What are the differences between these words?
*ihr [posessive] "her/their" (followed by a masculine or neuter noun) --- Das ist ihr Bruder. --- Das ist ihr Buch.
[pronoun] "you all" or "you guys" or you (plural -- Geht ihr in den Park heute Abend?
*ihre [posessive] "her/their" (followed by a feminine noun) Das ist ihre Schwester.
*ihren [posessive] "her/their" (followed by a masculine noun in the accusative) -- Sie schlägt ihren Bruder.
I am late, but maybe other people will need this. :)
So "ihr" can be used for sie (she) or sie(they) or Sie(formal you, but in this case we use Ihr with capitalized i). They are possesive adjectives, you can find them in this small table for example: https://i.imgur.com/UyyOcsI.jpg
Now the ending of it changes depending on the gender of the noun that stands behind it. The table shows the nominative cases only. "ihren" is an accusative case of the masculine possessive adjective of "her".
To make it a bit clearer, here is how it changes in the different cases:
(masculine) ihr | (feminine) ihre | (neutral) ihr | (plural) ihre
(masculine) ihren | (feminine) ihre | (neutral) ihr | (plural) ihre
(masculine) ihrem | (feminine) ihrer | (neutral) ihrem | (plural) ihren
(masculine) ihres | (feminine) ihrer | (neutral) ihres | (plural) ihrer
So you use "ihr" for "she" and change its ending depending on the noun behind it.
For example: She reads her book. - Sie liest ihr Buch. (ihr because the book is neutral "das" and we are checking the accusative row for it)
I also recommend to learn this one table (https://i.imgur.com/QTdIUrB.jpg <- new link to a better chart that is more explanatory) for the definitive articles, since it helps a LOT with every other table. The endings are similar to these, the picture points it out nicely.
Please (anybody) correct me if I am wrong though, since I am still learning it as well.
That last table is beautiful. I'm having trouble understanding one thing, though: how do the "mein" declinations fit in? The plurals make sense for "the," but how is "meine" a plural for "a"?
I had started building a similar table of my own, and I had just left the plural line blank for "a," because the plural of "a" would really be "some" (etwas).
I am not sure I completely understood what you said here, but my guess is that you are trying to fill out the "ein, eine, ein" for plura. However, they don't exist, because as you said they are identical to english "a, an" and you don't say "an apples", only "the apples".
At this point it has nothing to do with "posessive objectives". :) I see the table which has the "meine" in it, but I think it isn't supposed to serve the purpose of pluar, maybe it makes an example of the possessive case? Not sure at all.. anyway, there is a table that is better than my previous one, it includes the "ein" with examples (and everything else too for that matter): https://i.imgur.com/QTdIUrB.jpg (new link, since the previous was on a dead host)
Best one I found so far, I hope it helps.
Thanks! It sounds like we're in agreement: the "meine" et. al just don't belong in that table. "Not sure at all" describes exactly my thoughts on seeing it there, under the plural column!
Hi, this link has expired or moved. Was really keen on seeing it! Could you share it again please