https://www.duolingo.com/OrionSix

Suggestion: Freeze the timer when reporting/discussing

When I see a new, unfamiliar phrase or translation during the exercises, I like to review the comments. They may help understand why something is the way it is, or how others are understanding the language, and sometimes help understand why I may have answered incorrectly. But I must sacrifice the exercise session to do so, because the timer does not stop when looking at the discussions. The discussion only appears available after one has already given their answer, so why not stop the timer when reviewing one's answer, the correct answer and explanation, or the discussion about a translation? Even more irritating, the same applies to reporting a problem. I attempt to help fix a possible error, and end up sacrificing all my remaining time. As a user I feel I'm posed with the dilemma of choosing to stop my session (as the timer runs out) and report a problem or review the discussion, OR I can choose to continue on, but I don't have the option of returning to that particular translation/exercise to report something or review the comments. Am I missing something? Does anyone else find this frustrating?

June 24, 2015

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https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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I recommend using the search bar and searching for freeze timed practice, searching stop timed practice, and pause timed practice. This has been a hugely debated topic. People have made very good cases against pausing it. I can't recall the best ones. But, part of the value of Timed Practice is it is accessing our memory and demanding it adjust to more quickly recall what we've been learning. When we interrupt that, we lose that value.

If you want to engage in the discussions for the sentences available in the skill, Untimed Practice is available. If you have encountered an error and wish you could pause things to report it, you theoretically could choose to prioritize that. However, I wouldn't suggest it because there isn't a pressing need. It has likely been reported by many people already. If not, it will be reported by someone going through an untimed Practice.

Because we can have different priorities and want to train specific things in our brain, Duolingo offers various tools, including Flashcards (Words), Lessons we can review, Timed Practice, and Untimed Practice. Each was designed to offer something different and valuable by design. :)

June 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/tolunayo
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I think the objective of research and reporting can be achieved without stopping the timer.

At the end of the session (either by competing all 20 or when timer expires) you are allowed to review your answers. Next time you do timed practice look for it at the end of the session.

In addition to seeing that summary if they also put the buttons to report and link to the discussion forum there the whole issue of would have been resolved. You would not report etc. while you are running against the timer but you could have do all that after the session is over.

June 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessamator
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Personally, I think that they should go the other way, and remove reporting and discussing from timed practice. The reason for that is simple, timed practice simulates a situation where you have to be concentrated towards completing a goal. Discussion and reports distract from that goal. The same way phones, discussion, and reporting are not allowed in a formal assessment. However, they could add that once a practice session ends.

Duolingo tried to have their cake and eat it too, and that results in the frustration of some users.

June 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Plugghest
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DuoTweak does exactly that. I love being able to look at the discussions in between questions in the best practice mode. The best part of it being a userscript is that not everyone is forced to have it one way or the other if they don't like it.

Here's the link http://duolingo.wikia.com/wiki/Duolingo_Userscripts (at the bottom)

You'll need Greasemonkey or Tampermonkey in order to use it.

June 24, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Elizabeth261736

This defeats the purpose of the timed practice.

June 24, 2015
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