Other languages from Spanish?
Hola todos :)
I recently completed my Spanish from English tree, and I'm about halfway through my English from Spanish tree, and I want to add another language from Spanish just so I can consolidate my knowledge.
My requirements for the language are that it be structurally similar and perhaps sound somewhat like Spanish. Any suggestions?
So far I've come up on Portuguese and Italian.
If you're going to do Portuguese, I would recommend doing it from English instead of from Spanish. I've done both trees, and honestly, Portuguese is so similar to Spanish that with the ES>PT tree, you can end up just getting everything right by guessing and never actually learn anything. The challenge with Portuguese is always going to be to separate it from Spanish in your head, so you're going to want to kick the habit of translating from Spanish into Portuguese, not reinforce it.
Italian from Spanish is great, though. French would be also, but Italian has got a closer sound to it.
Thanks for the comment re: Portuguese, but truthfully I wasn't necessarily aiming to become proficient in Portuguese, but rather to consolidate the Spanish. Italian sounds like a definite option though. Gracias :)
Yeah, even for consolidating, I think you'll get more out of something further removed from Spanish. In my experience, PT>ES exercises are too often a matter of just changing the spelling to provide a really useful challenge for your Spanish. =)
The really interesting option is Spanish to German, since the differences in structure mean that you really need to be on top of the Spanish. But Italian's much easier to work with if you don't want to be spending too much energy learning new vocabulary or grammar.
German seems scary(!) but when I'm ready for more of a challenge I'll check it out. I'll try the Italian for now.
Interesting perspective. I'm doing Portuguese from Spanish now, and haven't had too much trouble keeping the two languages separate. Maybe that's because I haven't gotten far enough into the tree to where I see a lot of Spanish vocabulary that I'm unsure about, but I suspect that keeping the two separate is going to continue being rather easy as I progress.
On the plus side, I can tell that my Spanish is improving too with exposure to more sentences (that was one of my motivators in choosing ES-to-PT over EN-to-PT). I've been enjoying the course, and especially so since I feel like I'm killing two birds with one stone. That said, I'm sure I'll go through the EN-to-PT aftewards, just to solidify the Portuguese and make sure I didn't miss anything obvious in the course from Spanish.
Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.
It's not confusing them that's the issue for me - it's functioning in Portuguese without just translating from Spanish. Because at least 75% of the time you can get away with just changing a few letters and calling it a day! Which is great if you don't ever want to be fluent in Portuguese (I'm personally happy with my Portunhol), but can be a bit of a hindrance if you do.
As for the course itself, the problem for me isn't that it's too difficult but that it's too easy. It's like always having the tips open in front of you! Maybe it's better if you do it before doing the course from English- I'm not sure. I did it afterwards, though, and it ended up being a pretty mindless exercise. I've been doing ES>FR recently, and despite the fact that I am way more familiar with French than Portuguese, it requires a lot more attention from me.
there are many similarities between Spanish grammar and French grammar and many words that look alike In English and French ;-)
French is another Romance language but it's definitely less similar than Portuguese. Still very similar compared to other languages though.
I started French from Spanish, but it's on the back burner until I finish the French tree. It was great, but I am not sure how easy it will be to do if you don't know any French. I'm curious to see how that goes.
I do want to pick up something unfamiliar, but that has some similarity to Spanish. Maybe I'll check that out next. Thanks for sharing!
Any Romance language (French, Catalan, Galician, Occitan, Sardinian, Italian, Leonese, Romanian...) is "somewhat like" Spanish, but they're not alike (obviously). Portuguese is (one of the big ones) the most similar in terms of overall structure, though.