24 hours until the Language Incubator is here!
Tomorrow, October 9th, we will introduce the Duolingo Language Incubator, a way for the community to create language courses. With your help, Duolingo will soon be available in every language -- Chinese, Japanese, Russian... maybe even Elvish. All 100% free.
At first, you'll be able to build courses to learn English, Spanish, French, German, Italian and Portuguese from ANY other language in the world. And before the end of the year, it will be possible to create courses in all combinations of languages.
Duolingo: for the people, and very soon, BY the people.
It's October 9th now in China! Can't wait to create Mandarin lessons for you guys! XD
我也是等不及！ 你们都帮助了我学西班牙语， 我一定要好好教！ I can't wait! You all have helped in teaching me Spanish, so it's my turn to repay you!
Muchas gracias!!! con ganas de aprender algo de chino ..... hasta te ayudaría con la parte d eespañol si fuera necesario
Won't happen today! Only lessons from other languages to the existing ones - English, German, French, etc.
Other combinations come before the end of this year!
People won't be able to start making a Japanese course until sometime later this year though. And even then, it'll be a long time until it's any good.
Very true but hey I'm patient. We have six other languages to go through in the mean time!
You could make an Japanese to English/Spanish/French/German/Italian/Portuguese course though (native Japanese learning the mentioned courses)
Yes, I know, I never said you couldn't.
Edit: Comment hidden due to downvotes? Wow.
I know. I'm just trying to let people know that tomorrow you won't be able to start making courses for any language in the world.
I hope we don't have to wait too long after the incubator's release! Totally with you on this.
And I hope I can help you with it. 日本語がそんなに難しくないよ。漢字が面倒くさいだけ。(Japanese is not that hard. Only kanjis are troublesome.) Still, it may take some time, so we have to wait anyway.
ooh that looks pretty neat. I learned my hiragana and katakana a while back but this will be handy learning kanji! Thanks!
Not hard to get there if you start early since the launch of Duolingo and doing translation in Immersion actually gives you loads of skill points.
Any ideas on how close in quality the created courses will be to the courses already offered? I'd love to do a few other languages, but I'm not sure if the courses will be worth the time.
Each of the existing Duolingo courses took several months and many human hours to develop by the duo-team. The new courses will take a similar amount of time, distributed among several developers, so the quality and the incubation time depends actually on the number of people that will volunteer their time and knowledge, and how well they can collaborate together. On the other hand, I trust that the duo-team will not permit low quality courses to be released...
With Chinese and Japanese, please do not forget Korean! CJK are the 3 major Asian languages. I want to learn Korean!
I am learning all three, looking so much forward to be able to do this on Duolingo :D
I will help with everything I can speaking of Russian - English and Russian - German! Thank you! :)
YAY!!! I'm learning Russian with Spanish and have been WAITING for Duolingo to offer Russian!
We should talk, Dlucasfs. I've forgotten so much Esperanto. It'll be good to learn more Esperanto by helping to teach English from Esperanto.
I like very much that sort of idea. Esperanto can be useful tool for learning another languages and that using may spread the language too.
Yes, that is great idea. It is so easy that probably after learning it for a while, you won't have troubles to use it as a base. I honestly can admit that sometimes I got problems with English in my answers as they are not gramaticaly correct or I lack appropriate word. Maybe this could be solved by using Esperanto. I'll definitely give it a try :)
With English there's no easy shortcuts for grammar, you just need to memorise it. Vocabulary is the same for every language, just read a lot, listen a lot, and if you really want to know a lot of words then learn to love your dictionary and thesaurus. By all means learn other languages, but if you want to improve in one language then find an author you like and start reading.
That makes me excited to learn more and more languages, I hope my brain can handle this...
The brain can handle more than you ever imagined. We don't need to worry that your brain can't handle it. You can learn as many languages as you want and have time for during your lifetime. Your brain can handle each and distinguish them properly. Our brains are pretty amazing computers. :) The only question is time. How much time do we need to accomplish this? :) That's the big question. I speak Swedish, Polish, English fluently. I speak some German and some Arabic. My aim is to gain fluency in Arabic. I already have an accent like a native.
Thank you for that information, I guess you're right, I'm 23 years old and I speak English French smoothly and some Spanish (we learn fast when we have the will), by the way I can help you out with Arabic, It's my native language.
You're right. The most important thing is to have fun while learning. The brain handles information better that way. Therefore Duolingo is a great learning tool since they are gamifying learning. =) I would recommend using Duolingo in combination with a similar website called memrise which is a tool to help you memorize huge chunks of words. The best thing is that it will remind you of words just at the right moment when your brain is about to forget it. That's the best scientifically proven method to strengthen your vocabulary.
شكرا لك. أنا أريد أن أدرس أكثر أكثر اللغة العربية :)
I probably spelled something wrong but I don't care. At least I'm trying. :D
Okey. I confess. I have studied Arabic on my own for one year fil manzil. Now I study Arabic fil jämi3a. =) A beginner course and I am 3 weeks ahead of everyone else, lol.
I'll immediately begin to "study" English from my target languages - not ideal, but the closest thing available.
I think that's what I'll be doing as well. I'm too excited about other language combinations becoming available.
Quiero aprender quechua. Hoy en día hay muchísima gente en latinoamérica con más interés en reecontrarse con las lenguas originarias que en seguir aprendiendo lenguas europeas. Yo ya sé tres europeas: castellano, inglés y alemán, ya me toca aprender una lengua de por aquí. :)
I love Hungary, Hungarian and the Hungarian people. :) I'm willing to learn your language when English - Hungarian becomes available in the future.
"At first, you'll be able to build courses to learn English, Spanish, French, German, Italian and Portuguese from ANY other language in the world. "
So, we'll be able to create "Learn English from Esperanto".... but not "Learn Esperanto from English". Yes?
"Before the end of the year" release date for that will probably be December 31st. :P
Sorry to interrupt the euphoria party with with some reality.. but this won't be the bee's knee's from the get go. It will start small, and only through the collective hard work, will it become the most awesome thing ever.
See this less as a gift, and more as an opportunity to give something to the word... or at least that part of the world has has access to computers and high speed internet connections..
I see it as both a gift and an opportunity. I'll learn Esperanto better by teaching English from an Esperanto base.
But if that's later this year then what exactly is going to happen in 20 hours time? I thought that was all going to happen then?
Read the opening post and you'll understand.
"At first, you'll be able to build courses to learn English, Spanish, French, German, Italian and Portuguese from ANY other language in the world. And before the end of the year, it will be possible to create courses in all combinations of languages."
So no courses for learning Danish, Icelandic, Korean, etc. can be built until later this year.
Sadly you're right, but I meant that I will be adding Danish as a native possibility to learn from! After that it's just a small step to actually learn conversing in the Danish tongue!
These are great news! Many Spanish speakers wanted to learn French, Portuguese, Italian or German but did not know English (or not enough to feel comfortable studying in that language), so I am sure this will attract more users and make it easier for them to enjoy the site :]
Will take a look at it and help if I can :D
I can't wait to learn Russian! It's one of the most beautiful sounding languages in the world in my opinion.
I think a lot of you guys are getting the wrong impression. You won't be able to start making courses for any language tomorrow.
"At first, you'll be able to build courses to learn English, Spanish, French, German, Italian and Portuguese from any other language in the world. And before the end of the year, it will be possible to create courses in all combinations of languages."
Where in the world did I say that or even imply that? You just made that up.
I simply said what I said because it's true. Look around this thread and you'll see people who think that tomorrow people will be able to build courses for any combination of languages.
I will provide as much info as possible in Arabic. I am not an expert but I know the basics pretty well. =)
I'll help out with Hebrew/English and English/Hebrew! I have native-level fluency in both. And I've been wanting to learn Arabic for awhile, so I can't wait for that. Exciting!
I am in England. what time will the incubator be released? 12:00 am at eastern time or something like that? i don't want to be impatient, i just am :) thanks
Seeing how this topic was posted approximately 18 hours ago, I guess we have about 6 hours of waiting left :)
I can help with creating German from Italian. It's what I've been doing for the last seven years. :)
This is simply amazing! I would love to learn even more languages and to encourage friends who don't know how to speak English to learn German... it's such a beautiful language.
It's about time! (^o^)/ I was wondering when more languages would be added, but this has certainly surpassed my expectations.
Huzzah! Best wishes to DuoLingo, the incubator, and the people of the world!
I'll help with Tagalog to English and little bits towards the other ones that I know of. (Para sa mga Pilipino dyan, tulong-tulong tayo.)
Well done, Duolingo! I am so excited that you have decided to give the community the tools it needs to continue growing. You guys rock!
At the moment, the Spanish and Portuguese courses on Duolingo are more geared toward the Latin American varieties. With the language incubator, will we be able to create courses specifically dedicated towards the European varieties for those that want to learn it? Or will the course be more a meld of both? And of course, this question also applies to different languages with significant regional differences as well, like Mandarin Chinese vs. Cantonese
I've commented on that previously - I think it would be a great idea. Or perhaps a "branch" off of the tree for dialectical differences when the dialects do not vary wildly from the main.
All Arabic speakers that know arabic well, please add me so that we can make Arabic available. ;) Arabic has many dialects. Duolingo should focus on teaching MSA Arabic. It's the formal arabic that they speak on the news and it's understood by all arabs.
I think that'll be dependent on the Arabic-speaking users who want to work on it. I'd love to learn MSA down the road - I'd also like to learn Levantine Arabic in specific though, so the more specific dialects shouldn't be ignored either.
I agree that the specific dialects shouldn't be ignored. I just meant that MSA is most important. Than comes Egyptian dialect and Levantine Arabic.
Yes indeed. I will focus on Swedish since I'm swedish and let the arabs do the work for the Arabic course. =)
Starting out with MSA before learning a dialect is better. It will give you a good foundation of the language.
I'm gonna focus on helping with Polish-English lessons, for my dad to finally learn English! Other courses didn't do him much good so far - so I'm hoping DL will :)
Będę również pomóc z polskiego do angielskiego. Jestem Szwedem ale również Polakiem. Ja również będę starać się.
I'll add you as friend. ;)
Yeah! Time to make Croatian-German and Croatian-English courses (if possible German-Croatian and English-Croatian as well) :)
People won't be able to start making those courses until sometime later this year.
Edit: What's with the downvotes? I was simply pointing out a fact.
Edit 2: I said that because I was negative points, but now I am not obviously. It just seemed weird. I am simply trying to inform people.
Some people love to hate. So your comment is the reason why coffee didn't taste good this morning, why the weather was too cold or too warm, why this significant other never called back, now that I think about it I am sure that because of your comment the bus was late two months ago...
People are gonna whine and hate because that's not what they wanna hear. They don't understand that you're just trying to clarify the facts.
I understand that people aren't happy with the decision to open up the Incubator in 2 parts, but in the end it will hopefully be for the better.:) I want to learn Korean via Duolingo. It's actually the language I am learning atm and the reason I deleted my German progress.
I tried clarifying this on Reddit weeks ago, not many people seemed to care enough to read it.
you are trying to clarify something answering a comment that never said 'I will be able to do it tomorrow' which looks odd to me. It's even more weird that you have the green owl as the avatar which might confuse people that the clarification is coming from the official team. That's my explanation of my negative vote although I understand your good intentions :)
Great! I hope I'll be active in this segment of the amazing page. Thank you for this!
I'll be helping Greek/English courses!
I'm going to sign up for Swedish to English.
But, I'm not actually learning English, I'm learning Swedish!
It is around 2:00 AM at duolingo headquarters. I guess they are going to release it when their work day starts sometime in the morning (in 4-6 hours from now).
It would be so cool to revive that language. A language isn't dead as long as there are people willing to speak it. =)
That seems great. My native language is Portuguese but I speak English too.
Anyone interested in working on Gaelic? I would love to learn it before I head off to the Outer Hebrides.
Does anyone have any idea how easy it would be to learn a course in the opposite direction? I already know English, but I want to learn other languages.
Probably won't happen for a while, since not very many people know Elvish or Klingon yet. But that will probably change soon! :D
I think it would be especially fun if somebody made an Elvish to Klingon tree, and never made an English to Klingon tree. The only way to learn Klingon would be to learn Elvish first. That could turn out very interesting, I think!
That already happens with physical books. Assimil publish a lot of language learning materials that aren't covered by the English speaking world, so if you want to learn Tamil, Roma, or Breton, then you need to learn French first.
"Suilad, mellyn!" "Greetings, friend!" That's about all the Elvish I know.
I wish they had galiffreyen to :( But that is made up of circles. :P (Doctor Who)
Oh. Yash. I just realized that river used that in the time of angels (or something like that) to get a hold of the doctor.
It might be a dead language but I'd be interested in adding to an Old English course :)
Might even actually be relevant to Elvish.
A couple of us are working on getting OE going, as soon as Duolingo started paying attention to the smaller languages. Of course its initial focus will be on langs with the greatest demand. The tools here look great for contributors.
What kind of website is that? Maybe it would be better to refer to the original: http://ed.ted.com/lessons/are-elvish-klingon-dothraki-and-na-vi-real-languages-john-mcwhorter
Wimp is a video site, much like Youtube except the quality of picks is higher and there's no comments.
So pretty much perfect.
Thank you for your answer. It looks a bit dodgy and I was not sure if that was due to my browser blocking something or if it was supposed to be like that. I now noticed it being family friendly, so it seems fine. I'll leave it up to others to decide for themselves whether the quality of picks is higher or not.
Just as NewtonWren said, Wimp is a video site. Thanks for posting the TED link by the way. :)
I'm quite sure that translating flirt lesson sentences from Elvish to Klingon would be hilarious.
Are there any Text-to-Speech voices for Elvish, Klingon, Dothraki, and Na'vi yet?
quiere decir que estaran escritas las palabras en español y desde mi idioma puedo ,por ejemplo aprender portugues? alguien me daria una respuesta ,gracias amigos.
Sí, tú puedes aprender portugues desde español, pero vas a tener que esperar hasta que el curso es creado. Y también cuando está creado, necesitas esperar para que el curso sea bueno.
Does anyone know if the existing courses are going to be able to be extended immediately, or when the incubator is later opened to all languages?
Dutch and Afrkaans would be pretty similar, so Dutch speakers and Afrkaans speakers would be able to come together, share their language and create several different courses :)
I know that, starting tomorrow, you'll only be able to make courses for learning the languages currently on Duolingo, but will we be able to add lessons to current courses starting tomorrow? Or is that also coming later?
Russian and Arabic, please!! Ich liebe Deutsch, aber Russisch und Arabisch sind sehr toll auch!
Looking forward to the Japanese - I teach and develop online lessons, will definitely refer my students here for practice!
I've learned that the younger you are (e.i. i'm 15 years old) you'll learn languages faster. Might as well take the advantage now. Can't wait to learn Arabic (x
Since I can't have English to Russian until December, I'll just look at the Russian to English courses. I'm interested to see how they explain the concept of "the" and "a" to Russian speakers.
Well... I guess you can use those as substitutes, though the meaning is different. It's kind of like my Russian teacher trying to explain "kakoy" to us. We just don't have that word, so she has to say like "what kind of" or "describe this thing."
Hello! Its amazing! I want to learn french, im a native spanish speaker and i speak a little of english. Who can be my coach? Thanks
Will language teachers beallowed to promote their services using the incubator? I can imagine my Swiss-German teacher participating, but she would want to put the name of her school on things.
maybe i can translate English to Turkish, and maybe From English to Turkish too
im trying to earn spanish its hard but by gods help he will help me with it..............go spanish
Really i still dont understand it, so tomorrow I can translate Spanish to Dutch but not Dutch to Spanish, or is it only the 5 languages they are using right now that they are mixing up. Really i'm sorry but everything is a little bid confusing. Maybe I just have to wait until tomorrow and see for myself
YAY! Have been waiting for this. I need this to help my English-speaking students learn Bahasa Indonesia and Indonesian-speaking students to learn English (plus, I can learn even MORE languages!). Can't wait. ;)
Would we be able to create languages but from the country? For ex:Sicilian, or Argentinian. They both are in one country or continent, but would we be able to add them and other dialects to the current Spanish and Italian, or do we simple create a new language and not add them to the current languages?
Maybe it's an idea for Duo for down the road - a "branch" for dialects, for those so interested, rather than a whole tree...
I really want to learn english with french .....i think i still leak of some skills ... i need to rebuild it
So, for the time being, people are only going to be able to make courses for other foreign language speakers to learn the languages DL already has available?
Enjoying learning Espanol at the moment, however if you were able to get languages like Japanese and Korean up that'd be great. 日本語お願い 한쿸오주세요
just imagine how awesome will it be if everybody just started talking elvish
Defintely. I would like some advanced or specialized Spanish. And a course that compares Spanish and Portuguese.
This is so awesome the word awesome can't convey this project's awesomeness.
I've got a conlang called Acadian that I'm willing to teach to people. If you can learn English or Spanish, you can learn Acadian. It's simple.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but there was a legitimate natlang spoken maybe four or five millennia ago called Akkadian...
Send Duolingo to all your Facebook friends. Let's unleash the power of crowd sourcing and make language learning a human right for everyone regardless if the person is rich or poor.
Judging by when this was created, it should be about 5 PM for all you Brits out there (like me) when we get it.
I can see the Egyptian flag in the picture. It means that Arabic will be implemented in the future which is a good thing.
Since this is a language learning site, let me correct your grammar, "Can anybody see the Incubator yet?"
I want to learn more Japanese, since my classes don't seem to be teaching me much ^^"
I want to learn russian from english and I also want to learn reading and writing chinese.
Let us learn our Arabic! Arabic is one of the top 10 languages in the World.
This is probably out there for saying, but I wonder if pig Latin has made it as a bonus skill for English, English is my first language so I have not checked myself. Learning pig Latin would be easy (if you know English), it would have to be a bonus skill or bonus/for fun language. American sign language would be another one of those languages that may be more of a bonus language (for English speakers) cause it would be more visual learning because it's all about body language, but this would be a great thing to learn for to help those that are hearing impaired. There are also some languages that are mainly used in certain religions or cultures as well. I could go into which have them, but that comes closer to sliding off topic
All of these could be taught in other languages as well Sign language is a great thing to have even if you don't know someone that is hearing impaired. If you have friends that learn it as well, you could use it for talking in places with loud music where yelling is one of your only options, it also lowers the chances of you embarrassing yourself trying to yell to someone and the music stops suddenly or someone gets irritated because you are yelling when they are trying to listen the the music.
Well, there's my two cents, I hope I did not waste them!