Weekly Incubator Update: Tracking Progress from Jun 7th to Jun 14th
Hindi for English comes to the incubator
"HI from EN" course got launched on the 10th of June.
Yet another gratuation
The Turkish from English course has just graduated after what looks like a very short and efficient beta phase. Congratulations to the course team and the Duo team. Now we have as many as 35 courses in Phase 3!
Thought for the week
Time for Hindi! अब हिंदी की बारी है!
PHASE 1 Progress: Total 23 courses
English for Thai - 91% | 91% | 91% | 91% (+0)
Russian for English - 85% | 85% | 88% | 90% (+2)
Hungarian for English - 80% | 80% | 80% | 80% (+0) ^
German for Turkish - 74% | 76% | 77% | 78% (+1)
Spanish for German - 71% | 72% | 74% | 75% (+1)
German for Italian - 69% | 70% | 70% | 70% (+0)
German for Portuguese - 63% | 65% | 66% | 68% (+2)
German for French - 59% | 63% | 66% | 68% (+2)
French for Italian - 65% | 65% | 66% | 66% (+0)
Spanish for Italian - 61% | 61% | 61% | 61% (+0)
Spanish for Russian - 49% | 52% | 53% | 56% (+3)
Spanish for Chinese - 49% | 49% | 50% | 51% (+1)
Swedish for Russian - 41% | 41% | 42% | 42% (+0)
French for Chinese - 39% | 39% | 39% | 39% (+0)
Vietnamese for English - 36% | 37% | 38% | 39% (+1)
Romanian for English - 35% | 35% | 37% | 37% (+0)
Greek for English - 28% | 29% | 33% | 33% (+0)
Polish for English - 32% | 32% | 32% | 33% (+1)
Hebrew for English - 14% | 15% | 16% | 17% (+1)
Catalan for Spanish - 4% | 5% | 7% | 9% (+2)
Klingon for English - 8% | 8% | 8% | 8% (+0)
Yiddish for English - 3% | 4% | 5% | 6% (+1)
Hindi for English - (New) 5% (+5) ^*
Mean - 0.76% | 0.78% | 1.14% | 1% (-0.14)
Median - 0% | 0% | 1% | 1% (+0)
* This week's Leader Extraordinaire!
^ The Hungarian & Hindi teams' progress is as per their own calculation.
Here's what the contributing teams have said during the last week:
Our course is finally launched!
Dear friends, our Hindi team is very excited to soon commence work on this project. We had requested that we start with a blank tree. In the next few days, we will figure out how best to keep you updated with our progress percentage. For now we are truly at 0% :)
Letter lessons complete!
We are excited to welcome a new contributor to our team and to report that we have completed the alphabet-teaching portion of our course!
AMA Monday + National Public Radio
On Monday (tomorrow), Jun 15 at 3 p.m. (EST) / 9 p.m. (CET), we'll be having an AMA (Ask Me Anything) in the general [Duolingo in English] forum where you can ask RuthKC, Junesun and me (amuzulo) anything about Duolingo's Esperanto course!
The most exciting news from the past week was our interview with Connecticut Public Radio (49 min). The famous Esperanto YouTuber Evildea also interviewed me about the course, so if you're dying to watch an interview in Esperanto with English subtitles, here's your chance!
Also, feel free to join our over thousand members of the Duolingo Esperanto Learners Facebook group.
PS: This morning I woke up to find Esperanto on the front page of National Public Radio!
Week 01: 5% complete, expected beta launch 30-Nov-2015
HI from EN,
Thanks for your overwhelming response to the announcement of our course. Per my records, the number of upvotes so far (458) has topped the previous record (390) for any announcement of a single course coming to the incubator! Our team is highly motivated to bring this course to you.
Per our request, the Duo team has provided us an empty tree so that it becomes easier to design the tree uniquely for teaching Hindi. We have begun designing skills that teach the Devanagari (देवनागरी) alphabet. We have created the first few lessons and tested them. Next, we will take feedback and advice from someone who has no prior knowledge of the script. We are also checking with the Duo team to ensure that our new lessons conform to their general tree design principles.
There seems to be a lot of buzz in the forum around our progress metric for the last four days. No, unfortunately 30% does not represent our true progress! Since our tree is almost empty at this stage, the predictive algorithms are not going to work. For now, we will be reporting the progress manually. We have prepared a course plan and based on that, we will reach the beta phase on November, 30th, 2015. Each week, we will be communicating the expected beta launch date.
As you can imagine, this date might change due to various factors. We hope all the changes bring the date closer. So our first target is to advance the date to 26th November and make the beta launch a thanksgiving gift. Or, perhaps even better, advance the date to November 11th for a Diwali (दिवाली) gift!
Alright, that's enough of a teaser for the first week :)
(Image courtesy: Rhynn from the Dutch team)
TL;DR The average progress this week has been 1%. One course has entered Phase 1 (Hindi for English) and another has graduated from Phase 2 (Turkish for English)
The next update is expected on Sunday, 21th of June, 3:00 pm UTC.
Previous Update 31-May to 7-Jun
Really excited for Polish to be moving forwards! Hopefully it'll continue at a fast pace!
Agreed, they're 1/3 complete now, which is awesome. Hopefully momentum will continue!!
Congratulations to the Turkish team. Good job!
I assume many people are over the moon because of Hindi in the incubator.
Woo, Hindi! Congrats, Turkish! And Russian's steady progress toward 100% is very encouraging and exciting!
Jitengore, minor typo correction: in the TL;DR, you wrote that Turkish graduated from phase 1, but it should be phase 2. Thanks for the great update as usual!
Go Hindi <3 ! Even if I am not planning learning hindi (Maybe I will who knows ?) I am excited for the users who are waiting for it. And I am still waiting for Romanian the most mysterious romance language. And Greek Team : You can do this !
Progress all over the place! Hooray for Hindi! Already showing good progress. Russian and Catalan continue to advance steadily.
Although I don't plan on learning Hindi, I might start the course just for the sake of learning Devanagari - it looks so cool.
My hopes are rising for Arabic as we get more and more languages which have to teach a non Latin alphabet first.
They're already making Hebrew and Yiddish courses, which both use the Hebrew alphabet, which (as I understand it) works similar to the Arabic script (right-to-left, no vowels). Since it's not pictographic like Chinese and Japanese, an Arabic course should be plausible and would be a great choice since it's so widely spoken and learned.
Theoretically, a Korean course should be possible too since it uses an alphabet.
That's what keeps my hopes up, that I will get a chance to learn Arabic here. It is such a nuisance to learn it somewhere else. Duolingo works so well for me, it is hard to use other sources....
Jitengore, thank you so much for your transparency, accessibility and for your enthusiasm for spreading Hindi throughout the world. Hindi is certainly the language that I'm wanting to learn most and I am so glad that you and your team are doing such a great job moving it forward :)
Thanks for the kind words, wilbward! Great to see your continued enthusiasm for the Hindi course :)
Apologies for the late notice. Today's WIU is delayed. Please expect it around 9 pm UTC (6 hours later than usual)
I think that Russian will be the next language, the English for Thai course progresses so slowly.
Russian, hungarian, polish, romanian and few others were added on the same day, or few hours in between. Soon™ they'll reach around a year and a half of incubation.
I really hope no car journey in your childhood ever lasted a whole Duo "soon"... X-)
Definitely held by one's parents.
By the way, they were honest in the text if not in the "announcement", they said:
We don't yet know
how longit will take the teams to complete their courses, but
we're hopingit's a
matter of weeks.
Dutch is the only one that managed to finish within a "few weeks" (less than a year, 3/4 months or so). At the rate they are going, chances are that Polish and Romanian will only finish next year.
Interestingly because the course page only reports rounded up numbers, it sometimes seems as if some courses haven't really had any progress. A automated script which populates this page seems to indicate that at least for the past 6 days, with the exception of Hungarian and Klingon every other course had some progress.
Once the Hindi course is out, do you think an Urdu course will be developed, since the two languages are basically the same? (Apart from, of course, the script)
Not too sure about that Adam. I cannot read the Urdu script and when Urdu speakers speak I do not understand a good chunk of their vocabulary even though I am fairly comfortable in Hindi. Does it make sense?
Yeah, I just thought that they were mutually intelligible, although Urdu has borrowed quite a bit from Arabic hasn't it?
They are mutually intelligible. If Urdu speakers talk with causal way then they are completely intelligible, but they tend to be formal while talking to others and in formality the use a lot of Persian words. It may be noted that Hindi speakers sometimes find it hard to understand Urdu. But Urdu speakers don't get difficulty because they are familiar with Hindi's word. In terms of linguistics they are essentially the same.
Yes Urdu has borrowed from Arabic and Hindi has roots in Sanskrit which causes the divergence.
Edit: I love listening to ghazals (Urdu poetry) sung by Mehdi Hassan but the words are quite hard for me to follow.
Yes, next to English, I am most comfortable with Hindi because I grew up in the Hindi speaking belt. In my school years, I learned English, Hindi, and Sanskrit. My mother tongue is Marathi, which uses the same script with minor variations.
Turkish team really did an amazing job with this. Congrats on graduation! :)
I always get so excited whenever a new course is added to the Incubator and it was no different in case of Hindi. The alphabet is so beautiful! I was supposed to start learning it a few days ago, didn't work out, but I'll do that soon. I'll make sure to master it before November, to be able to progress faster :)
For the past few days I've been checking the Incubator page everyday just to see whether there's a new course added. (I mean, since Ukrainian, Norwegian and Esperanto all got into beta not long ago I believe it's not so stupid to hope for more new addition soon, right?)
Maybe I'll really focus those next few month on developing time-tuner which would allow me to finally learn everything I want, 'cause honestly - Duo is not making this situation easier with so many great courses available and more on the way. Not that I'm complaining about that part, I'm forever grateful for those :)
Very cool to see the three German for * courses moving along at a good pace near the top. Am personally looking forward to doing the German for French course.
Also gratifying to see the number of Spanish for * courses chugging along too. The Spanish for Russian and Spanish for Chinese courses are particularly exciting.
And Catalan for Spanish now off to a good start. Can they keep ahead of the Hindi juggernaut? (Hindi is actually the origin of this word).
lol, the name juggernaut comes from the Hindi expression "Jagannaath Rath Yaatraa" - a temple car that allegedly crushed the devotees on its path. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/juggernaut
Our team had completed the English for Hindi course in around 88 days. Although we do not have the UI strings to translate for this course, we expect to take longer this time because our aim is to create a tree uniquely for Hindi. We will learn as we go and revise our estimates though :)
The first open challenge that we have received was from the Vietnamese team even before we started! Are they listening? ;)
Congrats team Hindi!! :) While it isn't a language I'm planning to learn in the near future (mainly due to the lack of time), Hindi looks like a cool language and I will definitely be trying out the course sometime after it comes out!
Thanks so much for all your WIU's, Jiten! :D LOL @ the Hindi update being up to WIU-quality in detail. Gotta love it!
Thanks once again.