Divide and conquer
I suggest that you split this section in 2 parts, because there are to many verbs in one place. I think that way it would be much easier for beginners and they would be less prone to loose motivation.
I agree. Feel like I've hit a wall. Making good progress and then 40 verbs and all there conjugations come along in one section. Would be better to split them up and focus on only a handful of verbs until learnt before adding more. Love the course btw and will persevere in practise mode before doing more modules.
If anyone's taken Latin, that helps A LOT. I'll admit, some of the forms still confuse me....but most of the time, remembering the Latin root helps. *Edit* More realistically, if you know any Spanish, that will probably help a lot.
Actually, knowing Spanish (but not fluently) hurt me rather than helped. I took six years of Spanish in school then moved to Italy. I ended up confusing the two all the time. I think native Spanish speakers would find it quite easy, but if you're not fluent in either it gets really confusing. I'm just embarrassed that I've forgotten sooo much Italian now, 20 years later!
I took three years in school, but I think it's been long enough since then that I don't get them mixed up (honestly I just remember very little Spanish lol). What I do remember is grammar and since Italian grammar is very similar, that's very helpful.
I should know Spanish after doing it for many years straight, but the way they teach it in my schools is just not good. Haha! I know like 7 words!
I'm native Spanish speaker and it helps, but there is a point where some words get mixed up, specially grammar, They sound alike but they are written in a different way.
Ah, the awesomeness of learning related languages... I definitely agree. I haven't officially studied Latin, but from having eight teachers insisting on drilling 200 Latin stems into your head, there are definitely some obvious relations: -prend=take, prendere=to take, -ten=hold, tenere=to hold... As for confusing Spanish and Italian...I shall be doing that forever. But,like the above comments say, it‘s way easier when you know one a lot better than the other.
I agree. It is a lot to learn at once. My way to handle it is to focus on one lesson at a time and repeat it until I succeed and remember the words and their forms. I also hover over the new words and take a look at the conjugations.
That does make sense, but it doesn't really affect my working on it. I'm still in the middle of it and I haven't lost motivation yet, because I know how long it will take considering how many verbs I'm going to have to learn. If they split it up, it would add more clutter to the tree but would be more motivating for some people. I agree with your point, but I don't think it really matters much.
What you need to do is to go through each lesson within this section a few times before moving on to the next. You will not learn as much as you should If you just speed through all of the sections.
What I did was do 1 lesson every few days, and then write down every new verb and its conjugation on a flash card to help memorize it. It works well for everything except "piacere"
Also agree. This is tough going - a lot to take in all at once. I'm taking notes like I'm in a class!
I do the same thing, but I find it helpful anyway The best way I´ve found to tackle these verbs is to do just 2 lessons at a time If you do that you will learn about 14 new verbs Of course you should learn the conjugations as well Then go back and redo those lessons, you will find new sentence constructions that will help solidify those new verbs*
I find it helpful to copy the conjugation hints onto a word document. you can group them by types of verb. after a while you see that there are only a few patterns and some irregular verbs. also most of the verbs resemble English words with similar meanings if that helps to remember them. But piacere is difficult!
I agree. I've been stuck on this lesson for like two weeks now because it's a lot to remember. Splitting it up would help a lot.
So many verbs at once is really confusing. I keep getting them all mixed up, and I'm worried that once I've finished this section, they'll all just be a tangle in my mind.
This section is not staged properly. Its too difficult. There is a big difference between the last normal tasks such as stage 7 or wherever the stage finishes. Some of these irregular verbs have never been visited in the regular practices and then suddenly the learner is being faced with a huge battery of irregular and difficult verbs. OK we should learn them, but so suddenly so soon is demanding and frustratingly difficult. I have had to persevere somehow to get easy a 50% score where I was hitting +3 hearts very easily before going onto the speed test. Yet the speed test is vitally important as it is less predictable like real speech.
Also the practise session swipes itself closed so fast that you cannot see your last mistake to correct it and learn what you have done wrong ??? This is also frustrating so you are left reinforcing that mistake as it were.....
I'm finding it easier, and I retain what I learn better, if I just do two sections (no matter the number in a lesson) at a time. That, and finding a way to link the English version of the verb with the Italian, helps. (Aspetto is a close approximation of expect, which is a synonym of wait).
Also, most of the verbs in Italian have regular conjugation; they're not as unpredictable as English. Nearly every verb, and all that we've so far learned, has "o" at the end for first person singular, "i" for second person singular, "amp" for first person plural, etc. Learn the root, and the conjugations are much easier than in our own language!
First three -> Colors(1) -> next two -> Colors(2) -> last two + lots of practice mode in-between.
I agree! This section really broke my momentum and motivation. I got frustrated and took a few weeks off just to clear my head and then came back and did a lot of reviews of the earlier lessons before I ventured back into this section. I'd really prefer to focus on fewer words and build from there. I expect learning a new language to be challenging but this section is so challenging the learning process stopped being fun.