https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnfred

Ukrainian F.A.Q.

Vinnfred
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All of these questions were already asked so many times, but it was mostly in the comment section for sentences, so people ask them again and again. I think it would be really nice to have them all gathered in one place

Apostrophe (')

There are some letters in Ukrainian that denote not one sound, but two: й and some vowel. These letters are:

  • я = й + а (ya)
  • ю = й + у (yu)
  • є = й + е (ye)
  • ї = й + і (yi)

When they are in the beginning of the word or after a vowel you pronounce them just as I wrote them in Latin characters. But! Situation changes when they are after a consonant. Instead of being a combination of two sounds they become one - the vowel one - and the consonant before them becomes palatalized. Compare:

But, there's a snag! There are some consonants (they are called labial) that can never be palatilized. And still want to have one those letters after them. That's when apostrophe comes in handy.

Labial consonants in Ukrainian are: б, п, в, м, ф. We have mnemonics for remembering those: "Мавпа Буф", but I doubt that it will make any sense for any of you. (мавпа is monkey, Буф is like a monkey's name)

You should put apostrophe between a labial consonant and one of those (я, ю, є, ї). And between "p" and one of those. Р isn't labial but it clearly had an affection to the apostrophe.

Oh, and when there's another consonant before labial consonant you don't put an apostrophe. "How," - you can ask youself, - "we thought they can't be palatilized!". Yep, that's still true. Please, don't ask any further questions. You have to deal with it - свято (holiday) Oh! And if that another consonant is р you still put the apostrophe (because it has an affection to him, remember?) - черв’як (worm).

There're some other rules about apostrophe, but I think these are more than enough. Just think of an apostrophe as a part of the word's spelling and try to memorize where to put it in a particular word.

Soft Sign (ь)

The soft sign is used to indicate the palatalization of a consonant. It's hard to explain how that palatilized consonant should sound, you just have to learn and listen. I'll just give you some soft sign rules for using it.

The rules say that you have to use it after д, т, з, с, ц, л, н (another cool meaningless mnemonics: Де ти з’їси ці лини) when they are soft. So you need to hear that a consonant is soft in order to spell a word correctly. But sommon "places" for soft sign are:

  • suffixes ськ, зьк, цьк (these suffixes make an adj. from a noun)- український (Ukrainian)
  • diminutive suffixes -еньк-, -оньк-, -есеньк-, -ісіньк-, -юсіньк- - малесенький (tiny)
  • in verbs that end in ться - збирається (getting ready, going to)
  • in verbs before ся - станься (imperative of happen)

Soft sign can never be put:

  • after б, п, в, м, ф, р, ж, ч, ш, щ
  • between doubled consonants - волосся (hair)

і, й / та

As someone mentioned in one of the discussions, "euphony is a grammatical category in Ukrainian". I couldn't say any better. We have a tonne of things just for the sake of euphony. One of those things is 3 words to say and (actually 4, but the fourth one has a different meaning).

These 3 words for and are interchangeable, you should choose what sounds better, i.e. try to avoid many successive consonants (or vowels). Use i:

  • on the beginning of the sentence before a consonant
  • after a consonant
  • before 2 consonants

For other cases you have й.

Та is a special word that can mean either and or but. You usually use it if there's already і/й in the sentence and you want something different. Or between a consonant and a vowel. Just try not to use it near words that already have lots of t's (тато та тітка - not cool)

і/a

This also caused a lot of confusion. You just got used to a thought that there are 3 conjunctions that you can interchange and than Whoa! There's even another one. And this time you can't just interchange them freely.

і implies similarity. а is used for contrast, to compare two things. Something like English while, but lighter. There's a fancy term juxtaposition for this

Here's a fancy scheme for ye:

  • A is an X, not an Y: Він письменник, а не директор.
  • A does X, not Y : Вона готує, а не спить.
  • A is an X, and B is an Y : Вікторія — викладач, а я ні.
  • A does/can do X, and B does/can do Y : Вона спить, а він читає.

в/у

It's another euphony thing. We have 2 words two say in. All the rules for і/й apply here. Just substitute i for у and й for в and you have rules for в/у

But that's not all, we came even further and decided why not do this в/у thing in prefix. And there you have it.

Most (there are some exceptions) words in Ukrainian that start with в+consonant have their у+consonant counterpart (for the sake of euphony): вчитель-учитель, вже-уже, вночі-уночі, впасти-упасти.

You should try to avoid congestion of consonants and use у-versions after a consonant and at the beginning of a sentence. But this rule is sometimes neglected and because of that в-versions of some words became much more common.

Bear in mind, that й is such a wonderful soft consonant that you can have another 2 consonants next to it and raptor won't get sad.

I want to give credit to Shady_arc and mizail whose materials (in one way or another) I used while writing this fundamental work.

Be sure to post any further questions below and I'll try to do my best to satisfy your interest.

3 years ago

56 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/YamadaU

Дякую!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jgstcd
jgstcd
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Thanks. I don't know how frequently the frequently asked questions are asked, but it might be worth considering making this post sticky.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnfred
Vinnfred
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Don't have power to do that :(

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jgstcd
jgstcd
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Neither do I, but there are people who do.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizail
mizail
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Чудова робота!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc
Shady_arc
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Come to think of it, you can use «а» in "And you?"-style questions in Ukrainian. At least, I've seen it a few times.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnfred
Vinnfred
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Yep.

"А ти?" - And what about you?
"І ти?" - And you are also (doing this thing)? (Et tu, Brute?)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gagarski

You say "Та is a special word that can mean either and or but". Does it mean that word "але" can be interchanged with "та" or they have different meanings?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnfred
Vinnfred
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It can. Але is a usual word for "but", та is what you can use if you feel like doing it :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/underwood.jones
underwood.jones
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Regarding the apostrophe, I can't seem to get one anywhere on my Windows Ukrainian keyboard layout and often have to switch back into English to type it or my response is counted as misspelled and wrong... I read about solutions in Ukrainian forums but they were mostly for Word and other MS Office programmes...any suggestions?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizail
mizail
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Try to hit the key "` ~" (before key "1", over the key "Tab")

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stfods
stfods
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Unfortunately Windows 7 Ukrainian Keyboard has ё there just like in Russian.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnfred
Vinnfred
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You should use Ukrainian Enhanced layout, that one has the apostrophe

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/underwood.jones
underwood.jones
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Лінгот! :D

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/stfods
stfods
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Дякую, так працює :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/underwood.jones
underwood.jones
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Дякую! I wrote that using the enhanced keyboard layout--which has an apostrophe!! ' ' ' ' !!!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MaksimOtstavnov

Mirka, I’d like to express my gratitude for both your F.A.Q. and your generous participation in the discussions of those particular topics which have anticipated most of my puzzlements and questions. Thank you! Дякую! Спасибо!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NikitaSauceBoss

slava ukraine

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LupaNera
LupaNera
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I learned a little bit of Russian before, so I was somehow used to the general cyrillic alphabet; but what I just don't get is the difference between и and і in the Ukrainian version? When do I use which? How can I remember the words with и/і correctly? Is there a trick? Please enlighten me!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/yayoitakano
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This was my problem too. But I became used to. Russian ы is like Ukrainian и. и sounds sometimes like an e . An i is always "bright". like that....

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LupaNera
LupaNera
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Thank you, that is helpful!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrederickPatton

Ukr. и and Rus. ы indicate different sounds, so if you are studying both, note the difference ( though it may be hard for non-native speakers to hear).

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gagarski

Why is there no Words section for Ukrainian (https://www.duolingo.com/words)? I have it for other languages but not for Ukrainian?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rashtrakut
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Words get added later...many of the other languages still do not have them

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bright_flash
bright_flash
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By the way, I've just noticed that the link to "мята" redirects you to the word "м'яч". Can you edit it?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnfred
Vinnfred
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Fixed

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/morganwilson754

Is there an easy way to remember the letters and pronunciations?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnfred
Vinnfred
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch8WbaSoBKs
There's a couple of mistakes though, it's жирафа (not жираф), єті (not йєті, but pronunciation is the same) and щ should be pronounces as шч, not just soft ш

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VictoriaAdamu

The most easy way is to create a song to remember it

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BryanSullo

In the spoken examples . . . мяч and м’яч мята and м’ята пять and п'ять I hear no difference in the sound of the vowels. I hear a pause between the consonant and vowel sounds, but the vowels sound identical to me.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mizail
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You just need to train your hearing of Ukrainian language more and more. We, native speakers of Ukrainian and Russian, are hearing these differences very clear. Good luck.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DoomBom
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It is more about difference in the consonant before enlisted vowels. If there is no apostrophe, the consonant is soft. I think after apostrophe enlisted vowels have more distinct й sound.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/julietamora_
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Hi! Do you know where can I download an ukrainian keyboard? Thanks!

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/blehblehkhleh

тчис ис челпфул, бут лонг. Тры цомпермисинг то тче инфо неедед. sorry i might have pressed the wrong keys.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/v.ivanov
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We live this way in the Cyrillic world, always with two keyboard layouts... :)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OlehSliusar

Nice!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PauloMor
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Ukrainian.

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fabya75

This is helpful. Thank you

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Liveforyou2213

Awe thanks, this could help me since I am studying Ukrainian xD

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anna197845

Hello everyone, I´m a native Ukrainian speaker, created an Instagram account Ukrainian Online https://www.instagram.com/ukrainian_online/ for all who are interested in learning Ukrainian. I think it might be helpful for some of you

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissNaomi1

Ааааа ... наші українці! Дуже добре знайти наших людей. Наші слов'янські люди. Дуже дякую!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/acyph
acyph
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This is great, дякую! I'm learning Ukrainian after studying Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian for five years and Russian for two, so I have the general Slavic language elements down - it's just the intricacies of the Ukrainian language that puzzle me.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sialia2
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Thank you for your very illuminating discussion! I just gave you six lingots.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/boroda134

Good job!

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrederickPatton

Dear Vinnfred: Do you know why the Ukrainian lesson questions are showing up only in the Latin alphabet letters? I am answering in Cyrillic, and it accepts them. Дякую, Фред

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rashtrakut
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there is a button on the top left that you can click to change from Latin to Cyrillic

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LICA98
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btw another way to remember the мавпа буф is that those consonants are the ones that can't get an accent added on them in Latin script

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/backswept
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thank u! a friend challenged me to try ukrainian since its so similar to russian and so far its been rewarding

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JessicaRRamos

Thank you!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MatsikMatsik
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Дякую!

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArthurCormode

This is very helpful. I had started to surmise what the apostrophe was used for. Now it all makes sense. :)

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ExalGarcia

спасибо!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/prosto_max

Ukrainians say "дякую", see upper. "Спасибо" is from Russian, which is different language :-)

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Vinnfred
Vinnfred
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In Ukrainian you may say спасибі. There are people who consider it Russian, but it's not. But yes, дякую is the most common way to say thank you

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/michaeldoodash

What does ARKYHO mean?

2 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ScrappyUnderdog

LOL

1 year ago
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