https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

Would it already be time for Finnish?

As a Finnish person I hate to say that we are still missing "Finnish from English" possibility here in Duolingo. And I have read that I'm not the only one here. I would love to be one of the "Finnish for English speakers" contributors but for some reason this idea hasn't got that much support. Finnish is my native language and I have studied English for about 10 years. It's not perfect but I think I could still help with making the course. C'mon Finns, let's get this finally done! ;)

P.S. Even though I haven't been that active in Duolingo it doesn't mean I wouldn't like to help with the course. :)

July 6, 2015

38 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer

Believe me, the idea has a lot of support. Plenty of people have also applied but having even more volunteers is never a bad thing (go here).

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

I have already done that, twice to be honest... x) I just don't understand why we can't start creating the course now, especially if we have a good amount of people behind it too.

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/ZeDocter

I have tried applying for Estonian for English speakers before, but I also hope the language of my neighbours is also added (Finnish). I plan to learn Finnish.

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/soedori

It's totally up to Duolingo, and remember that there might be more applicants of a certain language, which will make Finnish less... noticeable to the Duolingo team. What I can say right now to all English speaking Finns is

APPLY

APPLY

APPLY

Also, one of the reasons that could be hindering Finnish is that it is a agglutinative language, and I have to say, working with one on the Incubator is horrible, as the Incubator is not optimized for agglutinative languages.

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer

Luckily for Finnish, what we lose in population (and thus in the number of possible applicants), we win in popularity, so noticeability shouldn't be a problem. But yes, if you speak at least intermediate English and Finnish, apply. As for agglutination: it might hinder Finnish but since they were comfortable adding Klingon, I don't see it as a reason not to add another popular agglutinative language.

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/soedori

But Klingon was going to be added from the start. Also... what I mean by that is Duo will need to invest more resources in maintaining the course, thus, it will be a less popular option for Duolingo

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

You are definitely right with that one. I can already guarantee it's going to cause some problems but nothing we couldn't overcome! ;) My greatest hope is that once we start creating the course we could have plenty of skilled contributors. I wouldn't be suprised if Finnish was actually the hardest language in Duolingo x)

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/TL---

Yup, I too have sent in my application a long time ago. I think that the course should have fairly many contributors right from the beginning, which could make it easier for certain people to become "experts" (be familiar with all the rules, not just know how it goes, and be able to explain it to others) in a certain part of the language, which in turn would make the process much quicker and smoother (than if everyone would learn kind of every rule etc., which is very time consuming). But it definitely won't be problem-free, but as Viltsu said: nothing we couldn't overcome. :)

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/savourtardis

I think I've heard--and I might be wrong--that the incubator may only have the capacity to develop so many languages at once, probably due to demands on programming staff and such. But two languages are at >90%, so perhaps this will help to get more new languages into development when they enter beta.

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Lingophilic

Lingots for mentioning Finnish!

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

Lingots for giving lingots! And thanks... :P

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl

Lingots for giving lingots for giving lingots for mentioning Finnish.

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

Lingots for... Well... I don't even want to bother... Here are your lingots x)

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl

Welcome to the club. Have some lingots. :)

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/duonks
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Lingots for being so quick at giving lingots for giving lingots for giving lingots for mentioning Finnish.

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Moomingirl

Anything for Finnish. :D

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/TL---

Yay! :D

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Neco_Coneco

I really want Finnish so badly!

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

Here are your lingots, sir ;)

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Neco_Coneco

That's so nice of you. Kiitos!

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

Ole hyvä :)

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Monsieur_Bovary

As I said for Icelandic, I really hope a Finnish from English course can be added ASAP... unfortunately I can't contribute, since Finnish is not my native language :-(

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/galletarodeanda

it is not a must to be a native speaker. Usually the course moderators have to be either crazy good at it or be native speakers of one language. The other contributors have to be very good as well of course but it is not a must to be a native speaker. So, you can apply if you are fluent or high intermediate level in Finnish I'd say without fearing too much.

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Monsieur_Bovary

I did not explain myself very well... I meant I'm neither a native speaker (I'm Italian), nor a speaker, although I'd love to learn some Finnish :-)

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/galletarodeanda

alright then. Well, learn learn learn and then apply apply apply :D

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Gluehbirneee

Annan sinulle lingotteja, koska sinäkin haluat suomen kurssia! :) (Please correct)

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

Almost correct, soumen -> suomen, and that's it ;)

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Gluehbirneee

Oops! ^^ I hate typos..... But thanks for correcting it! :)

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Vstig

Hey Viltsu, thanks for applying to build the course!

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/drearywinter

Yeah, I wanna see/take Finnish!

July 8, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/fr224

They can only add so many languages at once.

July 6, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a

Indeed! And apparently a staff member had replied when asked why Finnish hasn't been picked yet that it is because of lack of demand for it. This thread is an expression of both supply and demand ;-)

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

Agreed. Suprisingly there still was demand for Klingon :P Well, we can just keep our fingers crossed I guess... I have a dream that one day we will have Finnish in Duolingo!

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/annika_a

It's not that surprising to me. The (English speaking, in particular) world is full of Star Trek fans, many of whom would be interested in or at least curious about a Klingon course. It's a chance for Duolingo to get into the headlines, and there are already 32,000 interested people signed up to be notified when it's out in beta. For Duolingo's sake, I hope this doesn't backfire when it takes a long time to get there.

Finnish is not as obviously, headline-grabbingly media sexy as Klingon. At least not yet. ;-)

July 8, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

To be honest I'm quite suprised that some of the comments have already included Finnish in them! I know Finnish is one of the hardest languages out there and that's why I would like to offer some help for you guys. So, if anyone of you wants to ask me anything related to Finnish, feel free to give me your Skype username (I don't use Facebook) and I will add you to my friends. This is because I can't remember my own username... x)

July 7, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/J.D.Eckstrom

A question to you and the public at large: until Finnish is offered on Duolingo, do you know of other good resources? It isn't one of the most widely available options when I've searched online...

July 9, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Viltsu10

As a Finn I don't have much experience in learning Finnish using internet. x) I have still heard that some people have been using Mondly and Memrise to learn the vocabulary. And just a tip for Mondly, you can get a premium version for free by using redeem code "Mondly" ;) Happy studying!

July 9, 2015

https://www.duolingo.com/Vstig

Thanks again you legend

July 9, 2015
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