"Post longa batalo, ŝi mortis."
Translation:After a long battle, she died.
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Kiam mi unuafoje legis la frazon, mi pensis ke la batalo ne estis kontraŭ alia ludanto, sed kontraŭ ia malsano. Sed mi ankoraŭ ne komprenas, kion tiu frazo signifas. Ĉu ŝi vere mortis, aŭ ĉu ŝi nur malgajnis la ludon?
No, the verb morti is not used like that in Esperanto. I would say malvenki instead.
Kial morti, ne mortiĝi? Ĉu la vorto "mortiĝi" eĉ ekzistas? Se jes, kion ĝi signifas?
Mortiĝi signifas: "Become dead, get killed." Kutime per akcidento.
Morti nur signifas: "To die."
Mortigi signifas; "To kill"
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How can you die (morti) without becoming dead (mortiĝi)? Is this some kind of religious thing?
Edit 2017/10/20: Well I’ve been downvoted but no one has answered the important question. To die and to become dead mean exactly the same thing. Therefore there is no obvious logical reason to have both “morti” and “mortiĝi”, unless there is some subtle distinction between the two in Esperanto that does not exist in English.
Since writing the above edit I re-read Fred’s post, that mortiĝi is “usually” to die accidentally. That still seems a strange distinction, especially with the “usually” attached.
I note that “mortiĝi” is not in the Wells dictionary (1969).
Are there other verbs which have all three endings: “...igi”, “...iĝi” and “...i”?
Googling round, I find mortis is mostly use when noting a person's birth and death dates, or mentioning the bare fact that they are dead, while mortiĝis tends to be used when writing a little more actively about them dying. So at the start of a Wikipedia biography, you'll see "mortis la 30-an de majo 1778" and later, you get "Li ne revenos al Parizo ĝis 1778, laŭdata de la popolo post foresto de preskaŭ 28 jaroj. Li mortiĝis 83jaraĝa." (Voltaire) Seems to me here it's more nuance than a big difference in meaning.
Everybody talking about Sofia here I made me look up how Zofia Zamenhof actually died: in 1942, presumably by poison gas, in the Treblinka death camp. That knowledge is going to colour my understanding of all of the Sofia examples now!
There's a wonderful biography about her sister Lidia available, I hope still.
It's called "Lidia, Daughter of Esperanto"
I think "pro" better replace "kun", as I don't think she AND an illness suffered.
