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"Meinem Mädchen ist nicht schlecht."

5 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/joukko-oppi

Why isn't "My girl is not bad" valid?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/f.formica
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In "My girl is not bad" you'd use "mein", while "meinem" is dative, so it's rather "to my girl is not bad". Which wouldn't make much sense if not for the idiomatic usage.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/thetimesurfer

I don't understand this, can someone explain further? It's not a dative-only preposition case, or anything like that.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ACardAttack

So if I want to say "I am sick" would I say "Mir bin schlecht"? It seems like if you use schlecht with in the dative it seems to mean sick and in the nominative it means bad?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dTos
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Because in this case, it's not saying that "your girl is not [a] bad [person]", but rather that she "is not [feeling] bad. I think it's idiomatic?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StuartLilly

F. Formica answers my query well, but that's after I've already made a mistake. I wasn't aware of this idiomatic phrase before this question - it would be nice if Duolingo made newcomers to German aware of such phrases if they're going to phrase questions in such a manner.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lieryan
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The way duo introduces you to new phrases is by making you try to guess its meaning; then figured out that its idiomatic meaning after a failure. Not a bad way to do it in my opinion; in any case, us beginners rarely passed the lessons in our first try anyway.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/floaterions

I understood from other comments that this sentence is idiomatic. Just to make sure, when we want to talk about whether someone's feeling bad or not, we use the dativ form. Is that about correct?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dTos
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Yeah, I believe so. This is what I infer from the lessons. There are a few dative expressions like this. I think the word "feeling" is implied. I THINK it's more directly translated to "To my girl, it is not bad", indicating that internally she doesn't feel bad. It's like "Mir ist Kalt" - "I am cold", or directly: "To me, it is cold". If I used accusative "Ich bin Kalt", then I'd be saying "I am a cold/frigid person."

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Germandy
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Yes, you pretty much got the hang of it!!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lucasmourelle

I think it may be the same reason why in German one should say: "Mir geht es gut." Instead of usen the first person in nominative case.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/menacinghat

why is this dative?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JungleFritz

It's the ending on the possessive. "Meinem" is dative, while nominative or accusative for neuter nouns like "Madchen" would simply be "mein".

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mikelucas

The word 'schlecht ' has meant bad or poor,up to now, and the drop down menu still gives this translation. it has never been used for 'ill', in fact the German word for 'ill' is 'krank'. To change word meaning is confusing and misleading, I understand that interpretation of a sentence is necessary as an exact translation is not always possible, however in this instance perhaps the sentence itself should be looked and changed.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/COTAP
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So "meinem" is used in dative case for both neuter and masculine nouns?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Germandy
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Yes, COTAP, that's correct!

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CallMeAnja

See, I didn't know that. Good to know.

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fraanmarelli

Why is "My girl is not well" bad?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Germandy
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Because your girl isn't not well - she is well! ;)

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ohnopandaho

my girl is not ugly is wrong?

5 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dTos
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Yes. Schlecht = bad ... i believe 'häßlich' is 'ugly'

5 years ago