"Ben birinciyim."

Translation:I am the first.

June 29, 2015

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What is the difference between ilk and birinci?


"birinci" is mostly used when you want to stress the numeric value of "one." When you are talking about the "first" in a sequence or the first time doing things, you would normally use "ilk." :)


This exercise should not be a listening excercise.


"Ben birinciyim." → "I am the first."

"Ben bir inciyim." → "I am a pearl."


lılacfrogs ıs correct... they are definitely not the same.

"I am the first" is indefinite and absolute. I am the first... son of my mother. I am the first man to climb mount everest. No one can ever replace me being that.

"I am first" is relative and circumstantial. There is also a difference in grammatical English between writing the word first and using the number 1st

generally 1st 2nd 3rd is positional compared to other ordinal sequences

First, second, third is specifying facts or figures etc.


As a native English speakerI don't see a difference between first and 1st, except that in formal writing you wouldn't write the shortcut 1st. In all the comments, no one placed the English version in connection with its Turkish translation. I am guessing, because i don't see this a clearly as some writers do, that Neal Armstrong was birince, not ilk?? Does a child say: "Ben birince!" mi yoksa "Ben ilk!" mi?


So here it means both of "I am first" & "I am the first"?


They are the same in English too, no? Since there can only be one thing that is first, it must be "the" first.


As a native English speaker, my opinion is that they are slightly different in connotation.

"I am first" seems more like a temporary thing like "I'm first in line," or "I get first pick." Basically, "I'm first today" or almost "I'm next."

"I am the first" seems more stressed, like "I am the very first ever." In a situation where no one has ever done that before.

If I were at a bank and there were several people there but no clear line and the teller asked, "who is first?" I would never answer with "I am the first." I would answer with "I am first" or, more likely, "I'm first."

"I am the first" is more likely the answer to the question, "how many people have done this before you?"


Sarah, after your explanation, it looks like this nuance could be also the difference between ilk and birinci. Can someone comment on that?


Thx so much. I have one more question. Is there a distinctive difference in terms of pronunciation between "I am first" and "I'm first."? Thanks in advance.


Oh yes, there is a very distinct difference.

"I'm" is one syllable. If I were to try to spell it in Turkish it would probably look like "aym"

"I am" is two syllables. I'm not sure how I would spell it in Turkish. When you say it like you would in normal speech (as opposed to when speaking to be super clear and separating all words out) it's a bit like "ayem."


Because i am not a native speaker of English, i do not get the nuance of these two sentences ( I am first and I am the first). Can you explain it?


Hehe, kids lining up to play on a swing: 'I'm first! I'm first!'

Neil Armstrong stepping on the moon: 'I'm the first.'


And which is ilk and which is birince?


why can't it be "I am the first one" ?

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