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German Tree is Very Demotivating

So, I'm in the late stages of the tree (Currently Adverbs 2) and I have been using more streak freezes than ever lately because I am so demotivated to do more. I feel like they left all the boring and long skills until the end, since most of them have 7 - 10 lessons in them, is there any way to stay motivated and continue doing them without getting bored? What's the best way to go at conquering the late stages of the tree? Thanks.

3 years ago

21 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/anne_omoly

I would remember that you're here to learn German, not conquer Duo. If Duo's killing the fun out of learning German, step back for a bit. Use dw.de for a while, or memrise, or watch German tv or listen to music, or listen to some language tapes. If you're desperate to keep your streak going, come back, do a lesson, and go again, or do a review to keep your tree gold.

Remember: those 7-10 lessons are still very, very compact. There's probably more new in a single lesson than there was in the whole of a skill section earlier in the tree.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Roxick
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I would like to echo this sentiment. The very same thing happened to me, I finally had to realize exactly this, I'm here to learn German not "conquer Duo". The conquer mentality worked great in the beginning and was perfect for keeping me motivated at the early stages. I got to the lower lessons and had the same problem you did, I switched over to listening to audio lessons, specifically "Deutsch - Warum Nicht" from Deutsche Welle. I threw out the mentality that I needed to keep up a streak and instead focused on learning German. After 4 series for Deutsch - Warum Nicht, I tested out of over 10 skills. Hope this is helpful to you.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Simisu

that´s a good mentality... i just started a few days ago but i´ve been repeating lessons and doing more workouts than trying to push forward. i don´t see how making xp can be a problem with so much skills to practice! that said, i started on a whim and i really don´t know if i can keep this up... i guess it´s a sort of test for duolingo, is it good enough to actually teach me? or at least get me curious enough to want to study more in depth? we´ll see...

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/anne_omoly

Snap! Warum Nicht is a really, really good series and after 2/3 of the Duo tree the first few series felt a lot more like revision than grinding learning. (Also Radio D, and fluentu)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nebelung1
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Maybe they could add a "People 2", "Animals 2", "Feelings 2" or "Food 2" somewhere at the end of the tree. I remember those being fun so maybe that could help some with their motivation.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/acegikl
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Deutsche Sprache = schwere Sprache

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Raisinnoir
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Selbstverstaendlich. Aber nicht unmoeglich.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/acegikl
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genau!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheRCPanda

Ja, das ist korrekt :P

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RoboticTool

You are further along in German than me, but if I may suggest...

You could get the Reverse tree going for German.

You could also do some easier German stuff to let your mind rest and maybe absorb some of the harder stuff so when you got back it will be easier.

Danke.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/muhaaas

I don't see the problem if each skill has 3 or 10 lessons. It takes years for kids to absorb a language let alone speak it well. And yet they have to study it again and again starting from kindergarten. All of that to master it.

So you need to take your time and try not rush the last few skills with the goal of only beating the tree. If you are finding the process of finishing the last part of the tree to be somewhat monotonous, just take a break and go find some other small resources such as kids books/comics/sitcoms or whatever you find interesting . Then head back to the tree. :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larkspire
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I drew it out over months and did two lessons from one skill each day. Learning German outside Duo also helped - I managed to skip a few skills by testing out of them.

You're right, though. Aside from arts and spiritual (and I guess sports), it gets very boring and repetitive. I feel like I've done nothing but different business and abstract object skills since March. It's also weird that the last skill is a set of present tense verbs — it seems much more basic than skills that come up much earlier, like the passive voice.

edit: Oh, and nothing wrong with taking a break when you need it, too. If you'd rather not reduce your coach goal: Timed practice is much more fun than ordinary strengthening, and once you get above translation tier 1, Immersion is a ridiculously lucrative source of XP.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheRCPanda

Thanks! Is there any way to take a break and not lose my streak without having to spend all my lingots on streak freezes?

Edit: Oh god thanks for the lingots... xD!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Larkspire
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Not as far as I know, but you could always set your daily goal to 1xp, which is pretty easy to deal with.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lorel90
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Keep going. You are almost there, this is no time to quit or slow down, the fastest you go the fastest you will be over with it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/-..--..-.-.-.-

Just bite down and keep moving?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChukyBlairBass

It happened exactly the same to me. What more can I say? I hope they can fix it, because i'm finding it extremely tedious, I'm in abs. objc 2. But I've started the german tree around one year and a half before and I'm taking some sabatic months because I get to frustated with some skills.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Raisinnoir
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The answer lies within you. How badly do you really WANT to learn German? Desire is the best anecdote for boredom. You've got to keep on keeping on. There were times when I felt like quitting, but I rule that out as an option. My tree has been gold for months, and I've done the reverse tree but I'm still struggling to get German grammar right on a daily basis. I have issues with some of Duolingo's techniques, send them a report when I do, and have had the satisfaction of having some of my translations accepted. So keep at it. We're all here to help each other.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/astrylian

How long do you spend on Duolingo per day? I usually supplement each Duolingo course with its Memrise companion, so that I can reinforce the vocabulary elsewhere. So, altogether, I would say that it's about 15 minutes per day. It may seem boring, but if you could approach it as a necessary, albeit mundane task, you might improve your relationship with Duolingo. It can be like a work out, or another improvement exercise that you build with discipline. Take the time to repeat lessons as necessary, because eventually they will become a breeze and you'll have built a strong foundation off of them.

I understand if you are restless with your current lessons, or have dreams of conquering the entire tree. When you're so far into the tree, it seems like your goal of fluency is closer and plausible. I know the feeling, because I become really impatient sometimes, and I want to speed through, especially in lessons that have several parts and seem to go on and on. I want to be fluent, to conquer advanced grammar!

But if you look at the big picture rather than your small steps, it's easy to become discouraged.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gimcrack

Eat the whale in bite sized pieces, one hour per day. That is how I did it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elgatobandido
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I wanted to refresh the German I forgot from High School and reinforce my Spanish after I've finished the Spanish and English from Spanish tree so I'm taking the German from Spanish tree.

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