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shoudl be donne --they keep changing their trnaslation theory: literal to open make up your mind they had this as a HUGE problem in Frnech
I agree it should have been donne. Woman's clothing is just as correct as women's clothing. Donna is woman, donne is women. Use the appropriate word!
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Here's the problem. In Italian, the signs for the department selling clothing that women wear use the singular while the English uses the plural. This is a phrase rather than two separate words and we think differently about the idea behind it. Try googling "woman's department" in English and it will say, did you mean "women's department?'"
And it is not just the signs in a store. Notice that I didn't write the clothing that a woman wears, although that is grammatically correct--it is just not the normal way of saying it. You can't always translate word for word. DL can be a challenge because sometimes it insists on the literal, but I think they are right here not to accept woman's department.
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Well in English the difference is abbigliamento is clothing, while vestiti is dress. English still uses dress to mean both the specific article of clothes as well as the general form for clothes, for instance "that is a beautiful dress" referring to an actual gown, versus "please wear formal dress" that which is required to a ball, wedding, funeral, etc.
I do not know which is more common in Italian usage.
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I don't really now but isn't vestiti clothes and abbigliamento clothing? Why can't they similar!
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women's clothing and woman's clothing are both acceptable in English, they should both be acceptable as translations here, no?
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I haven't heard 'woman's clothing' used as a term - the singular form would denote that the clothing belongs to one woman.
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Where is this the case? Woman is singular, that is one female person and women is plural, that is more than one woman. It comes from old English which made plurals very differently from English that has been changed by all the invasions from Europe. So, woman's means something belonging to a single woman and women's means something belonging to several women.
All of you writing "ladies wear", "feminine clothing"; you can't just write anything with the same meaning and complain about it marked wrong. You have to translate THIS sentence. No place for synonyms
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I am very confused. Why wouldn't women's clothing be "abbligliamento di donne"? How do possessives work in Italian? Do you have to say "the clothing of women", like in spanish, or no of?
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http://duolingo.com/#/comment/235714
"Abbigliamento donna" is how you would read it in a big shop on several floors.
In a sentence you would say "Abbigliamento da donna"
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Indeed. I did a google search for this phrase, and among the search results were Gucci and Collezione. That IS how they call it in Italian.
ladieswear is very common in English, therefore should not be marked wrong.
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I write men's wear and got it marked wrong, so I went with women's clothing here, to be safe. I believe that the expressions menswear and womenswear is far more common in English than men's clothing and women's clothing!
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"abbigliamento donna" può benissimo significare: "abbigliamento da donna". Il fatto, poi, di tradurre: "L'abbigliamento delle donne" è qualcosa di veramente fantasioso. Si evince, veramente, della creatività da parte dell'autore...Avvisateci prima: "guardate che la traduzione giusta sarebbe "Woman clothing", però non fateci caso perchè questa vuole essere solo una domanda a trabocchetto, così la traduzione vi rimane in mente: è pedagogia...per la formazione del fanciullo...
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I checked Google translate and they had the same translation as above. This is a language quirk that probably should not have been introduced at this time
I agree. Or, if they introduce it, they should give a notification that this is idiomatic. Otherwise we have know way of knowing that it means "women's section" out of context.
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Vestiti is clothes I think and abbigliamento is clothing anyway they should be similar.
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I Googled "abbigliamento donna", making sure to only pay attention to results from Italian websites (with the .it top-level domain) and the results were fairly clear.
Many said abbigliamento donna, some said abbigliamento da donna, and only a few said abbigliamento donne.
To those insisting that it "should" be one way or the other based on how we say it in English: Never try to apply the rules of one langauage to another. It just doesn't work that way.
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I got it correct. But, please explain why it is not: Abbigliamento donne - since it is WOMENS - plural clothing
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Because we say it differently in English vs in Italian.
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I was just thinking about: "how can be this answer when it doesn't teach me this?" then I right something else and it was the answer.
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sofocle: I've no doubt that's a brilliant explanation for anyone speaking italian, but unfortunately I don't, so is absolutely no good for me!
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I'm thrilled that a native speaker is posting in Italian in some of our discussions. I understood some of it, and looked up words I didn't recognize. This gave practice with real life Italian and helped increased my vocabulary. Hope I'm a little closer to becoming fluent someday. Grazie Sofocle!
If it is Women's Clothing, should'nt . the Sentence in italian say: Abbigiamento delle donne?
THE WORD IS DONNA so why do you translate it as women IT IS NOT DONNE
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Because each language has it's own logic. Google translations can often be quite amusing because they are often literal word for word translations. English speakers say "women's clothing" to mean the kind of clothing that women wear in general, and Italian speakers say "abbligiamento donna." Italian speakers don't require a pronoun, English usually does. Etcetera.
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This is a request to the open-source programmers: in the "Report a problem" window, would you add the option to select something like "The translation is unnatural or incorrect"? In this particular instance, the apostrophe is missing in the translation. It reads: "women s clothing." Thank you very much in advance and kudos on making DL such a good language program!
Abbigliamento donna (To me donna is one woman. ) ( Donne is women therefore women's clothing.)
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In one exercise it translated to Ladiesweare now is telling me differently
Women's is not a word in English. Woman is singular, Women is plural and does not need 's. Your answer is incorrect.
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I have never seen Feminine clothing in a store. And I think it sounds wrong anyway.
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They should accept the singular... anyway is woman clothing... donne=plural......
