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Redoing lessons is only seven questions now?

I'm actually pretty sad about this, I really enjoyed the multiple questions in redoing a lesson, since it really helped to hammer it home when I was having difficulty on just a word or two, rather than shuffling the deck and maybe getting what I really needed to practice from a strengthen session. Is there any way an option can be added to go back to the old method of 17+ questions when redoing a lesson? I feel like this is going to have a strong negative impact on something that has become an otherwise delightful part of my every day life.

3 years ago

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Arnauti
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I think this is an ongoing A/B test, I've been seeing some posts about it in the general forums, such as this from today: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/9046115 but I'm not sure if it's still being A/B tested or if it has won (which I really hope it hasn't, since it seems like a bad idea to me).

Personally I've almost entirely stopped redoing lessons since Duo changed the rules so that it became much more 'profitable' in terms of XP to do timed practice. I'm a fast typer so it's no big deal for me, still I don't really see why Duo should create conditions that drive people to do timed practice rather than redo lessons. As a course creator, I'd much prefer people to take their time with the lessons, read the sentence forums and ask questions… I think most people would learn more that way.

Anyway, those are my personal opinions, but what I really came here to say is that this is something that happens all over Duo and is not specifically to do with the Swedish course.

3 years ago

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Thanks for the link and your two cents, it's good to know this is happening all over the site, as well as hearing others opinions on the matter. I just recently started using the timed lessons, and while they are great for XP, they encourage speed over correct spelling, making it again more "profitable" to misspell the words rather than use the ä å and ö in Swedish (unless you have access to a Swedish keyboard, I suppose). In addition, while XP is nice and all, my primary reason for using this site is to learn a new language, not necessarily to gain XP, streaks, and the like.

The timed practice is great for XP, but suffers the same issue that other practices do in that all the words are randomized, meaning if there's just one section I'm struggling with, I may get none of the words at all in that practice, and now have no viable option to truly practice with only seven questions available where I really need them.

Lastly (and this probably should have been my first point), I am unfamiliar with the concept of an A/B test. Would you be so kind as to explain what exactly that entails? :)

3 years ago

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Duo loves those… they divide users into two groups, A and B, let them have different features, and then measure & compare their results. In principle this is the scientific way to decide what works best in a website, but of course the method has flaws too… and Duo really does a lot of those A/B tests.

3 years ago

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Makes sense, tack.

3 years ago

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I haven't redone any lessons, but I noticed that's what the Spanish lessons were, and I learned those way way way less well than I did the Swedish ones which were 17, as you said. Seven is not very much exposure.

3 years ago

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I've been getting 7 questions on a bunch of new lessons over the past 10 days or so. I'd say, maybe one lesson in 3? On the one hand, my progression has seriously increased (almost done with the tree now). On the other hand, now when I review a lesson I did only a few days ago (when it first drops below golden), I don't know half the words or more. So bad change, if you ask me.

3 years ago