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Esperanto "u" vs. "ŭ"

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Hi, I have a question about the two Esperanto "u".

Is there a difference between "u" and "ŭ" in pronunciation? Or is it simply to differentiate certain special words (ankaŭ, aŭ, etc.)?

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Ontalor
Ontalor
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If it's regular u, it needs to be pronounced as its own syllable. ŭ is used to indicate that the sound blends with the previous vowel, so aŭ is "ow" instead of being "aa oo". That make sense? If it's regular u it has to be its own syllable.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mihxal
mihxal
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"ŭ" is a semivovel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semivowel) so is non-syllabic, "u" is a vowel thus is syllabic.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/truelefty
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I think that "ux" (u with the thing) is more like a "w"... but I'm not sure

By the way, is there a difference between jx and gx?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ferrum
ferrum
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ĵ is pronounced like the "s" in english "vision". ĝ is pronounced like the "j" in english "jeans".

If you know the cyrillic alphabet, ĵ = ж, ĝ = дж.

Edit: and ŝ = ш, ĉ = ч, ĥ = х.

3 years ago

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And sx? :S

PS: I know cyrillic, but I never got the ж right xD

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mihxal
mihxal
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Similar to "sh" in "shop"

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nihowdy

I was thinking it was actually more similar to 'zh' making it a harsher tone than 'sh'/'sx'

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mihxal
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But what? I wrote about Esperanto "ŝ".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nihowdy

Oh, I missed the comment before this. my bad o:

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/agradus
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As far as this post is about pronunciation - could you explain difference between "h" and "ĥ"?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ferrum
ferrum
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h is normal English 'h'.

ĥ sounds like the 'ch' in Scottish 'loch'. It sounds like saying English 'h' while gargling dry air in the back of your throat. We don't have this sound in English. But it is a very cool sound that gives a nice character to a word, and honestly it isn't hard to imitate once you've heard it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/agradus
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I am not native English speaker so it is hard for me to understand it that way. Do you mean that "h" is sort of "mild" while "ĥ " is sort of "heavy"?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ferrum
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https://www.duolingo.com/Luko.
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Which is your native language? If you know russian, the ĥ sounds like russian X AFAIK.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/agradus
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Thanks to all, I got it. My native language is Russian. So, h - is English "ha", ĥ is Russian "ha".

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BerberuEsperanto

ĝ = đ = џ (Српски, Македонски)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KateVinee
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Okay, my understanding--and I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong--is that u is an oo sound (as I assume you know already) and ŭ is a w sound, but it's primarily used in diphthongs. So antaŭ is not an-ta-u, three syllables, but an-taŭ (with the making an ow sound), two syllables. (Like so: http://www.forvo.com/word/anta%C5%AD/#eo )

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KateVinee
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...And here's a chart that shows more stuff about ŭ and diphthong pronunciations, by the way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_phonology#Orthography_and_pronunciation

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ferrum
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That's correct.

3 years ago