"Benden nefret etmeni istemiyorum."

Translation: I do not want you to hate me.

[DottyEyes]

If etmeni were changed to etmemi could the sentence read "I do not want to hate myself"?

[mizinamo]

I think you usually use the possessive suffixes on the short infinitive only if the subject is different from that of the main verb -- so if the wanting and the hating are by the same person, as in your example, I think it would be simply etmek istemiyorum rather than etmemi istemiyorum.

And possibly "kendimden" rather than "benden", as in English ("hate myself" rather than "hate me").

[DottyEyes]

Thanks, mizinamo. I thought there might need to be a "kendi" somewhere!

[venatio]

Like this: "Benden nefret kendimden etmek istemiyorum."?
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[mizinamo]

No, as in Kendimden nefret etmek istemiyorum.

[venatio]

Yes, I made a misstake. Now corrected.

[mizinamo]

I don't think nefret kendimden etmek makes any sense at all - I don't think you can split up nefret etmek like that.

[mizinamo]

Wow! I could figure that out after puzzling over the sentence for a second or two and figuring out how the endings make the words fit together...

...but doing that at normal conversation speed?!

[DottyEyes]

I hear you, mizinamo! And when I think of hearing this dialogue, instead of seeing it all spelled out, I sometimes feel hopeless.

[AlexinNotTurkey]

It comes with practice...I can spurt this type of stuff out like a machine now and I didn't start learning Turkish until i was 18 :)

[DottyEyes]

Yes, but we all know you're now 98 and it took 90 years! :)

[hptroll]

That would be 80 years, though! ;-)

[DottyEyes]

Oops! Maybe I had better sign up for "Duo-Math"!

[StankaVitlov]

How long have you been learning Turkish and where?

[atrunica]

And that was how many years ago?

[bellapiko]

not just me then, I feel same still DottyEyes

[SabineBergmann1]

To me happen the same. Sometimes I am thinking I never will learn that

[Hakim747]

Yes! I thought the same too! Haha.

[Hasenwinkel50]

I am also glad that I am not the only one who did not see that -n- at first...
Have fun, altogether!

[EhabMohey92]

I am glad that I am not the only one suffering :D

[el_kousy]

ı was wondering from where come the second person wıthout seeıng that N

[ali_niki]

where is [you] in this sentence

[mizinamo]

The -n- in etmeni.

[Stergi3]

Where is this "you" in the phrase?

[mizinamo]

The same place where it was when ali_niki asked the same question two weeks ago.

[o0Mira0o]

Sounds like it came out of Turkish drama :)

[SimoneDeCo4]

isn't it possible to say "(Ben) Sen benden nefret etmek istemiyorum"