https://www.duolingo.com/GypsyDavey

"He talks about the right dresses."

December 28, 2012

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https://www.duolingo.com/chanadet

OK I'm now confused. Didn't this lesson just say that it is: "DE bonnes fraises", and NOT DES bonnes fraises", .... because "des" becomes "de" in front of an adjective? Sooooo... why is it "Il parle DES bonnes robes" here? Please explain!

January 6, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf
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Because the verb is "parler de" + definite article.

So, here, "des" is not the indefinite article, but the contraction of "de-les" (= of the); i.e. preposition "de" + definite article "les".

January 6, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/chanadet

Wow! You are awesome. Your explanation is something this program should incorporate into their teaching, perhaps as a hotlink when this type of difference comes up. This program needs to address grammar .... unless I'm missing it somewhere? Thank you!!

January 6, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy
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Sitesurf....Another good explanation! Maybe Duolingo should post a link to a page by you where you cover the known sticky issues for users. It would definitely help reduce frustration.

February 3, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/northernguy
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Sitesurf ....Because of your answer I was able to translate this example the second time around with confidence and correctly because of your explanation.

Thank you. Now I understand the use of de and des.

February 3, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf
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That's a step... no more waste of time with that! You can move on with confidence now.

February 4, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/mariannag929

please explain to me why sometimes is right to put adjective in front of noun an sometimes it's right the opposite..like 'bonnes robes' but 'mot juste'

January 24, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/GypsyDavey

If I can have "le mot juste", why can't I have "les robes justes"?

December 28, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf
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"juste" is rather "fair" which would be strange.

By the way, if you read/see "cette robe est un peu juste", it would mean that it is too tight.

December 29, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/bdflynn
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From my understanding, juste is more of an "absolute" or "accurate" sort of right where as bon (bonne(s)) is "correct" or "appropriate" type of right, more casual.

December 29, 2012

https://www.duolingo.com/pwillia7

il parle des robes correctes? (does this work?)

January 13, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf
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Not much. Contrary to "right dresses" would be "wrong dresses". In French "bonnes robes" (the ones of interest to the discussion) vs "mauvaises robes" (ie not the ones of interest to the discussion)

January 13, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/smarinoff

That's what I thought but the explanations here make sense. 'Bon' takes on the sense of 'right' or 'correct', in this context.

January 22, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/jimd1000

This english translation is not good. It should read: He talks about nice dresses.

January 13, 2013

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Bonnes doesn't mean right?...

January 26, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/DuFarge

I translated it as 'il parle de robes propres'. Would that not work....on some level?

February 6, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/pwillia7

I believe that is "He talks about clean dresses".

February 7, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sarahlorien

I want to know why the adjective goes in front of the subject in this sentence when usually it's after... please explain! Thanks!

February 10, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf
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In 90% of cases, the adjective is placed after the noun. However, please read the following to know about exceptions. http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/adjectives_4.htm

February 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/GypsyDavey

Thank you very much Sitesurf. That BAGS acronym is very useful.

February 11, 2013

https://www.duolingo.com/Fairlie

Love the BAGS idea - helps a lot. Thank you, Sitesurf

February 11, 2013
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