https://www.duolingo.com/seacc3

I'm NO WHERE NEAR finishing my tree.

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Learning another language has been on my list for 20 years. So I started Duolingo Spanish last July thinking I'd knock it out in a month or so. Hahahaha.....yeah, that is NOT gonna happen. I think I'd have gone faster if I were younger. I'm barely at 50%. But....I don't give up easy.

3 years ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Andrealphus
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I love this. This is so much cooler than all of the "FINISHED MY TREE!"

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LorenzoCabrini

Don't worry about it. People rush too much anyway and usually end up learning just about not a darned thing. Just enjoy the ride and learn as you do so. Have fun!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/seacc3
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Haha. Good advice. And, you have about 40 languages under your belt!!!!!!!!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LorenzoCabrini

I've spent most of my life learning languages, and I'm in my mid-forties. So don't compare yourself with me or anybody else for that matter. Are you having fun learning? Do you know more Spanish now than you did a year ago? That's all that matters. To tell you the truth, even if your Spanish wouldn't have improved much, but you are having a great time learning, I'd still say that that means it is time well spent!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/F572D297

"don't compare yourself" and "have fun", nothing much to add . Except maybe that people tend to make the language learning process like a "terminal cancer matter" and you have to be "fluenter" than a native speaker in 6 months or you'll die in shame and solitude. The cancer example it's a bit extreme, but the point (to me) is the same.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LorenzoCabrini

Good one there! I have always wondered why people are so hung up on fluency and especially "sounding like a native"? Why is that so important? If you are not a native, you are not. The importance of language is communication, so it is important to speak in such a way as to be undersood. But beyond that, I'm not going to waste my time on nitpicking about whether or not my Spanish "g" sounds exactly like that of somebody who was born and raised with the language.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/beadspitter

" I have always wondered why people are so hung up on fluency and especially "sounding like a native"? Why is that so important?"

I know why it's important to me. I'm training to be a licensed mental health counselor, and I want to be able to offer services to Spanish-speakers in Spanish. When people are talking to a counselor, they should be able to feel really comfortable with communication, not watching what they say or how they say it, because the subject matter (personal struggles, private emotions) is already difficult enough to express without the added burden of trying to bring someone who doesn't fully understand the language up to speed. Moreover, the counselor needs to be sensitive to nuance, to nonverbals, to what normally would be said and isn't being said, to the pressures of culture and how a client is interacting with them - all of which take more than language, but start with language.

I don't think most other people have my reasons for wanting to be fluent, but I assume they have their own.

On the other hand, I have nothing but respect for anyone who has the self-awareness to know that they don't feel a need for like-native-speaker fluency, and don't beat themselves up trying to attain it. There are as many ways of learning as there are students, or there should be.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Objectivist
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As for me, I'm a perfectionist, and I'd rather speak 3-4 languages near-native level than 10 at a mediocre level.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LorenzoCabrini

@beadspitter: yes, you have specific reasons for needing to be clearly understood. I have no problem with that. You are guided by your specific requirements.

@Objectivist: yes, you probably represent a different mindset than I do. I have more-or-less achieved fluency in 6 languages, in addition to my native Italian. And this really only happened because of my circumstances growing up. I lived in an environment where I had to use several different languages.

But fluency is not such a big thing for me. I'm more interested in comparative language studies, contrasting and comparing syntax, vocabulary, etc., as well as how these languages change over time.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/whatsajocy
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Love your view on it. I find it hard to not be nitpicky about pronunciation, but this reminds me to go with the flow and "enjoy the ride" while I focus on actual comprehension and grammar and all, without being impatient and comparing to others. Either way, I'm still having fun in the meantime so that's good! lol

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mattjking
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No rush. Be like the tortoise, not the hare, and you'll get there. I got stuck around the middle of my tree, and took a break, and studied Spanish some other ways. When I came back I blasted through the rest of the tree. Keep doing whatever works for you.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Wafinator
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It's okay! I've been doing this for a year and I'm almost close to 50%

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KristenDQ
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Me too and I'm at 47% fluency

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chenanigans

Me three! But in my defense I hadn't been on for a few months so my progress kind of stagnated, but apparently if you don't do any activity for months they set back your percentage of fluency and you lose orange competion status....I came and had to do many of them over to get all my bars back and gain my percentage back.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elizabeth261736

If you are truly interested in Spanish and are determined to learn it, it will come with time and continued effort. No one learns a language well in one month, and a year isn't all that much time. I'm in my 50s and expect to be learning Spanish for the rest of my life.

I don't know that it matters how quickly you go through the tree. It's not a measure of how well you are learning the language at all. Some people go through the tree very slowly, and repeat the same lessons until they are confident of the material, then move on to the next skills. Others already have prior knowledge of a language, and are therefore able to test out of much of the tree. Some people have a lot more time to spend on Duolingo every day. Others have other responsibilities and are not always able to spend as much time as they would like.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabzerbinatoEng
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Well, Daniel Tammet has learnt Icelandic in a week. But of course, for regular learners like us, languages require many years of dedication.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward
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I will probably finish my French tree this week, after 15 months of fairly consistent work (and like you I think it might have gone faster a decade or three earlier). Languages are learned in years, though - not months or weeks. Good job sticking with it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MrMultilingual5
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¡Hey Regards from Colombia! Hi, I'm Danny, I am a boy Colombian, 14 years, a spanish native speaker :). ¡LOL!, The speakers English, always want to be fluent in Spanish, and The speakers Spanish (Me/Us) always want to be fluent in English. I always think so about the languages, and Including myself there. I know You can make it! ¡Sé que lo puedes Hacer :)! Sorry for my english, I am a beginer in it, ¡Hey if you want, try to practice traslating my comment; But I also will put the translation into Spanish ok :). Regards, Danny. Translation¬ ¡Hey Saludos desde Colombia! Hola, Soy Danny, un chico Colombiano, de 14 años de edad, un hablante nativo de español :). ¡Hahaha!, Los hablantes del Inglés, siempre quieren ser fluentes en el Español, y Los Hablantes del Español (Yo/nosotros) queremos ser fluentes en el Inglés. Yo siempre pienso así acerca de los Idiomas, e incluyendome a mi mismo allí. ¡Sé que lo puedes hacer :)! Perdón por mi Inglés, Soy un principiante en ello. ¡Bye bye take care :), Danny!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Batrachophile

I finished my Spanish tree this morning. It took me roughly 5 months learning 2-3 lessons per day. I think they key thing is do make a habit of studying routinely. It doesn't have to be much, just something to keep it in your mind.

Next on my agenda? do my reverse tree and then move on to German.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Qadain
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Think of how long babies take to learn their first language, and they spend all their waking hours learning.

Compared to them, you aren't doing so badly, are you?

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lollygagger
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I find that Duolingo is a good language learning tool. It's a motivator, its fun and my Spanish learning and understanding has improved. I would regard myself as very functional in the language. However, where I am weakest is in the listening and understanding component . To further my fluency I go to you tube and find videos of Spanish/latin american cooking, for example and listen. You can access a lot of good listening that way and train your ear. Hope that might encourage and help someone out there.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LastChance_15

Nice! Well, I have been on here almost a year and I am only 31% fluent in Portuguese! But good luck!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabzerbinatoEng
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I don't trust the fluent percentage anymore, I finished my Portuguese tree and it doesn't reach 100% (as I expected).

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LastChance_15

I know right? I am on level 6 in Spanish and it says I am 33% percent fluent, when I can barely say anything! I think the fluency rating isn't accurate because it says how fluent you SHOULD be, instead of how fluent you ARE.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabzerbinatoEng
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I think these unbalanced percentages of fluency are mostly for motivation, at least it seems like that to me

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LastChance_15

That could be it!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/remoonline
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100% is difficult unless it's a course like Klingon which (I guess) would have a much limited vocabulary.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabzerbinatoEng
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Sure, the Duolingo course itself is not enough to become completely fluent at a language. And I agree, Klingon must have a very limited vocabulary, and I think people that speak it constantly make up new words.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/remoonline
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people that speak it constantly make up new words.

Actually, from what I have read, Klingonists are rather strict about language authority and prefer using words invented by Marc Okrand. Due to this limitation, sometimes they use rather innovative ways when communicating ideas for which no Klingon vocabulary exists at present.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gabzerbinatoEng
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That's interesting, one more reason for me to try out the Klingon course as soon as it's finished! Something also curious I found out (but about Esperanto) is that Esperanto-raised children ended up creating some new vocabulary for the language. And sorry for the mistake, I don't know much of Klingon xD

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nosaj10358
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What a great discussion here. Love it! It is not easy to learn a language. I'm saying that & I am only comfortable with my native language, English. I've put 3 years worth of classes into Spanish and completed my tree. I still am not fluent. However, I am getting better every month. As long as progress is being made, who cares what some "innaccurate fluency number" is anyway.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JasmineP.1

I am Puerto Rican, and as such have a good amount of family members who don't speak a lick of English. My Spanish is not great, and this has been a good start to brushing up, filling in the gaps, etc. I find one of the best ways to learn is doing both Duolingo lessons, as well as watching Hispanic TV shows and listening to Spanish music. Anything that will allow you to hear the actual language in action! Good luck, and remember, it's not a race. As others have stated, think about how long it takes for babies to master a language!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ins26
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Good luck! I'm at 51% in English

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/seacc3
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Thanks :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Emaan14

im 12 and ive been at duolingo for 1-2 months.. and past 50%

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kay_la_nina

This is my week 2. I'm at 15% fluency according to the Duolingo tracker. It's a very fun way to learn but I wish I have more time to dedicate to it.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Deepshikhaaaa

So many months and still just stuck at 36% and level 8. although i can understand quite a lot!Ii even started watching Gran Hotel

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArturoTorres11

Hang in there Popeye! We are all routing for you.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SeanaGraham
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50% is great. Keep going.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dancingtigga

I've been learning spanish now for 5 months, i get frustrated with how slow I learn and I have to remind myself that speed it not the goal, there is no set time frame, no exam at the end, just a continual move towards a better understanding. If you enjoy it, then you'll stick at beyond finishing the tree, that's what matters. Buena suerte!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Matt.91

I've been here for two years and I'm only half way done. It's not a race, I don't move on until I feel very confident using each section.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/el_guapo_fatyo

Chin up your not the lone ranger.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pname223155
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I don't give up much either. Been at it for a year and I still have about 5 units left. After that I am going to need to find a local college course I think. 2k words in a language are a start. The immersion feature is interesting, but it would be more so if the words involved stayed in your rotation. So when I am through with the units I'll stick around for a while to defend them but then I will need to move on.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Pratyush.
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It took 7 month for me to complete my Tree. It's not unusual to take time for the course.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/suespanishlesson

Stick at it, you'll get there!

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GabrielDayot
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I'm still not near at 50%. hahaha. But I don't care. x)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bertadee

I started Duolingo more than a year ago, and I'm at about 53%. That's okay! I'm enjoying the process, and learning a lot. I can definitely understand more Spanish today than I could a year ago. I get limited opportunity to speak it, but try to practice the pronunciation with the app on my phone.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CraigHilde

Most languages are hard to pick up that quickly. You could try Esperanto first it is easier. Plus learning Spanish or French after Esperanto makes it easier

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nosaj10358
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Is Esperanto a real language? I never heard of it until I saw it here. Is it just to help with other languages? How much easier is it...Way easier or just a little? Enlighten me please :)

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/YoungVVaver

Good luck, but you must not have been practicing every day. I spend 3 hours a day learning spanish (about 1 hour on Duo). I usually do 2-3, read the notes, flash cards and go into immersion. I've started in June and I'm at 50%.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kuman30

Well I finished the tree in just under two weeks technically, but most of the fine points didn't stick so I'm essentially going over a lot of it again. IMO it's just as important to pick up on listening to Spanish media. I started watching the Latin-America version of Breaking Bad- Metastasis. It's really helping me just as much as this site.

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nosaj10358
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Woow 2weeks eh? Did you already know Spanish & test out? I worked on the tree off and on for 10months, but out of that I had in about 3 solid months to finish the tree. I could have done it in 2months probably, but wanted to keep it golden the whole time. Either way, congrats to you! Very cool

3 years ago

https://www.duolingo.com/kuman30

I took my four years of Spanish in High school which was a decade ago. I just got really tired of wanting to be fluent in another language mixed with unemployment during the summer and spent everyday going to the library. But you can imagine the memory consolidation isn't great when you go that fast so I'm still doing 200+ xp every day in review. I would average 300 xp a day. 500 or so on days like Sunday. But I still can't keep up with a telenovela to save my life, so there's still plenty of work ahead!

3 years ago
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