guatemalan and proud of you man! Con todo!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/smile934

          I enjoy duolingo very much, and while I never had a problem with the old look, I am happy with the changes. I especially like being able to correct my mistakes.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/mafiacalpe

          I also liked the previous look better. It was more appealing for me. Right now I find it plain. But if it is for the better I can not complain.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/hyeonji

          amazing. and i have a suggestion. how about making communities? It would be great if i can communicate with who are interested in studying German or French

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/solesz

          I'll give it a try.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/wts111

          Hey I am really grateful for Duolingo. It is a great service and has helped me very much. Spanish is "supposed" to be an easier language (compared to Arabic, Mandarin or French, etc.) but is still tough for me. Thank you for providing this site and keep up the good work.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/elizabethmcn
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          Awesome! Can't wait to try it out!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/lusyomo

          I like the new look, but never had any trouble with the old one either.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/ndwilson123

          Leave well enough alone, I can't navigate easily, wtf

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/deander18
          deander18
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          Thank you for all your hard work, Luis. I couldn't begin to teach it, let alone program it!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/intrinsic808

          Confusing? Really? Um.... ok. If that's confusing, I can only imagine how confusing it must be to actually learn the language.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/naplesarea

          Hi, I miss the summary review which came at the end of each group of lessons. It helped to synthesize the learning. Was much more important to me than the general reviews. Please bring these back. Duolingo has been great overall.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/bobalach

          I like it!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/alemanista

          I just love it, more and more. Thanks for the work, guys.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/alberthjrc2012

          i like it

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Tonita3

          This is a fantastic way to reinforce what I already know and to hone my writing skills.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/patryticona

          Sorry i had miss a lot of classes, i hope i can make now. I will try the new changes and i will let you know, thank you so much, Mercy beacoup .

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/alejandrasotos

          :)

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Lovro_Ra

          Duolingo, would it be a problem to add this to the site: After lesson revision practice (The speedtyping challenge with the 30s counter), when the results show us how many points and which words we have strengthened (relearned), that when we hover our mouse pointer over the words we have revised, we can see a translation. I mean the word box at the end of the challenge. I understand if it is unnecessary, but I thought if I would find it useful that perhaps others would too. PS: cheers and I love the site

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Parvinkhanlou
          Parvinkhanlou
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          I love to help you add the Farsi (Persian) language. let me know how can I assist

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/AmirGorji

          Make an Option to choose, this is better. cus I like old way and maybe someone else not.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/gsking
          gsking
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          I get pretty fed up with thinking I've completed a module only to find that it later pops up again as needing strengthening in an apparently random way. I seem to be spending more time going back and strengthening skills than moving forward!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/ethanward

          I love it

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Ross2121

          As long as I learn a free language I don't care what it looks like. Some folks can't ever be pleased! Peace!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Ross2121

          I don't like the fact that I have to go back and do the ones I already did but I am not complaining. I do them again and still manage to clear the stage with no hearts left. Hence I still need practice so the it's right on the money!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/elementdeckhello

          Pls don't nerf skill tree

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/stuwilso

          keep up the great work duolingo!! i love this concept, the design and the effort that you guys have made. i am really making progress and relating to the techniques, i love it. i probably personally prefer the old design but totally appreciate that the research you have done is a more accurate gauge than my personal stylistic preferences!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/ZemnianGnome
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          Personally I love the new look! I find it so much easier to follow and to understand. I also think it's much more logical than the old system. I got a bit fed up with the old skill tree because it was difficult to figure out which lessons you needed to complete in order to move ahead, and sometimes earlier lessons would require words that hadn't been taught yet, depending on what order you chose to complete the lessons. With the new skill chart this issue has been eliminated, and I appreciate that. I'm also keen to see the difference it's made for Incubator! Great work everybody!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/pdaignea
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          I find this program operationally much more difficult. I do this every day on my iPad and the old program flowed like butter but this one is very unresponsive and jerky. I have to stab it several times before you get into a block and sometimes can't get it to respond at all. This also affects the voices.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/baseballwarrior

          I love this new layout. I think it will be very effictive.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/devinpendergast

          You guys are amazing! I love the new streamlined layout, and it does feel more like a progression, which prompts me to keep going. This always improving culture of yours has me hooked! I tell everyone I can to start using Duo! You guys rock!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Zanne

          I now study languages by spurts... Duolingo always surprises and challenges me every time I go back to visit the site after a dormant period. It's good to have to take a few steps back before I go forward again, reviewing what I worked on weeks or months ago. Thank you for always challenging me!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Isaac98H

          I cant wait for new languages

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/tabulalabore

          Thank you, I love it

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/elvis.xaviour

          I just hope Duolingo keeps expands it's training for different languages like Polish, Latin and enhances the learning process to an infinite level.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/sheriboberry

          Spend more time on correcting bad sentences, incorrect translations, sentences that are completely flawed, sentences that just have random words strung together….basically, all the errors in your program. And, spend LESS time on silly "aesthetics". Who cares how it looks, make it correct. I find myself having to memorize incorrect sentences and translations because that is the way you want it, and then when I go to my formal classes for my languages, i then struggle to remember the correct way.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/gugontijo007

          Congratulations duolingo! Great work!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Klouie

          Don't like it. Not a good flow.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/ajdedinburgh

          I like it, I think it seems simpler.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/wfufidio

          Duolingo is the best (es la mejor)!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/BlueWillow991967

          Fantastic. I love that you're adding new languages!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Daisysxxx

          Yes I suppose... The app is brilliant, it is easy to use and runs smoothly (apart from the occasional glitch). One thing that I find very disappointing is the website... It is bland, always crashes and even as I type now, on screen is three letters behind where my fingers are! I love languages! Duolingo is very good for that but I can't help feeling as if the websites a little less smooth that the app. We want colours and improvements. The screen before you log in is great. This would encourage far more than the trees which first flash onto your screen after logging in. (Bit like 70's wallpaper)

          Yours sincerely

          A well wisher

          4 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/smihajlo
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          The change is not bad, but i am not a big fan for now. I really liked the simplicity of the previous design, from the moment i used it i felt right at home. Now i am a little overwhelmed by the change and find navigation a lot more difficult. The design is for my taste a little to much flashy and less practical. I am hoping you'll add some more changes in the future making it „simpler“.

          "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."

          -Leonardo da Vinci

          These are my two cents.

          4 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/rockyman

          hghuyjhgilycilylcicicyicyicy

          4 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/-Donny-

          can i have free lingots?

          4 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Svev

          I liked the changes so far :)

          4 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/kristina.g2

          I completely agree. I love this, and the mobile app!

          4 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/mrsparadox

          Once I have finished the four parts of a lesson, I can't find a way to progress to the next lesson without completely exiting duolingo and opening it again.

          4 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Yash11

          I agree but ,Earlier this site used to give the information about the words we practiced in the lessons and also some information about that words with the framing of few sentence . So, I would like to request duolingo to please start that thing again as it was very helpful.And please show the words we had practiced.

          4 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/sugarypeanut

          Well, I think it looks nicer!

          3 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/sugarypeanut

          Well, I think it looks nicer!

          3 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/cryinanimegirl

          can i have some lingots

          3 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/cryinanimegirl

          can i have some lingots

          3 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/philippa.l

          I don't mind the design - what I do mind is that so many skills that I had previously conquered are now only half completed. Makes me feel like I have to start from the very beginning again!

          3 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/KleineNapoleon

          Duolingo: why did you steal away half of my crowns and my levels? I am very disappointed and demotivated! I am a second year Duolingo student and and now at some levels I have to start from the beginning. No, I am not amused! (Peter Kraft, Netherlands)

          6 months ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/DanielD2817

          As both an educator (many years teaching prek-2 ) and in the IT field, this new format is biased towards keeping people on the webstie longer rather than learning.

          6 months ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/imagenthatnj

          I found out there’s a new Test Out version if you do it from a computer. Thank goodness! I can also get a list of all the words learned, parts of speech and grammar explanation on the computer. Wish I could have that on the app, but I now know where to go to really learn.

          6 months ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/AlexandraManou0
          AlexandraManou0
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          I was much more motivated to work with the old tree. My goal was to keep it all "green". If a subject became red, it meant I had to go back and improve that skill. Now I just press the practice button and do the absolute minimum just to preserve my streak. Because the next levels are just repeating the same things over and over again. It is boring and demotivating. If we were given an option between the two systems, I would opt for the original one. I know that a lot of work has gone into the new tree and it is the designers' baby, but I think they should take into account what users say. I have discussed it with a lot of friends and they all prefer the old version!

          3 months ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/dubvasek

          why i always when i log in after a while. feel that you took me some done parts?

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/imagenthatnj

          Duolingo knows when you don't practice for a long time, so it wants you to do it again. Your words that you learned already lose strength and you have to keep on going back to redo the lessons and to prove that you do know them.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/dubvasek

          ouh thank you! that is dismotivating, when i do not have time and possibility be here so often!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/imagenthatnj

          Just wants to make sure you haven't forgotten. You can go to the Vocabulary tab and click on the top right "Practice Weakest Words" and prove that you know them!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/owllingo

          This new design is too simple. The flow chart design was more aesthetically pleasing. Please change it back to the original design.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/ProfesorAntonnio
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          I can't see any change!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/MultiLinguAlex
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          I think you will in a few minutes.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/VStarTraveler

          Professor, some of us were guinea pigs testing the new skill tree so our trees did not change.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/TimothyGeek

          He's been on Duolingo for a while (at least 5 months), and Luis said they only tested it on fresh new users who were supposed to have never used the site before. So he probably wasn't one of the guinea pigs.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/TheGrimlin

          LOL THIS IS TRULY AMAZING, YOU SHOULD SIGN UP.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/banay

          i gave the new tree a chance- and i'v stopped learning for 3days

          I JUST WANT MY OLD TREE BACK IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR?!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/PerroNegro

          Why can't I unfollow this discussion which has gone on ad nauseam?

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/robbiedkat

          I liked the old way. The new way is confusing to the point of giving it up.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/DARTANGYAN

          Stop appealing to the casuals and go back to what made this site well known in the first place.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

          What the heck? You are acting like this is a video game or something. This site became well known because it is a free, high-quality language learning service.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Arthur_Smith

          What new languages? I see the new skill tree, but not any new languages.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

          Huh? This thread is about the new skill tree design.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/marksie531

          I don't care in the slightest about the new change. Duolingo is great, level 11 here I come! :-) As a software programmer myself I know a good system when I see one. This is a great system and look forward to all incremental future improvements.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/maddyis7

          New look is ❤❤❤❤. It was perfect the way it was before. Why do people think they have to fiddle with things.Also, the main gripe, on mobile phone it now just shows a tick and narrative for checkpoints reached. a) The old symbol was better and instantly understandable but b) worst of all it no longer shows future checkpoints to spur you on to reach. Change it back now and sod your "Metrics"

          All this aside I have nothing but admiration for the Duolingo team, for creating the best language learning course ever on-line.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/playingtowin

          change it to older one else i will leave ur course...new one made me nostalgic

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/kristinemc

          Hello! Please let us know specific feedback. We think it'll take a second to get used to the new look. We think a lot about how our design updates improve the learning experience and we have seen improvement in learning through this change. Just give it a sec. :)

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Yu-Jie
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          If you want to leave, just leave. Nobody's asking you to stay.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/sparklypumpkin

          I agree

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/BLPK
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          I disagree. I'm asking everyone to stay, and to continue to complain. It's how we advance as a group, listening to the problems of the individuals.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/marksie531

          I personally don't mind but I think it would be extremely foolish for Duolingo not to, at the very least, provide an option to put the tree lines back in again ...!

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/toniobrien

          All this fuss over the tree design??? I'm just happy to have the program. Thanks Duolingo for providing a program so that I can improve my second language skills.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Shiroryuu

          Blackmailing is really not the answer. Provide useful criticism or just suck it up. I think it is also not really a good attitude to be "just happy" with everything. I would prefer the old look but because so many like the new one maybe there could be an opportunity, in which one can choose between the 2 designs.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Zach1337

          Yes, they are totally gonna change it back just for you.

          5 years ago

          https://www.duolingo.com/Lord_Ian_Klop
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          I'm here with the dead discussion police to report that after 8 months and no comment, this discussion is thoroughly expired.

          4 years ago
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