"Where do we start?"

Translation:Kie ni komencas?

June 17, 2015

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Why is it "kie ni komencas" and not "kien ni komencas"?

Would the answer also be "ni komencas tie" and not "ni komencas tien"?


"komenci" is not a verb of motion. So there's also no direction and thus no accusative of direction.


Right! So the -n forms of the correlatives are only used when direction/motion are relevant, and not everywhere you'd use the -n form of a noun. Thanks for your help!


-ien correlatives mark motion, while -ie correlatives mark location. Other correlatives (e.g. kio) still take the accusative when they would normally take the accusative. http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/correlatives.html


That website has always put a bad taste in my mouth and unfortunately they are too many Esperanto speakers with the same attitude.

"The correlatives are the bete noir of many English-speaking students of Esperanto; they never seem to get them right. This is, in my opinion, a simple lack of diligence on their part; even memorizing the fifty words separately should take no more than the better part of an evening. "

In other words, if you get them mixed up or wrong you are an idiot.


This is great, I needed it!


Not quite. It's not due to correlative or noun, it's due to the function of the correlative in the sentence.


I think that makes sense. You wouldn't use a noun in a sentence like this without a preposition anyway.


Well... If we were classes wanting to start in a school, we would say that :D But normally we only start something (we start eating, we start sleeping, we start making, we start going...). "Komencigxi" is for the other meaning of "start" (the TV show started, a new age starts...)


Are pronouns absolutely necessary? If in context, one were to say "kie komencas?" Would they be understood? Would it be strange?


Which is now making me wonder; could you go more literal and say "Kie komenci?" to the room instead?


kie faru ni komencas?


When did we learn the u ending?


I think it's introduced a little before, but most of our U ending comes from "Imperative" in section 2

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